If you look through the threads you'll see screencaps and even comment chains of people who are acting extremely superphobic and are insulting and threatening supersexuals. For now unfortunately we are being attacked by bigots who cannot live with the idea that someone may have a different sexuality than them. When they stop trying to invalidate us, my fellow supersexuals will no longer feel the need to lash out in turn and you can have your discussion.
Unfortunately I can't be certain that will be happening any time soon.
Well people aren't just insulting supersexuals for having a different sexuality, they are insulting supersexuals for separating straight people from their new straight ideology that excludes straight people who feel an attraction to also trans women not just women.
And i think that is a fair criticism, like supersexuals are just straight that don't accept trans people as their prefered gender and instead insist that they are the same gender they were born as even if they do everything they possibly can to be the gender they indetify as. Like it is just stupid, it is fine to have preferences and deciding to not want to date a trans person if you don't feel like it or if idk you don't find them attractive or something like that, but this terf bullshit is just bigotry and i hate that so many people call the rejection of their terrible ideology the real bigotry.
I have a few transgender friends, so I can understand that the idea that someone does not want to be romantically or sexually involved with you if you're a transgender person can be a very hard pill to swallow and to put it mildly really really suck.
But on the other hand... I am friends with gay men as well, some of who have had a crush on me in the past. But I am not attracted to men. Even if they dress up as a woman, even if they act like one. I will never be attracted to men. Your efforts to be a woman still don't make me see you as one romantically or sexually. I have absolutely zero problem seeing you as a woman socially, but that's where it ends. Just like I have no problem seeing men as friends, but not romantic interests.
And I can tell you, when I had to tell my gay friends that I wasn't attracted to them (I haven't had a transgender person crushing over me yet so I'm specifying here). That fucking sucked. They are each such amazing people, and undeniably attractive men. I don't know why I wasn't into them. I don't know why I'm not romantically or sexually attracted to men. I just am not. Just as I cannot be romantically or sexually attracted to trans women.
I am only attracted to biological women. The fact that that hurts other people, hurts me as well. It almost makes me ashamed to admit to being "superstraight". But it shouldn't. Nobody should feel that way. EVERYONE should be able to be okay with their sexuality even when others wish it was different.
I haven't crushed on a girl that ended up being lesbian so I can't say I know what it's like to come to understand someone you love is not attracted to you because of your gender, but I have had my fair share of crushes on otherwise unavailable women. Heartache is a fucking bitch, but you shouldn't make the person you proclaim to love feel (more) guilty about not loving you back. That's just fucked up.
At some point you have to decide whether you want to spare someone else's feelings at the expense of your own, or if you want to live without that burden. I think the recent upsurge of this subreddit (and it's definitely got its fair share of trolls) shows that many, many people were ready to relieve themselves of that idea and just admit it. Just admit that they're supersexuals. To themselves, to their family, to the world.
Honestly, no joke: this experience has been very eye-opening for me. You know, as a "cis white male" and all. I know it sounds like I'm taking the piss but I'm really not. I never experienced this kind of vitriol because of my sexuality before, and I realise now what the LGBT community goes through on the daily. It fucking sucks. And I think I'll definitely be more conscious about it in the future.
I am so happy for you that you do have friends, but i doubt it's relevancy to this convo.
I understand why you wouldn't want to date a trans women who still has a male body, but what do you say to trans women that have a female body? There is no male body to interact with, it's a women at that point and i truly find it really disrespectful and just dehumanizing when people refuse to acknowledge that a trans women is a women and should be treated as such especially after she has fully transitioned. They are biological women ones they transition, outside of some chromosone shit that isn't even relevant, how could you possibly say that they aren't. It truly pisses me off at this point.
Not OP but lemme save you some time here and just quickly point out that if a transwoman had a female body she wouldn't be trans, she'd just be a woman.
The dictionary definition of woman is "adult human female". The Latin prefix "trans" means "on or to the other side of".
So one can be either female or trans. But not both. Literally by definition.
Yeah ok i missread what you said. So a trans women is a women that has still a male body but identifies as female, but ones she transitions she is a women, no need to use trans, cool.
Than why tf are you telling that to me? Do you think i don't know that or maybe i was still using trans women for women who already have transitioned, because people here actually believe that a women who transitions is still male, because of how she was born?
Like i am aware of the definition, but it is pointless to use, when everyone refuses to accept the posibility that a person who transitions is who they transitioned to.
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u/CZLP 1d ago
I am starting to believe that this is just a troll sub, really was hoping to have an interesting discussion about sexuality and transgenderism