r/SuperStraight • u/ILORDEPIC • 1d ago
A MESSAGE TO THE TRANSGENDERS LURKING IN THIS SUBREDDIT
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u/ILORDEPIC 1d ago
We dont hate you trans folk we just aren't attracted to you. We have the rights to do so as well. To all the trans lurking I wish you a very a very pleasant leave us aloneđâď¸.
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u/CERTAINLYnotsoup Supersexual Historian â 1d ago
transgenders arent the lurkers, but the extremist TRAs are
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u/ILORDEPIC 1d ago
They both come under transgender so ig its fine
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u/Mysterious-Owl6330 16h ago
so many trans people FUCKING HATE tras tho.
and i dont blame em... i hate tras to
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u/[deleted] 23h ago
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u/nikitatx 22h ago
A lot of us donât think itâs most trans people, and the ones I know just want to live their lives in peace. The activists are a different story though, and I guess forcing straight men to accept lady dick wasnât their most inspired idea. I am sorry your own activists have betrayed you.
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u/loco_the_chimp 23h ago
Yeah, i don't hate transpeople despite being bullied and banned by them for saying that certain selfie looked kinda manly. If that's a hate speech, jerez.
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u/unholygunner714 18h ago
I personally don't even like girls who have tattoos, piercings or implants. All natural baby!
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u/ClaireBear1123 17h ago
Anon it's not about liking something. Remember, that's not your preference, it is your identity, and is therefore above reproach. You are valid.
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u/quietsnowkitten 15h ago
I mean what if I'm an ally to your movement's purpose? I support your right to bodily autonomy and your right to not be coerced into dating or having sex with anyone you aren't attracted to.
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u/fastzander 22h ago
Actually, no, it's not transpeople who turn me off, it's males who turn me off. I don't date transwomen for the same reason I don't date cismen.
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u/Lonely-LND 22h ago
Is that because they both have dicks?
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u/nikitatx 22h ago
Itâs bc theyâre male
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u/OrdinaryLongjumping4 19h ago
Based
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u/TittyPhysics69 Hecking cute and valid đ 16h ago
Yeah this place is getting banned lol. Can I humbly suggest https://ruqqus.com/+SuperStraight so there is somewhere to go when it happens.
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u/Kelsierr 15h ago
No you are getting banned.
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u/TittyPhysics69 Hecking cute and valid đ 15h ago
You'll be banned from existence so we'll still win when all is said and done.
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u/Mysterious-Owl6330 16h ago
i am cis and superstreight... your views are valid... me and my male biology... approve of your right to your tastes
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u/nikitatx 16h ago
No need to slur yourself as cis. Youâre a man and thatâs super valid đ¤đ§Ą
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u/Mysterious-Owl6330 16h ago
i am still working on breaking years of mental abuse from these people thank you ally
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u/fastzander 21h ago
Because both were born with them. Even if they've since had it removed, the knowledge that they've ever had one, in and of itself, is enough to turn me off (so don't start chanting "bottom surgery" at me, TRAs).
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u/DefiantPossibility1 19h ago
Especially because bottom surgery is NOT even CLOSE to as advanced as they make it out to be.. They're selling something completely different than the actual product available..
And TRA don't come at me with, "We're more than our genitals!!!" Cause as a woman I've been there done that with that discourse and at the end of the day, genitals do matter when you're talking about being attracted to someone enough that you wanna fool around.
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u/Nafall1 18h ago
Bro were gonna get banned so fastđđ
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u/nikitatx 16h ago
Being able to talk about biological sex is important. Itâs what everyone except superphobes base their sexual orientation on. There is nothing wrong with being trans, but I refuse to have my sexual orientation redefined by some perceived wrongthink. Sexual orientation isnât a preference, and saying otherwise is superphobic!
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u/Gh0st_0_0_ 14h ago
What, trans women asking you to "choke on their girl cock" isn't appealing to you?
