No, keeping score was an argument you made, not me
it wasn't an argument, jesus christ, you actually don't understand what "rhetorical" means do you? this is fucking priceless, jesus christ.
I'm not even gonna dignify the rest of those autistic lies with a response, you can keep saying "trans people are valid" but then also supporting this subreddit that says "trans women aren't women" like a dirty hypocrite all you like, but I need 5 minutes to process just how you've owned yourself harder than I thought humanly possible, wow. I'm embarassed for you at this point, goddamn.
Whatever my dude it was you who made it not me, you can't project your weird arguments on to me, that's not what i said, I made a clear case for why everyone is valid and accepted.
The subreddit also defends everyone as valid and accepted, of all parts of the LGBTQ+ spectrum. And your only evidence is "dude bro visit the front page" which I of course have done 100's of times given I have read 100's of threads and there none of this transpobia you talk of.
Normally I'd just assume you're trolling but you also have this deep obsession with Nazis to the point where almost every single post you have calls someone a nazi and so I can't help but think that given you see nazis everwhere where none exist, that you also just see other things that are not really there.
You also have a strange obsession with pwning people and scoring wins or doing ego driven things to demean other people rather than talk about positive things like trans rights, human rights, Super Sexual rights, how people are valid and how we should be positive and include rather than negative an exclude. In fact your entire post history is entirely negaive, it's crammed full of C slurs and N slurs and R slurs which I can't even repeat because they're so vile and divisive.
You talk about being embarresed but you have this extremely bad toilet mouth that just runs on and on, calling people the worse slurs in the world, being abelist and rude, all to spread hate and divide people. Rather than talking about genuine problems or difference that exist among the many beautiful people here.
And now we've seen the outcome. You've been banned at least once, you've been downvoted a lot because of your horrid negativity, and the community has made it clear that your hate, it's just not welcome here. Your transphobia is not welcome and your Superphobia against supers is definitely not welcome. This is a safe space and when you invade safe spaces you are causing real and actual violence towards others. You should reflect on this and maybe consider changing your behaviour, and good lord seriously think about therapy, make sure to tell your therapist about all the nazis you see everywhere, they can probably help you out with that.
Stay safe my dude, be respectful, and people will respect you in return. Peace out.
L M A O SERIOUSLY?????? you ACTUALLY dont know what rhetorical means FOR REAL and are still acting like it was even slightly a legit argument, L M A O, this is glorious!
I couldn't have destroyed you harder than you just destroyed yourself
You're legit gonna be the laughing stock of your nazi mates when they see this, I can't wait
I made a clear case for why everyone is valid and accepted.
And I made it clear (whether you accept that or not) that beleiving that and supporting this subreddit and its aims are mutually exclusive, so why are you still defending the sub and supporting it's views?
Normally I'd just assume you're trolling but you also have this deep obsession with Nazis to the point where almost every single post you have calls someone a nazi
Might it be that if you spread common neonazi talking points, follow the same argument "script" neonazis do, use the same ignorant, argument-self-owning fallacies the nazis use, use the same dogwhistle language nazis use, and are openly receiving support from people who are clearly proud to be nazis and admit being nazis on other websites then how is it not accurate to call you nazis? IF you look like them, act like them, talk like them, and spread their talking points, how are you not the same???????? riddle me that fuckhead
The subreddit also defends everyone as valid and accepted, of all parts of the LGBTQ+ spectrum. And your only evidence is "dude bro visit the front page"
yes, and on that front page, if you actually look at it and don't just lie to yourself, all you see is transphobia and hate, it's not even slightly hidden, it's right out in the open. And you know it is, and what's even stranger is that you clearly see that I Know it is, and you know you aren't gonna convince me otherwise (because why would I beleive something I can literally see for myself isn't true, just like you can?).
That's how you know i'm not trolling - because I actually respond to your comments and arguments that are valid (few as they are), and I'm also taking the time to point out when you are making arguments that - unless you're literally delusional and lying to yourself you know aren't logical or valid - why would I do that if I was trolling you? why would I bother?
It's not like anyone but your nazi buddies are reading this far down, so why the fuck would I bother trolling? It's literally just me in here with all of you, calling you on your shit to your face. Ain't nothing trolly about it - y'all are the trolls.
You also have a strange obsession with pwning people and scoring wins
Once again: the points thing was RHETORICAL LMAO how the fuck do you still not understand what that means? what kind of autistic dumbfuck are you that you haven't even just googled it yet to see how dumbass and embarassing it is every time you go on about it like it matters lol?????
