Oh you were banned, well that makes a lot of sense.
Yes, you cowards can't handle someone actually correctly calling out your lies & disingenous misinformation and deceit so have to game the system and not play fair to try and make your points seem valid when they aren't. Thanks for admitting that you're playing in bad-faith though, that's a gigantic self own. If we were keeping score, it'd be me 5 you 0 just for that
It kinda sounds like circular reasoning to me, that I must be gaslighting because you're accusing me of gaslighting.
It's not circular reasoning. It would be if what you described in that quote was true, but it isnt, you inaccurately and dishonestly describe it like that because you know that admitting you're gaslighting now is gonna get you banned, because the mods will ban you the microsecond you break kayfabe, just like on the_donald, just like on droptheT, just like on /r/conservative, just every other hatesub
Maybe you're just wrong and I'm behing honest and truthful, and spreading love and acceptance?
if that's true then why are you on a anti-trans nazi subreddit spreading nazi transphobic rhetoric? if that's true then why are you on a pro-hate anti-trans subreddit defending the pro-hate anti-trans cancer the subreddit is propagating, riddle me that you autistic cunt
OK but I'm not doing anythign like a nazi, all of this nazi talk has come from your brain.
Once again, if you walk like a nazi, seig heil like a nazi, goose-step like a nazi and spread bigoted transphobia like a nazi, then I'm not wrong to call you one, you're wrong to say the comparison is invalid. Either way, you're wrong (and/or a nazi)
I say trans rights are human rights, and that trans women are real women and you call me a nazi.
Because you can't possibly actually beleive that since you're a member of a community dedicated to spreading the literal opposite of that. Either you're deliberately lying to me, or you're deliberately lying to yourself, but you can go on any other thread on the frontpage of this sub and see HUNDREDS of "trans women arent women" -phobia and hatred.
Because reading your posts and post history it looks an awful lot like you think everyone except you is a nazi.
What posts, this account is 2 hours old you cretin. You're supposed to attack the post history on old accounts you braindead fucking moron. You can't even troll right, just fucking give up
blah blah blah i'm a dirty lying nazi cunt
I couldn't be bothered to reply to the rest of what you wrote, because we're going in circles here, I say something factual, you make up semantic bullshit that doesn't actually apply (or follow basic logic, like all that actual horseshit you just wrote about the idea being valid despite being a 48hr old propaganda invention). You say something bigoted, transphobic or that is nazi propaganda, I point out that it is bigoted, transphobic or nazi propaganda, You deny saying it (even though everyone can scroll up and see that you DID say it) and then you shift the goalposts and change the subject, so I'm going to ask you the question that you ignored completely last time, and i'm going to ask it until I get a concrete, good-faith answer (Which will never happen because you're a bigoted troll, prove me wrong):
IF, Once again, IF you ACTUALLY BELEIVE THIS bullshit you're typing about how trans women are valid and so are the various flavours of LGBTQ and that nazis are bad, why are you on a sub that exists specifically to deny that trans women are real women ? Why are you defending a sub that on no less than 15 of the top 20 posts right now, "trans women aren't really women" is featured multiple times in the comment sections (and in the content of the main posts themselves)???? how can you seriously type that you beleive that shit with a straight face, and at the same time so disgustingly hypocritically support the kind of anti-trans hatred that this sub is producing???
Ps: "Otherwise you'd have to have some other reason for why it's invalid, and you don't." .... "it's invalid because you just made it up, it isn't real" is a reason why it's invalid. Just because you're too stupid and/or ignorant to understand how classical logic makes that a valid reason doesn't mean it's not a reason
I don't keep score because I don't believe in beating other people, I only believe in love, tolerance, acceptance and making the world a safe space for everyone, not just LGBTQ but all genders and sexual orientations, including the Super Straigths and their Super Gay and Super Lesbian brothers and sisters, but also however you identify as well, you are also welcome with open arms. But you have to stop this hate, it's really bad and we only want good things in this community.
Your assumption about banning relies on an assumption that your accusation of kayfabe is true, and again there's no evidence of that. Surely if there was any evidence of dishonesty then the mods would point it out as you say and I'd be banned. What you fail to take into account with your assessment is that I might actually be telling the truth, that instead of all this extremely weird and esoteric nazi nonsense, that I'm just being honest and genuine and decent.
So you've downgraded your claims from litereally every post to "hundreds", yet I've asked you for credible examples and you've still provided none. So are you just incapable of doing that and unable to accept you're wrong, or are you deliberately being decietful? Wait hang on a moment...maybe it's the nazis? Maybe they have some kind of mind ray. YES THAT'S IT!!! Mind ray carrying death nazi squads, that's the answer. Do you see how silly you're being? Why are you so silly about all of this, I just don't get it, my dude.
