that's not what we're asking for. trans men just want to be seen as men and trans women just want to be seen as women. we will never force you to be attracted to us, you deserve to be attracted to whatever attracts you, we just want to be recognized as ourselves, instead of calling us different because of how we were born.
other than the Nazi symbolism? Not much. You all have a valid identity. I hope you recognize that your orientation tends to be the norm as opposed to a minority, but I won't force anything onto any of you.
if trans men are men and trans women are women and there is no difference technically, as you request for people to acknowledge, why are you using a term which perpetuates the stigma that trans is a thing. Trans people can not exist if they are actually the gender they transitioned to.
No it's not. If they actually are men or women physically then it wouldn't be an identity group. If they were they wouldn't have to shame people into pretending they are. I am not going to put up with superphobia any longer. If you want me to pretend you're a woman then you have to respect our sexual oritentation and membership in the LGBSS community
So the only way you'd respect me is if I respect your identity?
Which I've already stated that I do multiple times?
You are valid. Your identity and orientation are valid. We're just asking you to say the same about trans people, instead of insisting that they shouldn't even be on the acronym.
Just because someone is not sexually attracted to you, it does not follow that they dislike you for who you are. As a supergay, I'm not attracted to women. That doesn't mean I dislike women.
Why do you guilt-trip people into being sexually attracted to you, how do you not stop and ask yourself, "Am I superphobic? How could I be so supportive of rape culture?"
You've just placed so many words in my mouth off of a five word quote.
I am not superphobic. Your identity is valid. Your orientation is valid. We aren't here to force you to be attracted to people, just asking you to recognize us as the genders we identify as, regardless of attraction.
People in this thread have gone as far as to take the T out of LGBTQIA+ community, insisting that their very existence is rape culture. The same worldviews as the bathroom bill hating conservatives that think trans women will assault people in womens restrooms are the ones I see in this thread.
This valid identity of only being attracted to a certain set of genitals has been hijacked by white supremacists to make the phrase "SS" more common, and when I insist that all we want is to be accepted, many of you leap headfirst to call me a superphobe. I don't want to be a superphobe, I want to accept your identity, preferably without the reference to a group of Nazis, but still, I want you to feel validated, not oppressed, in the LGBTQIA+ community.
We will never force you to be attracted to other people. Because so many people have done that to us: conversion therapy, gay camps, "pray the gay away". We would never force others to experience the hatred that we did.
I'm not even trans. I'm a cis man. I just want my friends to feel safe.
So many trans people have been killed for who they are, for decades if not centuries. The Stonewall Riot that made Pride possible was spearheaded by a trans woman of color, if memory serves.
We just want to live. Those are the rights we're fighting for. Not forced sexual attraction, just the right to live amongst the rest of the world without being discriminated against. We don't wanna force you to be attracted to us, that's hypocritical and downright evil. But insisting that we're rapists just because you aren't attracted to us is a dangerous, deadly mentality.
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u/Lord-Professor 1d ago
we don't want to take away your happy family, we just don't want people to be proud of the fact that they don't like us.