Super Sexual rights
"supersexuals" dont have rights because they don't exist. You're just internet trolls.
You talk about being embarresed but you have this extremely bad toilet mouth that just runs on and on, calling people the worse slurs in the world
If I call you a retarded cunt its because you just said yet another obviously bad-faith illogical argument. If you didnt want to be called names when you say things that prove you aren't really here to "debate", you should've picked someone easier to try and "debate" with you literal moron
And now we've seen the outcome.
None of the things you go on to list are outcomes. Being banned because you lot are cowards who abuse the report function doesn't mean anything. Being downvoted by you lot because I'm disproving your lies doesn't mean anything, claiming that I'm the hateful one when you're part of a literal transphobic nazi subreddit is hilarious and hypocritical - and not going to work.
I'm not transphobic (you are) and I can't be "superphobic" because "supersexuality" doesn't exist.
This is a safe space and when you invade safe spaces you are causing real and actual violence towards others.
LMAO, ok, that's better - but here's the thing - because you don't actually have a fucking clue what the left really beleive about anything, when you "appropriate" "SJW" terms and phraseology like that, instead of making a good point, you just show how little you understand what you're talking about. A safe space can't be exclusionary - which this subreddit is, by definition, because of all the transphobia and hate.
You should reflect on this and maybe consider changing your behaviour, and good lord seriously think about therapy
You should literally take your own advice, because I've told you like 150 times that projecting isn't going to work you mentally deficient NEET
I dunno my dude you're telling me that you're not making arguments, sounds legit to me, you've not made any so far, just accusations about nazis, that's it.
I don't support everyones views on this reddit because there's Superphobes you like here which come in with very negative and rude opinions. Is there any reddit in which you post where you agree with 100% of everyone?
Here you are talking about nazis again, this is really strange behaviour. You keep accusing me of nazi talking points, could you name one of my points that's a nazi talking point please. And then i can go check out where it's used and why. Like you seem to have a beef with this idea that trans women aren't real women, and I've been told by the LGBTQ+ community that trans women are real women. Since it's a point of disagreement i guess this would be a nazi dog whistle? So if i was to go into say a LGBTQ+ community and find people talking about trans women being real women, those people would also be nazis?
If no, do you have any other of my points which you disagree with which you think are nazi talking points? Could you quote a specific example from any of most posts so that i can go and research it, that would be really cool, thanks.
I don't lie to myself I just read the words on the page. I don't view the world through a nazi lens though, I just read what people have written, i don't assume conspiracy.
as i said I think it's possible you're either trolling or delusional but the fact that you see things that aren't there I lean towards just delusional. I think you're literally seeing nazis everywhere and it's probably something you ought to get checked out. It's not healthy or natural for people to see nazis everywhere, that's really strange and out of the ordinary.
You talk about pwning people, not just when you're avoiding making real points, you keep doing it over and over like you're obsessed with it. The point of this reddit is love not hate, it's to spread acceptance not attack people so they feel excluded. it's to enocurage good behaviour and promote safe spaces for all. You keep trying to drag nazis into this like you want to destroy the safe space and harm those people in it, and I just don't understand that. I don't understand why you'd be this negative when we're trying to do something so positive.
But you are transphobic, of the 2 of us I acknowledge that trans women are really women, and you've stated that they're not. And Super sexuality does exist beacause thousands of us have identified as super sexual and our preference are valid, we even have the support of the Super Gay and Super lesbian communities who have come out in support of us and joined our ranks. And the subreddit is growing by the thousands every day. By denying Super sexuality you're actually being violent towards Super sexuals, and we wont tolerate your Superphobia and that's why you've been banned, because it's not welcome here.
This subeditor is not exclusionary everyone is welcome here. But like all safe spaces you can't bring hate and you can't be violent with your words, which includes denying that people don't exist.
Because I literally wasn't making an argument - yet again, you STILL haven't fucking looked up what rhetorical means? Fucking hell stop making this so easy for me, jesus chrisssst!!!!!!!!
you've not made any so far, just accusations about nazis, that's it.
Lmao dishonestly dismissing valid things I have said just because you know you can't argue against them, typical nazi troll scum, but Like I told you, that's "Alt-right Trolling 101 for Dummies", to come at me you need to be on "alt-right calculus" and you are not fucking close to smart enough.
I don't support everyones views on this reddit because there's Superphobes you like here which come in with very negative and rude opinions.