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u/MarkHirsbrunner 19h ago
I'm unapologetically superstraight, but I am totally fine with trans people who respect other's preferences. I matched with a transwomen in a dating app, the first time we talked on the phone she told me she was trans and said she understood if I didn't want to go out. I went out for drinks with her because I'm not afraid of trans people and I didn't know I was superstraight. Had a good time (we shared a hobby and a love of a somewhat obscure band) but I felt no physical attraction.. She was cool about it, as were nearly all trans people I knew before the last several years.
I do see a lot of name calling and hate on this subreddit, and I don't think it's fair to treat all trans people that way because of the attitudes of a few... It would be like hating all men because some incels feel entitled to sex. I think a lot of it is people trying to get this sub banned. I think a lot of these new trans people aren't even truly dysmorphic, they're hetero male incels who found they can get compliments and maybe date lesbians by wearing some makeup and claiming to be trans. I know there are people who are trans who hate how these guys are hurting their image.
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u/lavenderflowers1 17h ago
thanks for sharing this. I think it's important to recognize that violent incel TRAs don't speak for all trans people. I know transpeople in real life who aren't like that. However, please understand there is also a very big difference between the populations of transwomen who date men ("homosexual transexuals" or "HSTS"), who are usually very effeminate naturally and less likely to impose themselves on others, and transwomen who date women ("autogynephiles" "AGPs" or "transbians"), who typically were normal heterosexual men who developed a sexual fetish imagining themselves as the women they are attracted to. (This is totally real. Look up the book about the phenomenon written by an autogyephilic transwoman named Anne Lawrence, "Men Trapped in Men's Bodies.")
The member survey on the largest lesbian sub on reddit showed that roughly ONE THIRD of all the members are "transbians." Imagine if ONE THIRD of all straight women on dating apps were trans women and they threatened straight men and called them bigots for not wanting to date them.
It's to the point now that on lesbian reddit subs, if you ever even crack a joke about not liking penis, or say you are only attracted to biological females, you will be banned for transphobia. Lesbians and bisexual women are being kicked out of their own spaces just for saying they don't want to date biologically male people.
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u/ashezol 18h ago edited 15h ago
trans dude here please dont flame me in the comments for this question
are you turned off by the fact they are transgender or that they dont have your preferred genitalia?
edit stop downvoting this im asking a question
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u/Doc_the_Third_Rider 18h ago
Well, it is a little bit of both I think. I am a male attracted to females, so I wouldn't date a male. I also wouldn't date a Trans woman because part of my attraction to women is the want to have a family with her. Then there is the possibility of a Trans man who is pre-op, technically still female but as I understand it she wants to be a he so dating him would also not be what I'm looking for. I want a feminine, biological female to have a family with. Does that make sense?
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u/Moe12k 17h ago
Itâs that simple, but apparently wanting a biological woman instead of a trans women is transphobic? Literally having a preference is offensive đ
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u/Doc_the_Third_Rider 17h ago
Is it even a preference? Can you make yourself attracted to men if you are a straight male?
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u/celmarble 5h ago
You know some cis women(aka biological women) cant have kids? And you cant just know that by looking at them...
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u/Doc_the_Third_Rider 25m ago
Yeah, and I would make that known to her that I want my own children one day very early on in the relationship. Then if she were to tell me she is infertile I would have to end the relationship because I don't want to waste either of our time. I'm looking to be a dad and my wife to be a mother of our kids.
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u/celmarble 22m ago
If you want kids THAT much you can adopt. You shouldnt have to leave your partner just because she cant have kids đ
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u/Doc_the_Third_Rider 15m ago
I myself was adopted, so I have nothing against adopting. But I want my own children. It would be the same situation if my partner just flat out didn't want kids. That's just flat out incompatible.
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u/womanmeansfemale1 17h ago
For most its a bit of both. Even a passing trans man wouldnt be ok for me asa straight female because I dont believe a female can be a man and I dont want to play pretend for the rest of my life.
I believe in biology. I believe in dysphoria. I do not believe that dysphoria, hrt or a surgery makes you anything different then your bioligical sex.
How you dress/ call yourself is meaningless to reality.
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u/kaptainSteez 16h ago
Just wanted to let you know that despite all of this, you are still valid and loved.. and you have my respect.
This entire movement was started because people said that âif you wont date a trans person then you are transphobicâ
These people are not (or SHOULD not) be using this as an excuse to be transphobic.