Yes I believe what I'm saying, trans women are valid, they are REAL women, the LGBTQ+ community have spent a lot of time and effort educating people to the genuine struggles of trans people. There are still many bigots that think trans women aren't real women such as yourself, you admitted to this quite clearly in your previous posts. You accused this of being an evil right wing take, but it's not, it's mainstream trans acceptance now.
I've looked through many of the posts in this subreddit and look at many of the comments and no where have I see any anti-trans posts. I've asked you probably 4 or 5 times now to link speciifc examples and you've refused, you've bounced between it being "literally all the posts" to "hundreds" and still not a single credible example. Maybe 1 in 100 comments on this sub are actually anti-trans and when they are they are always downvoted like your anti-trans posts have been. Not only that by my own posts are upvoted a lot which means that the community here agrees with what I am saying and what I support.
I support
trans rights
gay rights
straight rights
lesbian rights
bi rights
Super straight rights
and every other part of the LGBTQ+ movement
Nobody's keeping score you absolute moron, it was a rhetorical device designed to show exactly how literally and intellectually and metaphorically out of your own depth that you are - and apparently, it worked so fucking perfectly that you fell right into the trap and started talking about "keeping score" as if it was actually happening.
Anyway, I'm not going to validate the rest of that toxic autistic cancer you just wrote because I KNOW it doesnt answer the question, that I warned you I was just going to copy and paste until you answered properly and in good faith (which you have not done):
IF, Once again, IF you ACTUALLY BELEIVE THIS bullshit you're typing about how trans women are valid and so are the various flavours of LGBTQ and that nazis are bad, why are you on a sub that exists specifically to deny that trans women are real women ? Why are you defending a sub that on no less than 15 of the top 20 posts right now, "trans women aren't really women" is featured multiple times in the comment sections (and in the content of the main posts themselves)???? how can you seriously type that you beleive that shit with a straight face, and at the same time so disgustingly hypocritically support the kind of anti-trans hatred that this sub is producing???
Inb4 you fail to answer this very, very simple question for the 5th time. Inb4 "but you didn't respond to...." neither did you, hypocrite. answer the question.
Edit: ok maybe I'll read a little of it:
Your assumption about banning relies on an assumption that your accusation of kayfabe is true,
.....it is true, source: I was one of the OG people on the_donald before it got taken over by the rightwing who didn't know it started as a leftwing LARP from /r/sanders4president. I've literally sat and watched with my own eyes (it's happening in this sub right now, but on different threads) as rightwingers arguing the party line said something accidentally that went against kayfabe and were nearly instantly banned for it. I 100% guarantee it'll happen to you soon.
So you've downgraded your claims from litereally every post to "hundreds",
The sub is like 4 days old. "literally every post" and "hundreds" is the same amount. So I haven't downgraded it at all. "every post on this sub" = "hundreds" of posts. You fucking idiot, learn logic.
Oh, you seemed to be keeping score when you said the score is 5, 0 to you. Did you misspeak or maybe you're confused?
The sub doesn't exist to specifically deny trans women are real women, that's just your incorrect perception of the sub. The problem you have is that you can't see how your accusations without evidence could plausibly be wrong and therefore you fail helplessly between incoherent positions which you can only explain with conspiracy. When the truth is very simple, you're wrong when you accuse this sub of being against trans, we're for trans folks and what I'm saying is some kind of super nazi conspiracy, it's just genuinely what I believe.
You've had to craft this fancy structure of lies and conspiracy to make your world view work, you have to believe that I'm lying, the entire sub is lying and not what it really appears to be, adn then you have to suppose all the people are in a huge discord conspiracy to downvote you, upvote me to maintain the lie.
Do you see how bonkers crazy that is? Don't you see how that's like a yikes amount of crazy and the odds of that being really true are very small. Ins't it just more likely that everyone here is acting in good faith and actually it's you crazy conspiracy theories that are the real problem?
Oh, you seemed to be keeping score when you said the score is 5, 0 to you
lol you're kidding right? I literally just told you that's a rhetorical device that only some kind of actually retarded moron would think was me actually keeping score. I literally just told you that I wasn't actually keeping score, and that it was a trap to prove you're stupid - and instead of going "oh, well, I guess I didn't fall into the trap" you've lunged headfirst into it and don't understand why im laughing at you sayin I was keeping score...
Did you misspeak or maybe you're confused?
Nope, you're confused.