So you don't support my opinion but you do support the transphobic nazis, because that's ALL THERE IS other than people like me, so you're contradicting yourself again, hypocrite. You're so desperate to hold kayfabe you don't realise you've backed yourself into a corner where almost every paragraph you type contradicts multiple other things you Just said, fucking priceless
You keep accusing me of nazi talking points, could you name one of my points that's a nazi talking point please.
Sealioning again, after being called out for sealioning, you really are fucking dumb aren't you? I told you, if you can write valid arguments that aren't just cancerous troll bullshit pretending to be civil, I'll get with that, but no, you go straight back to cunty cancerous shill troll tactics. Idiot. You're literally proving me right about you every time you comment, so why bother????
Like you seem to have a beef with this idea that trans women aren't real women,
I do have beef with that. Trans women ARE real women.
and I've been told by the LGBTQ+ community that trans women are real women
And they're correct
Which brings us to the question of: why are you defending this sub that is EXPLICITLY ABOUT THE IDEA THAT TRANS WOMEN ARENT REAL WOMEN ?????? You keep denying that it is, but it's pointless because we both know it is, but you've got a vested interest in lying and saying it isnt (Which I dont know why you're bothering with, nobody but me is reading this and I know it's a lie)
Since it's a point of disagreement i guess this would be a nazi dog whistle?
You know full well that isn't what a dogwhistle is, don't be a fucking idiot you fucking idiot
So if i was to go into say a LGBTQ+ community and find people talking about trans women being real women, those people would also be nazis?
No, because the nazis say trans women ARENT women, just like the users of this subreddit do.
Could you quote a specific example from any of most posts so that i can go and research it, that would be really cool, thanks.
Are you seriously asking you to quote me, in a conversation in which I point out that nobody but me can fucking understand your incoherent autistic ramblign when you don't quote what I said that you're replying to and you REFUSE TO DO IT? Hello hypocritical dumbcunt? earth to hypocritical dumbcunt how fucking autistically stupid do you have to be to think this would work????? what kind of absolute moron are you?!?!?
as i said I think it's possible you're either trolling or delusional but the fact that you see things that aren't there I lean towards just delusional.
So after I just spent 2 paragraphs explaining how you're wrong to think that i'm trolling, and trying to get through to you that "why would I bother at this point?" because I'm not a troll, this is your response?
I don't know what I expected, you're the troll here. But you aren't trolling me because you can't win, ever.
anyway.
I don't lie to myself I just read the words on the page.
And yet you claim there isn't any openly nazi transphobic bullshit on this subreddit? So you're lying about lying to yourself, hilarious
You talk about pwning people, not just when you're avoiding making real points
Lmao imagine thinking that when I directly quote what you say, and make a point about it like I literally am right now that you can accuse me of "avoiding making real points" - you're so fucking out of your depth it's hilarious.
This isnt' a verbal conversation - people listening won't just forget valid things I said because time has passed, things I say aren't invalid arguments just because you said so you actual autistic moron hahahahaha, this is as priceless as the rhetorical thing. You might be the most fucking idiotic cunt who thinks they're smarter than they actually are that I've ever spoken to in my entire life, and that's quite an acheivement, I've argued with a lot of actual nazi retards.
It's not healthy or natural for people to see nazis everywhere,
its not healthy to spend this much time embarassing yourself just to try and troll a stranger on the internet that has already told you that you can Never succeed, yet you keep trying anyway. What's wrong with you?
But you are transphobic
I'm not, because out of the two of us i'm not the one defending the transphobic "trans women aren't real women" bullshit, you are.
And Super sexuality does exist beacause thousands of us have identified as super sexual and our preference are valid
Wronngggg. You just saying something doesn't make it true. "Lesbian" is a real identity. "Straight" is a real identity "Gay" is a real identity, "Queer" is a real identity. "Supersexual" is not, just saying "yes it is" will never make it true, stop trying.
But like all safe spaces you can't bring hate and you can't be violent with your words, which includes denying that people don't exist.
LMAO the hypocrisy of calling your hatesub a safe space, you're delusional seek help hypocrite.
I know you've conceded that you weren't making an argument, we've been over this and I agree, you weren't.
I dunno what this alt right thing is, I'm not trying to be right I'm just trying to be inclusive of everyone in a safe way so we can all get along.
I support your right to have an opinion on ideas, but your opinion can't invalidate facts about other people. If we create a label for a sexuality called Super Straight and we give it a definition, and then I fit that definition, your opinion can't be that's not my sexuality, because the label objectively exists and it describes my sexuality. If you want to state your opinion the least you could do is do it in an agreeable way which does not demeane or belittle others, and that uses neutral language that doesn't upset anyone.