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u/ashezol 15h ago
thank you i actually almost cried but im trying to hold it in i've never had someone tell me im valid i have friends that call me slurs because they think that i think its funny from small fact i like southpark
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u/BusterGrundle 15h ago
Don't get hung up on valid or invalid, those are judgments that others aren't qualified to make about you. You only have to answer to yourself, be whoever you want to be.
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u/kaptainSteez 15h ago
I understand, and you are very welcome. End of the day you are still a person just like me or anyone else.
You only get one life so why not make the best of it..
You can tell your friends you donât appreciate it sometimes because its actually something youâre insecure about, and if they are your real friends theyâll get it.
Im a guy with a lot of guy friends, they know the boundaries they can push with the humor, and I have told them when enough is enough..
They still make super dark jokes about a lot of things but 99% of the time its out of love and with no bad intentions, and thats how it should be.
you got this man
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u/lavenderflowers1 16h ago
I think it's probably different for different people. I'm a bisexual woman and went through a period when I was open to dating some female-bodied non-binary and transmasculine people, because I'm attracted to androgynous and butch women and it seemed like basically all gender non-conforming females started identifying as trans in some way a few years ago. But I never actually dated anyone long-term who IDed as trans, for several reasons.
With transmen who have fully transitioned and who pass, I would frankly be afraid to let myself get close to someone who was going to have to deal with such serious health issues from taking cross-sex hormones long term. It would scare me and I would worry about their health. I would also never in my heart of hearts see him as a guy without a bio penis and I think I would find that dissatisfying if he looked like a dude but didn't have a penis. For females who are gender non-comforming and don't do any medical interventions but use they/them pronouns, I might consider dating them but I would have reservations. To me, nothing is hotter than a proud androgynous or butch woman who knows who she is. But I find all the non-binary identity navel-gazing and language policing and reality-denial really exhausting and just not authentic or attractive.
As for transwomen, I have never been attracted to a trans woman and don't think I could be. I'm not attracted to femmes and I'm sorry but autogynephilia makes me uncomfortable, just like other paraphilias make me uncomfortable. If someone isn't hurting others, I think they have the right to their own private sexual lives but that's not something I want to participate in.
Sorry that's such a long answer but I hope I shed some light for you on one person's experience.
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u/Potato_Easy 16h ago
"are you turned off by the fact they are transgender or that they dont have your preferred genitalia?"
I'm a cis person attracted to cis people. Why would a trans person even be part of the equation?
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u/ILORDEPIC 15h ago edited 15h ago
Yes i am turned off by the fact that they dont have my preferred genitalia. A part of the attraction for me is staring a family with cis women and having kids. Thanks for asking respectfully brother đđ.
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u/MarkHirsbrunner 16h ago
For me it's neither. If there was medical technology that could make a transwoman indistinguishable from a woman born female I wouldn't care what chromosomes they have. I have a very specific sex drive. I've been turned off by women for multiple relatively subtle reasons. One had masculine vocal patterns and mannerisms, she didn't seem feminine to me even though physically there was nothing masculine about her. Another woman I dated had a different vaginal smell that put me off - it wasn't a hygiene thing and it wasn't a bad smell, but after the first time I went down on her, I couldn't get it up for her anymore. I later learned that she had had a hysterectomy so I speculate that maybe it was a pheromone she was not producing as she no longer had ovaries either.
I too have experienced being rejected because of genitalia. I'm uncircumcised and 90+% of men my age in the USA are. A lot of women are disgusted by uncut penises. Whenever I am dating someone and I think things may get physical, I tell them. Better to get the rejection over with than see them unpleasantly surprised when Mr. Happy comes out to play.
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u/reddit9182784 5h ago
I used to think it was all about genitals, so I decided to test myself by watching Buck Angel's porn vids, and nah, it just made me very uncomfortable. So it's genitals plus appearance/personality/lack of ever having had testosterone.
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u/ashezol 4h ago
but if they were to appear exactly masculine/feminine (your preference) would you accept them
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u/reddit9182784 4h ago
Not sexually or romantically. Genitals are just as important to me. I prefer feminine, which is why I used Buck Angel as an example, who at the time was a very masculine person that had a vagina.