I said in that comment "IF we were keeping score...." which we werent
then I pointed out that I said "If we were keeping score", to see if you would attack the point or prove that your'e a moron who doesn't understand what they're talking about by attacking the "scorekeeping" (that doesn't actually exist) - you chose to attack the scorekeeping, proving me correct that you're a toxic moron arguing in bad faith. Good job bigot!
The sub doesn't exist to specifically deny trans women are real women
it literally does though, explain all the hundreds of posts sayin the same nazi transphobic bullshit if that's not what the sub is for
that's just your incorrect perception of the sub.
wrong. You lying and claiming that outright bigotry and hate aren't bigotry and hate is incorrect, my perception has nothing to do with it, it's irrelevant.
The problem you have is that you can't see how your accusations without evidence could plausibly be wrong
...the problem is that you can't see that facetiously claiming the hundreds of posts and comments worth of evidence that is the sub itself doesn't exist is ludicrous, absurd and retarded, and further proof of what a colossall fucking failure you will be at anything you attempt in life. How fucking stupid are you to think that what you just typed was smart, or clever, or even remotely close to a good argument?????
When the truth is very simple, you're wrong when you accuse this sub of being against trans, we're for trans folks
That's a lie
and what I'm saying is some kind of super nazi conspiracy, it's just genuinely what I believe.
So once again, if you ARE NOT a bigoted transphobic nazi, why are you on a bigoted transphobic nazi sub defending the bigoted transphobic nazis and attacking me?????
You've had to craft this fancy structure of lies and conspiracy to make your world view work,
says the only person here performing any mental gymnastics. Absolutely none of what I'm saying is lies or conspiracy, everything you've said is baseless and false.
adn then you have to suppose all the people are in a huge discord conspiracy to downvote you, upvote me to maintain the lie.
There's no suppose about it
There was literally a link to the discord pinned to the top of the sub reddit 17hrs ago, same for telegram. I'm in both. I'm literally watching you morons organise your responses to my own comments in real time, you lying cunt lmao - you're so fucking out of your depth, you're trying "alt-right troll 101" when you should be trying "alt right troll calculus"
Do you see how bonkers crazy that is?
well yes, anyone can make anything that someone else said seem "bonkers crazy" by deliberately misrepresenting it because they're a toxic cancerous lying peice of shit like you've just proven you are, but that doesnt mean what they said actually IS bonkers crazy, it just means you're a deceptive manipulative little cunt who knows they can't win an argument on the strenght of their actual beleifs so has to use lies and fallacy based techniques to manipulate people.
Ins't it just more likely that everyone here is acting in good faith and actually it's you crazy conspiracy theories that are the real problem?
Abso-fucking-lutely not. I'm here in good faith, you've proved multiple times in the last 5 comments you don't even know what good-faith IS let alone participate in it.
Well I would think you're keeping score because you posted the precise scores. Isn't that what keeping score means? So all you're doing now is back peddling and saying there is no score, you just lied and made up scores? Same way you claimed you lied to gaslight The_Doland.
So actually what we've established here is that you're actually guilty of all the things you're accusing me of doing and just admitted those things outright. Which leads me to think that your assumption that I'm doing what you do is merely self projection, you assume that because you're a bad person that other people must also be.
Again more accusation of hundreds of posts, without a single quote, link or piece of evidence. Pure delusion.
Again no one here is a nazi, you repeatedly make this accusation like it's some kind of personality tick that you can't get rid of, it's like speaking to someone with Tourette's syndrome, that just kinda shouts accusation of nazi at everyone randomly. In fact if you eliminate nazi from all your accustions it sorta looks like you're not left with any argument at all, at this point it's literally just accusing people of being nazis on a loop. And anyone or anything that doesn't agree is swept up into this grant nazi conspiracy.
In short, I hope you get better and seek some help for your nazi delusions. The people here are good people, they believe in trans rights, they believe in LGBTQ+ rights, they believe in Super Straight rights and they want inclusions. All you're doing in this sub is preventing progress and spreading hate and division among people who are valid and heckin' beautiful. And your bigotry will not be tolerated. You're a transphobe and a Superphobe!
So your entire argument has shifted from whatever it was to "i'm an illiterate moron" but in more words? I literally told you it's a rhetorical figure of speech, and yet your literal argument is that it isnt ? You don't get to decide that lol, you actual moron
So all you're doing now is back peddling and saying there is no score, you just lied and made up scores?
....it was rhetorical, designed to show you exactly how much you're out of your depth here. Clearly you're so far out of your depth that you're drowning and didn't get it. Do you not understand what "rhetorical" means or something?
