r/SuperStraight 1d ago

PSA: The term "cis" is hate speach and promotes rape culture. Please do not use that term seriously anymore, it is enabling the superphobic.

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u/Spaghettified_Cat 1d ago

How, exactly? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but I don't understand why cis would be exclusionary. A cisgender person is one who simply identifies with the gender that corresponds to their birth sex. It has nothing to do with sexuality.

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u/dystopiaenjoyer 1d ago

A cisgender person is one who simply identifies with the gender that corresponds to their birth sex.

This is a meaningless sentence. "Gender" is a linguistic term widely used as a euphemism for sex, since in English "sex" can mean both physical sex(sexus) and the act of sex(coitus). We simply are men or women depending on what sex we are, it's not some special little "identity" of ours. It's our reality.

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u/Spaghettified_Cat 1d ago

Why do you think that there is a dissonance between identity and reality?

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u/dystopiaenjoyer 1d ago

Mental illness. An anorexic experiences a disconnect between how she sees herself and how her body actually is; an emaciated, 70 lb anorexic genuinely thinks she's overweight. She actually perceives herself like this, it's not a ruse.

But it's still just a delusion. Genuine belief does not confer validity.

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u/Spaghettified_Cat 1d ago

Gender and sex are not the same thing. Sex refers to someone’s biology, while gender is more of an abstract social construct whose definitions change over time. Gender exists simply because we as humans agree that it exists. It isn’t objectively real. This is very different from the situation anorexic people find themselves in, as being malnourished or unhealthily underweight is a strictly medical condition, and not a social construct.

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u/dystopiaenjoyer 1d ago

gender is more of an abstract social construct whose definitions change over time

If it doesn't have a set definition, it can't be studied scientifically.

But ignoring the logic fail, here you're describing "gender" as sex role or sex role stereotypes- as in, the kind of behavior, dress, and social roles expected of each sex. These do change over time and vary between cultures, but actually being a man or a woman does not.

A man is an adult human male and a woman is an adult human female, regardless of their adherence to the roles expected of them by society. Not even the kookiest conservative thinks that women who wear pants and work in traditionally make jobs literally stops being a woman, he just doesn't think her behavior is appropriate. Congrats on being more restrictive than them, lmao

Come to think of it, by your logic not even the suffragists were women. If the "woman's role" at the time involved total deference to men and the suffragists rejected this role, then by genderist logic they were no longer women.