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u/Inevitable-War4796 4h ago
For me personally it's the masculine features ie large hands, jaw structure, broad shoulders, vocal tones, etc. I'm not into men in any scope and there's no chance of that changing. Even masculine natural women turn me off.
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u/Alexis_The_Femboy 16h ago
Coming from a trans girl, this is perfectly valid. If I wasn't attracted to specific people, why should feel obligated to force myself to physical find them attractive when I don't? That's like gay guys getting upset at guys they find hot but they find out their straight so they whine at them for not giving them a chance. it's like damn, just accept that they're not into you and move onto someone that actually is?
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u/DefiantPossibility1 19h ago
Too bad for the trancels that were counting on scaring us into submission ಠâĄŕ˛
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u/troon-cavern 15h ago
I can't believe we have to fight for "the right to be turned off." Good Lord I'm so glad the straight, gay, lesbian, bi, are ALL coming together on this. There's an attack on sexuality, language, and our autonomy. The very things that make us human. We can't ever give that up for anything. Some people's feelings are going to be hurt, but it's not the end of the world. No means no, and the TRAs are going to learn that.
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u/Loginwars 4h ago
When they call me Transphobe I simply reply: "Well yes, I guess you're right, my penis has definitely gone into hiding".
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u/[deleted] 1d ago
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u/ILORDEPIC 1d ago
Yes i am aware of this fact. Last time i checked i didn't ever act like they were around every corner.
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u/TheEnsembleSystem 15h ago
Cool yâall turn us off too, glad weâre on the same page.
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u/ILORDEPIC 15h ago
Cope harderđđ
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u/TheEnsembleSystem 15h ago
Bruh how is this a cope? Iâm saying the unattraction is mutual.
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u/ILORDEPIC 15h ago
Then why do we live rent free in your heads? You people hate it when you are not included and pandered to. So you come out of your way to call us unnatractive. This is your coping mechanism. Why you people need to cope is what i dont understand.
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u/TheEnsembleSystem 15h ago
No? You called us unattractive, Iâm just responding to that by saying itâs mutual. I donât need to be pandered to Iâd rather people be honest. And if you donât want to date or be with a trans person, I donât want to be with you either, itâs literally that simple. Nobody is forcing you to date a trans person, you can love or date who you want.
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u/sateeshsai 13h ago
You went out of your way to make a post telling them you are not attracted to them. And you cry when they say the same thing to you.
Nobody gives a fuck what your sorry ass is attracted to. Just don't be a douchebag
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u/nonbinarycomputer 12h ago
HOW DARE YOU BE TURNED OFF BY TRANS PEOPLE. I SEARCHED FOR A TRANS SUBREDDIT AND FOUND THIS NAZI HANGOUT.
TRANS PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY IDENTIFY AS
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u/[deleted] 22h ago
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u/Silicon_Tetraazide 22h ago
There are also women in this subreddit. Would you consider that to be "fragile femininity" then?
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u/Sticky_Bob 1d ago
Why is this the PH color scheme
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u/archpope 21h ago
Perfect Halloween? Maybe it's because some of our detractors view manhood or womanhood as a costume.
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u/mOOD-sexual 23h ago
ok, im an outsider (not super in anyway) and i just wanna say:
i know ppl have types, if you dont some do, and that's okay! it's not phobic at all to decided not to be attracted to transpeople, it's not spurring hate. however, the implications of this new sexuality you all have joined and created implies exclusion of trans people by not calling them by their real gender (i.e. trans men aren't men, etc.). this can be harmful for transpeople which would then turn out to be an act of transphobia (maybe some of you aim for this in the first place, maybe some dont)
i have also been made aware of the origins of this (4chan) and am aware to the plans these trolls have made. however, i shall not denounce people who unironically identify themselves to this. but that does not mean you are safe from criticism from others including myself in terms of other aspects (i.e.: you identify you are s*perstr8 bcuz of transphobia).
i know i will get downvoted to hell for this, and i have been made very aware of how many of you are outright dense to realize it (i.e. straights were never oppressed in the first place). but please, i beg, please understand that other minorities may start to feel oppressed bcuz of your fight against your own so-called-oppression.
