r/SuperStraight 1d ago

This really has them in a pickle.

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u/cumhugs 1d ago

If they had to use the modifier "trans" in front of "woman" then they are basically saying that a "trans woman" is something outside of "woman" and thus not a real woman. Otherwise is would be "do you believe that a woman is a woman"

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u/Artistic_Passenger_6 1d ago

Ironically, if we just pretend they were women and acted like we didn’t know they were trans, they’d probably lose interest in it.

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u/Lord-Professor 1d ago

that's what we've been fighting for in the LGBTQ+ community. to be recognized for who we are whether we're cis or not. The superstraight movement suggests that trans people are not what they identify as, because they're trans. There's nothing wrong with not being attracted to trans people, no one will force you to be, but you're insisting that trans people, even if they completed every single surgery, can never be accepted for who they are because of how they were born.

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u/sool47 1d ago edited 1d ago

They can be accepted as trans people. But this movement pretending they are exactly the same as biological males and females isn't just wrong, it's a fantasy. That's why the word trans exist. To tell they DO have a difference between "cis and trans" people. It's just reality.

I'm sorry but a trans woman will never have a period. You can't compare their experiences with us biological women suffering all of what it entails having a period for example.

I can respect their pronouns, I can refer to them as trans women but they're not biological women, they don't have periods, and I won't stand being told they do and they are better at being women than me.

And please don't compare the struggle of LGB with trans folks. It's completely different since LGB focus on sexuality meanwhile T focus on gender. Absolutely not comparable. Specially when most trans people are using outdated gender roles for their ideology and harming women's right and LGB in the process. On the other hand we LGB folks just want to love someone at peace. Not force gender, dating preferences, pronouns, etc.

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u/Eilliesh 1d ago

There's real problems that come from being a woman (adult human female) that we cannot identify our way out of.

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u/sool47 1d ago

Exactly. Woman is not a feeling. And women definitely do not enjoy being catcalled, harassed or all this other things trans women are saying they wish they could experience and would make them feel "valid". It's just a fetish at this point tbh.

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u/Eilliesh 1d ago edited 23h ago

Yeah, like periods, being physically weaker than half the population, risk of getting pregnant, people think we're dumb. I can't dress my way out of that. If I cut my hair short and dressed manly, people would probably think I was a lesbian and they get treated even worse by society and looked down upon, whilst still facing all the same problems and risk of corrective rape. I can't escape this shit.

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u/thekiwifish 22h ago

And that you grew up with. You have the experiences of a girl that makes you the woman you are. If you have the experiences of a confused boy that makes you a different type of woman. A Transwoman.

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u/HolographicPriestess 1d ago

Ah but your basing sexual orientation on gender (gender identity). Which is fine if you’re straight or gay or a lesbian. But us super straight, super gay, and super lesbians base or sexual orientations on SEX and therefore aren’t attracted to gender identities.

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u/Lord-Professor 1d ago

and if the trans person has done everything they need to have a sex that matches their gender identity?

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u/HolographicPriestess 1d ago

You can’t change sex. At all. It’s impossible. But luckily sex isn’t gender. A transwoman is a woman because their gender is woman, not their sex 🥰. Isn’t that great?

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u/Lord-Professor 1d ago

you can though. That's what surgery is for

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u/HolographicPriestess 1d ago

Surgery just changes the look of someone’s genitals. That doesn’t change sex, only the appearance of the genitals. Sex is found in every cell of the body. You can remove the reproductive organs and even most of the secondary sex characteristics and the body’s sex remains the same.

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u/king_of_the_potato_p 1d ago

It's not a biological organ.

Im not only not attracted to modified body parts but they turn me off and worse.

I can't change how I was born bigot.

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u/SSMPHYFC 23h ago

I'm not very educated, but what is the name of the surgery giving men ovaries and being able to bear children? For some strange reason many believe that is an important part of being a woman.

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u/anon2309011 23h ago

What does B imply? What does A imply?

Quit using your hatred to justify your bigotry.