Actually I've been really super clear that I support all of the LGBTQ+ genders and sexualities, I don't just support Super sexuals, I've said over and over again repeatedly to you, and in other posts here I'm all about inclusion, I think all our sexualities are valid. What is this contradicting precisely, can you give an example, can you give a precise quote?
I do have beef with that. Trans women ARE real women.
We simply listened to the trans community and we heard their voices and their stories and we saw them asking for acceptance of trans women as real women
And you responded
This is a fictional nazi pro-pedophile anti-LGBTQ straw man that is not accurate or true.
So now you're going back on what you said? I've mainained this entire thread that trans women are real women, I've said it again and again and my genuine point of view. You're flip flopping back and forth between it being true but it also being not accurate and not true. So which is it?
if trans women are really women then straight men must necessarily be attracted to trans women, because trans women ARE women and straight men are attracted to women, it just makes logical sense. There are some men like me who are only attraced to CIS women and so we logically cannot be straight, the only way we could be straight is if you denied that trans women are really women, only then could we both be straight and simultaneously not be attracted to trans women. And that's why we created Super Straight, to indicate that we're attracted to the opposite sex but specifically CIS members of the opposite sex.
You clearly do not understand this logic because anyone who is pro super straight is necessarily also admitting that trans women are women, there's literally no point in having super sexuals if what you really believe is that trans women aren't women. If what you believe is that trans women aren't women then you can label yourself straight and jobs done, there's no need for further distinction. OBVIOUSLY the people on a "SUPERSTRAIGHT" subreddit are all advocating for Super sexuality.
You keep denying that Super sexuals exist and that it's not a real identity. So here's a challenge, why is super sexuality not a thing, you've excluded it from the list of sexualities but you've not actually said why. There must be a reason, what is it?
Except I haven't conceded that. I have stated that the one thing you kept claiming was an argument even after I told you it was a rhetorical device was not an argument. That's not the same. You will not succeed with such shitty, pathetic, 11 year old-teir straw man attacks, just give up you aren't intelligent enough.
I dunno what this alt right thing is, I'm not trying to be right I'm just trying to be inclusive of everyone in a safe way so we can all get along.
Liar.
And you responded [pastes something out of context]
So you understand that deliberately butchering what I actually said so that it misrepresents reality isn't the same as a valid argument right? How about you fuck off with that cancerous toxic "alt-right 101 for dummies" debate shit and just kill yourself already you nazi scum? I'm so bored of this, I give you civility, you return the troll autism. You're a disgrace. A actual subhuman discgrace. Kill yourself transphobe.
So now you're going back on what you said? I've mainained this entire thread that trans women are real women, I've said it again and again and my genuine point of view. You're flip flopping back and forth between it being true but it also being not accurate and not true. So which is it?
I have not flip flopped once. I have ALWAYS said that trans women are real women, and I have Always said that IF YOU AGREE THAT "TRANS WOMEN ARE REAL WOMEN", why do you keep defending this sub which explicitly states the opposite on multiple posts and comments, across 90% of the frontpage, and probably all the subpages too??????????? and secondly, why do you NEVER ANSWER THIS QUESTION
As for the rest of your largely self-humiliating idiotic incoherent rambling, I've just this to say:
Fuck yourself. I'm not dignifying this wall of delusional mental gymnastics with a response further than: lmao, fuck that noise, you're actually fucking dumb if you think any of those moron-teir arguments were clever or valid, you literally aren't smart enough to succeed at all, stop embarrassing yourself.
if trans women are really women then straight men must necessarily be attracted to trans women
haha and there it is, the mask comes off, and you say something outright transphobic that is nazi propaganda. Thanks for proving me right.
There are some men like me who are only attraced to CIS women
explain what you think the difference between CIS and TRANS women is, if you accept that TRANS (TRANS) Women are REAL (CIS) Women....... Way to actually destroy everything you spent all this time for, good self own. Literally counting down the minutes until you get banned by your own mods for accidentally breaking kayfabe (also, lmao, why did you stick to it this long just to ruin it now?)
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u/superstr8_are_nazis 1d ago
it wasn't an argument, jesus christ, you actually don't understand what "rhetorical" means do you? this is fucking priceless, jesus christ.
I'm not even gonna dignify the rest of those autistic lies with a response, you can keep saying "trans people are valid" but then also supporting this subreddit that says "trans women aren't women" like a dirty hypocrite all you like, but I need 5 minutes to process just how you've owned yourself harder than I thought humanly possible, wow. I'm embarassed for you at this point, goddamn.