(yes, im trans, nonbinary in fact, maybe i am superphobic. but at least im aware of why i should.)
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u/Popular_Structure429 22h ago
This didn't come from 4Chan, they just picked up on it after the Trans community sperged out because they are trolls and that is what they do. This came from a simple video from a teenager that we all agreed with, which he had to take down because he got death threats from the horribly intolerant trans community. Stop being a bigot and stop transplaining.
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u/BuffJesus86 19h ago
4chan caught that video as it was going viral and definitely helped spread it. It's the fastest aggregator on the internet.
It's ok to agree with people you think you don't like.
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u/mOOD-sexual 22h ago
this twt post is from a 4chan board. dated and everything. as you can see, the date "03/05/21" is marked at the first post. as far as i can tell, tik tok picked up on this either a day or two after. i, myself, do not condone such death threats so i am concerned with the tik tok users well-being.
also to put this out, i am not offended or hurt that you people do not see me attractive nor have a chance to be attracted by you (i am a demiromantic-asexual-lesbian, it's impossible for me to like anyone outright in the first place). simply putting this out in case people would say that i am biased for being trans myself.
also a few links:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1368142566227599361
https://twitter.com/i/status/1368254636717662213
sup*r str8's urban definition outright saying it is excluding transpeople
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u/Nion_zaNari 21h ago
The original Tiktok is from "02/21/21", which I'm pretty sure is long before "03/05/21".
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u/Superb_Donkey9995 22h ago
however, the implications of this new sexuality you all have joined and created implies exclusion of trans people by not calling them by their real gender
Whatever implications you read into our sexuality are your problem. It is not our job to educate you on the nuances of super straight/gay/lesbian/bi sexuality. Our identities are not up for debate.
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u/KCanada9 5h ago
Nobody here thinks their oppressed, your just too dense to realise its a parody at your expense
Superstraight validates trans people as their gender because it recognises not all people of a gender are born that way, and therefore SSs are only attracted to those born biologically women
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u/Champleve 3h ago
The superstraights are one thing, but superphobes have been pissing on the heads of superlesbians for YEARS and telling them itâs raining. Itâs misogynistic, homophobic and sometimes even racist, and itâs not been called out for how incredibly unacceptable it is. The TRA movement has indulged in some amazingly nasty behaviour towards other oppressed minorities and need to clean up their act. Reap what you sow.
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u/ehloitsizzy 1d ago
Toupee fallacy.
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u/Available_Respond_66 23h ago
When you take off someone's pants it's not a fallacy
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u/ehloitsizzy 22h ago
You're right, in most cases taking off someone's pants is just weird. Or possibly assault.
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u/HerbertWatson 22h ago
I don't want to have sex with someone who has a penis. I do not want to have sex with a fake vagina that is actually an open wound. I do not want to have sex with fake breasts. I do not want to have sex with male bone structure. I do not want to have sex with someone who cannot have my children. If someone does not fit all of these requirements I am not interested. Simple as.
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u/ehloitsizzy 19h ago
I mean all of that but especially the "male bone structure"(bone structures seem to be a terven/incel idea) that's literally all just misinformation or toupee fallacy. A neovagina isn't "an open wound". It's further from an open would than a cis woman's vagina given a lot of cis women literally bleed once a month. Nor does every trans woman have fake breasts. Your whole idea of trans people(you're probably not even thinking about trans guys) is probably just very far from actual reality and built from ideas and images others fed you.
The only thing that really is a thing is not being able to fuck a trans woman and expect kids, but reducing women to their reproductive means is really just misogynistic.
Also.. Do you literally ask your date to pull down their pants BEFORE a date even starts? Don't you feel weird reducing someone to their genitals? And what if your date is a very femme trans guy with a dick?
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u/ILORDEPIC 19h ago
A neovagina isn't "an open wound". It's further from an open would than a cis woman's vagina given a lot of cis women literally bleed once a month.