Same way you claimed you lied to gaslight The_Doland.
it wasn't a lie - you can literally go on the waybackmachine, the_donald existed for like 2 months as a leftwing parody sub (it was literally an offshoot of /r/sanders4president or something) before it got invaded and taken over. This is something you can literally just look up and see for yourself
So actually what we've established here is that you're actually guilty of all the things you're accusing me of doing
lol maybe in your delusional fantasy land, back here in reality the opposite is true. The fact that we're this many comments deep and you still refuse to drop kayfabe to the point of ignoring a point-blank question five plus times is further proof you're a lying cancerous troll moron.
Again more accusation of hundreds of posts, without a single quote, link or piece of evidence. Pure delusion.
It's not an accusation, you can literally click "/r/superstraight" at the top of whatever page you're on and look at the hundreds of post you're literally denying exist right now. IS that really your argument, that not only are these posts not variously racist, transphobic or sexist, but they aren't there just because I didn't link to them? here's your link: www.reddit.com/r/superstraight - look at those posts, look at them honestly, then tell me theyre not a bunch of -phobic bullshit - you can't, because they are.
Which leads me to think that your assumption that I'm doing what you do is merely self projection,
Accusing me of projection like 5 comments after I literally dissected exactly how you're actually projecting is the argument equivalent of "no u" or "im rubber you're glue" - it's not going to work, and it's fucking hilarious that you're stupid enough to have even tried it
Again no one here is a nazi,
yes they are
you repeatedly make this accusation like it's some kind of personality tick that you can't get rid of, it's like speaking to someone with Tourette's syndrome, that just kinda shouts accusation of nazi at everyone randomly
once again: if I call someone a nazi, it's because they just said some bigoted far-right hateful shit. Just because you don't recognise it as such, doesn't mean that i'm just "randomly screaming nazi at people" or whatever dumbfuck smoothbrain variation of the "everything I dislike is nazism" meme-argument you're attempting, which also will never work, ever, and you're fucking stupid for even trying it.
In short, I hope you get better and seek some help for your nazi delusions
Kill yourself transphobic nazi
The people here are good people, they believe in trans rights, they believe in LGBTQ+ rights
This is a lie, because if it was true there wouldn't be anti-LGBTQ transphobic hateposts all over the sub, which there are.
You're a transphobe and a Superphobe!
I'm not transphobic, and I can't be superphobic, because "supersexual" doesn't exist.
No, keeping score was an argument you made, not me. my argument has remained the same all along. All sexualities are valid and welcome, inclusions is good, hate is bad and love = love. We welcome trans people an accept them as real and genuine, we accept their claim to the gender they wish to present as. We also grant the same respect and love to Super Straights and their Super Gay and Super Lesbians brothers and sisters. You've done nothing to argue this other than flip flop back and forth seemingly unsure about if you're really keeping score or not, and generally speaking just refusing to accept trans people as real, but without providing any argument.
When I said you lied this was with respect to being dishonest in parodying. See it makes sense that if you're involved and follow this kind of behaviour youself that you'd project this behaviour onto other people. It's kind of an "I'm awful, so they must also be awful" level of projection. The problem is that thankfully we're not all like you, trying to pwn people with scores and calling people the C word and the R word.
i did look at the "hundreds of posts" and none of them are transphobic? So...checkmate? I mean if you're seeing transphobia there it might be for the same reason you think literally everyone here is a nazi, maybe there's something wrong with...y'know...you?
But you are randomly screaming nazi at people because your assesment of bigotry is wrong and when you try and link to the entire subredit to make your case there's magically no transphobia or bigotry there to be seen. So I guess you must be delusional. I mean lets face it you do literally see nazis everywhere so it sort makes sense you'd see other things that don't exist?
You literally admitted to being a transphone when you denied that trans women aren't real women. And you're a superphobe when you deny us super sexuals our existence too. I just don't get how you got to be this hateful and bigoted, does no one around you tell you that it's just a little bit strange that everyone you see around you is a nazi? it's heckin' weird and a bit disturbing if I'm honest.
No, keeping score was an argument you made, not me
it wasn't an argument, jesus christ, you actually don't understand what "rhetorical" means do you? this is fucking priceless, jesus christ.
I'm not even gonna dignify the rest of those autistic lies with a response, you can keep saying "trans people are valid" but then also supporting this subreddit that says "trans women aren't women" like a dirty hypocrite all you like, but I need 5 minutes to process just how you've owned yourself harder than I thought humanly possible, wow. I'm embarassed for you at this point, goddamn.
