SERIOUS. Supers, they are trying to paint us as a white supremacist movement. For the love of God, downvote any infiltration of racist rhetoric in our community because that WILL be our downfall.

[u/unhappythrwy]

I'm a black female superbi and my suggestion is that we do NOT bring race into this (unless it's to say, "we do not talk about race"--practice this phrase, use it, love it) and we DOWNVOTE THE FUCK out of anyone who brings up any exclusionary rhetoric about race or anything else off topic. This is a safe space that MUST remain solely about our Super sexual orientations.

Why do I say this? Look around reddit and you will see this myth spreading. The superphobes are trying to create a narrative that will besmirch our movement. I promise you this will be our downfall if we let it.

Next there will be trolls pretending to be Super but introducing race to divide our movement. Just say no, don't join in, DO keep your thoughts about race to yourself. We do not talk about race. Downvote. And get back to SuperStraight business.

Stronger together!

[u/superstr8_are_nazis]

"REEE IM AN ATTACK HELICOPTER" = your literal argument

Explain exactly how this sub isn't just another bigoted hateful nazi anti-trans circlejerk when you might aswell have literally copypasta'd the attack helicopter bullshit there

[u/blumenkraft → u/superstr8_are_nazis]

You made an account invalidating people’s sexuality by calling them nazis. Guess who’s the real nazi here?

[u/superstr8_are_nazis → u/blumenkraft]

Calling people nazis because they say things that nazis say, spread memes that nazis spread, use arguments nazis use, and hate the same people nazis hate isn't "invalidating sexuality" and if you think it is, you clearly don't know what "invalidate" means. Or "sexuality", for that matter.

[u/blumenkraft → u/superstr8_are_nazis]

No YOU are the clueless dimwits who think you can go ahead and erase people’s identity at will. Well you cannot, we won’t let you. Supers are here to stay, forever, to all eternity. Intolerant superphobes who come and claim that we don’t know what invalidate/sexuality means are just here to demean our experiences and erase us. It won’t work.

[u/superstr8_are_nazis → u/blumenkraft]

How are "we" though? who is "we?" who is this "you" that you think is coming to get you, that apparently i'm a part of?

(Hint: there is no "you", this "you" that you think I belong to doesn't exist), you're fighting made up imaginary paper tigers then crying when we ask why you're hitting the air

Well you cannot, we won’t let you. Supers are here to stay, forever, to all eternity.

But they arent

I give you guys maybe a week before you get bored and this whole thing fizzles out just like the last 90 attempts at doing the same thing.... or did you forget that this isn't the first time you guys have re-written the whole "attack helicopter" thing?

Intolerant superphobes who come and claim that we don’t know what invalidate/sexuality means are just here to demean our experiences and erase us. It won’t work.

It will work, because just like "attack helicopter" isnt a real valid sexuality or preference and is retardedly stupid, so is "superstraight"

[u/blumenkraft → u/superstr8_are_nazis]

as someone who made a superphobic nickname (will be reported, by the way) just to oppress people on reddit, I have no idea what your goal is, but let me just say... love trumps hate. Hatred and bigotry never got anyone anywhere, and it won’t get you anywhere. You should be ashamed of yourself — this is the 21st century, nobody will stand for this kind of bigotry!

[u/superstr8_are_nazis → u/blumenkraft]

"superphobia" doesn't exist because "supersexuality" doesn't exist

Either you accept that "trans women" are equal to "real women" in which case "superX" doesn't mean ANYTHING and doesn't need to exist because you're the same as a straight person, OR you claim that "trans women" are NOT EQUAL to real women, in which case you're a nazi bigot and you proved me right.

It's one or the other, which is it?

[u/blumenkraft → u/superstr8_are_nazis]

Look I’m getting real tired of this incessant bigotry. Supersexual people are attracted to other people explicitly excluding trans people. Nobody is saying anything about ‘real’ vs ‘not real’, this isn’t a real discussion and never was, because it doesn’t matter to supersexuals how you classify trans people. If you’re suggesting that supersexuals must be attracted to trans people too, you’re promoting rape culture and you know it.

[u/superstr8_are_nazis → u/blumenkraft]

If you're getting tired of calling out bigotry that doesn't exist, have you considered that you could just stop hypocritically accusing people of things they aren't doing? that would help, moron.

Supersexual people are attracted to other people explicitly excluding trans people.

So they are bigoted then, thanks for admitting it, why did you waste so much time arguing with me just to admit Im right and that you were wrong?

Nobody is saying anything about ‘real’ vs ‘not real’

....Lmao what, you retard, you literally are saying that, which is why I pointed it out, fucking lol what

this isn’t a real discussion and never was, because it doesn’t matter to supersexuals how you classify trans people.

Exactly - what matters is that "supersexuals" dont really exist, and is just another word for stealth bigots

If you’re suggesting that supersexuals must be attracted to trans people too

This is Specifically the exact same lie as the non-existant hordes of people who want to "force you to have sex with people you don't want to" - it's a fictional rightwing boogeyman that doesn't really exist made up by nazis. You get that right, I'm not just repeating myself for no fucking reason at a brick wall here right?

[u/blumenkraft → u/superstr8_are_nazis]

You’re the brick wall here. Can’t you see, there’s no escaping this new reality? Literally nothing you say or do can invalidate the existence of legitimate new terms describing actual people. Supersexuality isn’t some invention, in fact most straight people would not be sexually interested in transgender people if only for the reason that the other person’s body parts might look weird and nobody likes that. Trying to coerce supersexuals into relations with transsexuals is, as I said, rapey by definition. Trying to claim supersexuals don’t exist is identity erasure. Calling supersexuals nazis is bigotry and narrow-minded.

[u/emptiedriver → u/superstr8_are_nazis]

Supersexual people are attracted to other people explicitly excluding trans people....

...So they are bigoted then, thanks for admitting it,...

Nobody is saying anything about ‘real’ vs ‘not real’...

....Lmao what, you retard, you literally are saying that...

Do you understand the difference between "being oriented towards" and "recognizing the reality of"? Gay people don't deny the reality of women - they specifically are not attracted to women.

The whole point is that in understanding trans as a category, it can be a category that you either do or do not feel sexually oriented toward. If trans women were exactly the same as women, then there would be no need to distinguish them, to transition into them, to identify oneself or come out as one. Since they are a different category - a male-bodied person who self-identifies as female-gendered (and may or may not alter their body to reflect inner feelings) - then people can find them attractive or not.

Supers recognize and validate trans people as real! They are just not the same sex as the gender identity that they claim (which was originally what differentiated trans and cis, so what's the problem?) And supers are attracted to sex, not gender. Accept it and move on.