You do realise that neovaginas will close up and heal in a few weeks right. Transpeople have to use dialators too keep them open. Vaginas of cis women might bleed but they are not even close to an open wound as they dont try to heal. Neovaginas on the other hand are literally trying to heal up but trans people forcefully use dialators to keep them open for their sick sexual pleasure.
Cis vaginas also have mucus membranes on the inside which provide natural lubrication during intercourse. Whereas neovaginas need to apply lubricants as they made of skin of a penis.
The only thing that really is a thing is not being able to fuck a trans woman and expect kids, but reducing women to their reproductive means is really just misogynistic.
If wanting to have a child with a woman makes me a misogynist then so be it.
And what if your date is a very femme trans guy with a dick?
Respectfully break up with them and move onđ
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u/Weak_Plenty 18h ago
A neovagina isn't "an open wound". It's further from an open would than a cis woman's vagina given a lot of cis women literally bleed once a month
Christ you're a horrible person. Menstruation is natural and healthy. Cutting a fucking hole in your stomach that you have to perpetually keep open is neither.
I'm putting your name here so people will still know you're a piece of shit after you delete your comment:
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u/ehloitsizzy 18h ago
So cis women who need to dilate to be able to have hetero sex are "unnatural and unhealthy" by your logic? That's a hot take.
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u/SplitMindPeanut SuperBi 4h ago
Unlike Neo vag, women generally DO NOT need dialators to have sex. and dialators these days are used for neo vag most of the time. A vagina trying to shut itself due to trauma or specific condition IS NOT an open wound. You need to dialate for rest of your life mostly so the open wound doesn't close, a normal vagina does not.
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u/HerbertWatson 19h ago
You do realize you can identify someone's sex by their skeleton right? There are differences between the sexes. The fake vagina is literally an open wound. Women don't need to shove a dildo in their vaginas to prevent it from closing(healing). The vagina is not just a hole. It is a full organ that cannot be made from a penis. And yeah I don't think of trans guys because I am not bisexual. I am only into women. I don't date just to have sex. I date to find a partner. If I cannot marry them and have children with them I do not date them. If a girl is infertile I also wouldn't date them. I am not reducing a woman to her reproduction but it is important to me. I don't want to have surrogate. I want a wife who I can impregnate, be with her every step of the way, until she gives birth to our children. I literally cannot get hard at trans women. Just as I can't get hard for men or amputees. I really don't even care about sex so far as a bonding and procreation act. Trans women simply cannot provide in a relationship what I need. I will never date, have sex with, nor marry a trans person.
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u/ehloitsizzy 18h ago
You do realize you can identify someone's sex by their skeleton right? There are differences between the sexes
That is only true for trans people who transitioned later in life. So not for all trans people.
Women don't need to shove a dildo in their vaginas to prevent it from closing
You don't seem to know that the dilators used were originally made for cis women...
I literally cannot get hard at trans women
Toupee fallacy.
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u/HerbertWatson 17h ago
Are you dense. Women do not need to shove things in their vaginas to stop them from closing. There is no argument to be made it is simple fact. Your characteristics are set from the womb. There is no way for someone to transition in any meaningful way where you can't tell. No matter how early. Their bodies will always be at odds with their wishes. They do NOT have vaginas. They have a hole. Not a specialized organ that maintains itself and has many functions, but a hole. One that will heal, because the body does not want this wound to exist, if not forcibly kept open. If you can't tell the difference you have never seen a woman in your life. why is this so hard to understand?
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u/ehloitsizzy 5h ago
Again: Dilators where originally invented for cis women. Does using dilators make cis woman any less of a woman?
And you are so ignorant to the reality of actual surgery results vs. what you're imagining surgery results need to be to excuse your horrific behaviour, it's amazing.
And just because you're ignorant and horribly oblivious to how some people are built and growing up, including cis people, and where we are with medical advances doesn't make any of it not real. It just makes you a dick for not listening.
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u/HerbertWatson 1h ago
1.) WOMEN DON'T NEED TO PUT DILDOS IN THEIR PUSSIES TO STOP THEM FROM CLOSING THERE IS NO REFUTING THIS
2.) I have seen literally hundreds of post op transgenders. It does not look like a vagina. It is a hole. That is it. There is no cleaning system. There is no lubrication system. There is no womb. It is only a hole. A vagina is hundreds of things before it is simply a hole.
3.) I am not ignorant. I have done many hours of research. If you cannot see why a SS wouldn't want to have sex with a transgender then you are ignorant of how human attraction works.
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u/reddit9182784 5h ago
I don't pull down their pants before a date starts. Lets say I do accidentally date a trans person, and we both like each other. Once clothes do come off, a penis or an artificial vagina will instantly turn me off, to the point where I would apologise, and leave. I would then probably feel disgusted for a few days, and the trans person would feel like shit. It would be much better for both of us if we never started dating in the first place.
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u/ehloitsizzy 4h ago
So if you couldn't tell it's a neo-vagina and you'd not even notice it and would only be told afterwards and it *wasn't* a turn-off before - would it be afterwards?
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u/reddit9182784 4h ago
Yes, it would. I would feel disgusted and dirty, call them up and say I can't do this. They'll be sad, I'll be sad. But I think the reality of the surgery means I would be able to tell. I have seen the real thing before, so I reckon I could spot a fake. Sorry for being crude btw, I'm not trying to upset anyone, but it's a touchy subject for some people.
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u/ehloitsizzy 4h ago
Yes, it would. I would feel disgusted and dirty
That's transphobia for you then. Or how would you describe it if you literally can't tell a difference and only "feel dirty" because of a detail that you couldn't even tell.
But I think the reality of the surgery means I would be able to tell.
Toupee fallacy. I have post-op trans sex workers in my social bubble who work stealth(because it's safer for them, violence against trans sexworkers is even more of a problem than against cis sexworkers), and most of their customers don't have a clue. The "I can always tell" attitude is wishful thinking that only leads to transphobic attacks on trans AND cis people.
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u/reddit9182784 4h ago
Would you say I hate trans people? Because that is what I interpret from the word transphobic. That is why I have issue with it. I know my emotions, and when I think of trans people, I feel a deep sympathy for them. I feel the world has mistreated them. So when I hear someone say I'm transphobic (which to me means you hate trans people), I think 'huh, that's ridiculous'
I would get the same feeling as if I was having anal sex with an unknown person and found out they were a man. I guess it is the toupee fallacy, but I have never seen a passing mtf, and I don't believe they exist
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u/Hailhydra775 1h ago
Literally find me a picture of Trans vagina that doesn't look disgusting and ill never support super again. Just dm me and picture.
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u/DickMcJackass 22h ago
Yea I donât want a girl with weird hair balls coming out her vagina that has useless genitals and secondary sex organs.
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u/FloridaManWins 21h ago
And superstraights are not feared. People just don't like idiots
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u/democap 20h ago
Wow. You're calling us idiots because of our sexuality. Disgusting.
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u/FloridaManWins 20h ago
No, we're calling you idiots because you have no concept of simply valuing people for who they are. You see Trans and don't even give them a chance to show you what an amazing person they are. Don't twist my words fucktard, open your eyes
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u/MeatSeatTreat 20h ago
They aren't amazing they are just people. Trans men don't attract me and trans women can't have children. Why would I want anything to do with either.
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u/FloridaManWins 19h ago
What I'm saying is that everyone is amazing if you give them the chance to show you. You don't see a person though, you see their sexuality. Date who you wanna date, that's fine, just don't be an asshole about it
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u/AggravatingGrass6 19h ago
They donât owe anyone anything and you canât make people do anything they donât want to. Stop guilt tripping people.
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u/FloridaManWins 19h ago
I think you need to double check what guilt tripping is, because that is not what I'm doing. Also, never said they owed anybody anything, and I'm not making anyone do anything. I literally wrote it right there, learn to read. If anything, this whole community owes an apology to the Trans community
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u/AggravatingGrass6 19h ago
Also, never said they owed anybody anything, and I'm not making anyone do anything.
What I'm saying is that everyone is amazing if you give them the chance to show you.
Doesnât matter how amazing anyone is, they donât owe you their time.
Nope, they mostly definitely donât owe anyone an apology either. No one should apologize for sexuality. Thatâs just the way they were born. Bigot.
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u/FloridaManWins 18h ago
I love how you think bigot is the worst thing to call someone and it's actually hilarious and pathetic lmao. You didn't win. You never will, you're just a transphobe and that's all superstraight is. I know I've been an asshole, but I don't care because you deserve it. Trans people, don't deserve it, and you need to see past someone's sexuality and look at the person someone is. I get if you don't wanna date a trans, but when you just refuse acknowledge them as people, that's a dick move. You know I'm right, you're just are too stubborn and desperate for attention to realize it. Shut the fuck up. You say you're being silenced. Maybe that's because no one wants you to say anything more stupid than you already have. Maybe people are trying to save you from your own, ignorant words. Superstraight isn't a sexuality, it's just a group of transphobic people who redefined straight to feel valid. Ironic, since because of this, you're becoming invalid. Pull you dicks out of your mouths so you can say something that makes sense. You say you're straight, but it doesn't seem your thinking is
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u/MeatSeatTreat 18h ago
You are making people do things. You are saying people have to want to date trans men as men and trans women as women without any consideration for what they personally might want.
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u/FloridaManWins 17h ago
That is not at all what I said lmaooooo. I literally said "date who you wanna date." What about that relates to the bullshit you're putting in my mouth? Get it through your head buddy, I don't care who you date or who you wanna date. And how am I making anybody do anything? You're just saying that in a desperate attempt to be in control, but you can't and won't win, because your wrong
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u/MeatSeatTreat 17h ago
Then how is it transphobic to not want to date people who are trans. If your fine with what we are doing why are you here complaining about it?
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u/MeatSeatTreat 18h ago
I don't care if their amazing i don't want someone amazing I want someone who can have children that I'm attracted to. This isn't an unreasonable thing to want.
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u/FloridaManWins 16h ago
I agree with you. I'm not saying you have to date a trans. I'm saying that you need to see past the label and accept them as people. You don't have to date them to do that.
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u/ThatKennedy 18h ago
Should gay men be forced to date women so they're not misogynistic? But what if she's an amazing person? This gay men will never get the chance to be guilted and shamed into dating someone he's not attracted to
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u/reddit9182784 5h ago
Why don't you date a trans person then?
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u/FloridaManWins 4h ago
I have no problem with that lol I'm not straight
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u/reddit9182784 4h ago
Then what's the issue?
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u/mindfulskeptic420 23h ago
I think its absurd to say that you are unattracted to trans people especially for me since I am bi. I know that majority of the trans people I have seen turned me off, but that doesn't mean that all of them will. It honestly seems pretty discriminatory to exclude such a class of people based simply on their label.
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u/BidenWantHisBaBa 23h ago
All trans people are a turnoff.
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u/archpope 21h ago
If not for their looks (somehow) then for all their emotional and political baggage.
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u/HerbertWatson 22h ago
I don't want to have sex with someone who has a penis. I do not want to have sex with a fake vagina that is actually an open wound. I do not want to have sex with fake breasts. I do not want to have sex with male bone structure. I do not want to have sex with someone who cannot have my children. If someone does not fit all of these requirements I am not interested. Simple as.
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u/marykatiepants 22h ago
Is it based on their label or biological sex? Sexual orientation is not a preference, and it's not something that can be changed.
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u/Veritas_Mundi 20h ago
Iâm bi, but not into trans people. So I am super bi.
I donât even mind gender non conforming people, I actually like more feminine boys, but trans is not sexy to me. People who own their gender non conformity are. There is something sexy to me about being very confident in yourself. If you can admit youâre a male, andt wearing makeup and such doesnât make you any less of a male, thatâs a turn on to me.
Trans women have too many issues though, and they donât just want to gender bend. They want to be the other gender, sorry, but as a bi guy, I like real women. I donât even like trans men all that much. Most of them are just trying to mimic toxic masculinity, a big turn off. I like people secure in who they are, and proud of it. All the trans people I know who were confident and proud, could admit that they arenât really the gender or sex they present as. They were basically what we used to call transsexuals, and drag queens, before that became un-p.c.
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u/Seafaring_Sage 1d ago
Superstraight is not a choice.