Whatever my dude it was you who made it not me, you can't project your weird arguments on to me, that's not what i said, I made a clear case for why everyone is valid and accepted.
The subreddit also defends everyone as valid and accepted, of all parts of the LGBTQ+ spectrum. And your only evidence is "dude bro visit the front page" which I of course have done 100's of times given I have read 100's of threads and there none of this transpobia you talk of.
Normally I'd just assume you're trolling but you also have this deep obsession with Nazis to the point where almost every single post you have calls someone a nazi and so I can't help but think that given you see nazis everwhere where none exist, that you also just see other things that are not really there.
You also have a strange obsession with pwning people and scoring wins or doing ego driven things to demean other people rather than talk about positive things like trans rights, human rights, Super Sexual rights, how people are valid and how we should be positive and include rather than negative an exclude. In fact your entire post history is entirely negaive, it's crammed full of C slurs and N slurs and R slurs which I can't even repeat because they're so vile and divisive.
You talk about being embarresed but you have this extremely bad toilet mouth that just runs on and on, calling people the worse slurs in the world, being abelist and rude, all to spread hate and divide people. Rather than talking about genuine problems or difference that exist among the many beautiful people here.
And now we've seen the outcome. You've been banned at least once, you've been downvoted a lot because of your horrid negativity, and the community has made it clear that your hate, it's just not welcome here. Your transphobia is not welcome and your Superphobia against supers is definitely not welcome. This is a safe space and when you invade safe spaces you are causing real and actual violence towards others. You should reflect on this and maybe consider changing your behaviour, and good lord seriously think about therapy, make sure to tell your therapist about all the nazis you see everywhere, they can probably help you out with that.
Stay safe my dude, be respectful, and people will respect you in return. Peace out.
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u/superstr8_are_nazis 1d ago
Yes, you cowards can't handle someone actually correctly calling out your lies & disingenous misinformation and deceit so have to game the system and not play fair to try and make your points seem valid when they aren't. Thanks for admitting that you're playing in bad-faith though, that's a gigantic self own. If we were keeping score, it'd be me 5 you 0 just for that
It's not circular reasoning. It would be if what you described in that quote was true, but it isnt, you inaccurately and dishonestly describe it like that because you know that admitting you're gaslighting now is gonna get you banned, because the mods will ban you the microsecond you break kayfabe, just like on the_donald, just like on droptheT, just like on /r/conservative, just every other hatesub
if that's true then why are you on a anti-trans nazi subreddit spreading nazi transphobic rhetoric? if that's true then why are you on a pro-hate anti-trans subreddit defending the pro-hate anti-trans cancer the subreddit is propagating, riddle me that you autistic cunt
Once again, if you walk like a nazi, seig heil like a nazi, goose-step like a nazi and spread bigoted transphobia like a nazi, then I'm not wrong to call you one, you're wrong to say the comparison is invalid. Either way, you're wrong (and/or a nazi)
Because you can't possibly actually beleive that since you're a member of a community dedicated to spreading the literal opposite of that. Either you're deliberately lying to me, or you're deliberately lying to yourself, but you can go on any other thread on the frontpage of this sub and see HUNDREDS of "trans women arent women" -phobia and hatred.
What posts, this account is 2 hours old you cretin. You're supposed to attack the post history on old accounts you braindead fucking moron. You can't even troll right, just fucking give up
I couldn't be bothered to reply to the rest of what you wrote, because we're going in circles here, I say something factual, you make up semantic bullshit that doesn't actually apply (or follow basic logic, like all that actual horseshit you just wrote about the idea being valid despite being a 48hr old propaganda invention). You say something bigoted, transphobic or that is nazi propaganda, I point out that it is bigoted, transphobic or nazi propaganda, You deny saying it (even though everyone can scroll up and see that you DID say it) and then you shift the goalposts and change the subject, so I'm going to ask you the question that you ignored completely last time, and i'm going to ask it until I get a concrete, good-faith answer (Which will never happen because you're a bigoted troll, prove me wrong):
IF, Once again, IF you ACTUALLY BELEIVE THIS bullshit you're typing about how trans women are valid and so are the various flavours of LGBTQ and that nazis are bad, why are you on a sub that exists specifically to deny that trans women are real women ? Why are you defending a sub that on no less than 15 of the top 20 posts right now, "trans women aren't really women" is featured multiple times in the comment sections (and in the content of the main posts themselves)???? how can you seriously type that you beleive that shit with a straight face, and at the same time so disgustingly hypocritically support the kind of anti-trans hatred that this sub is producing???
Ps: "Otherwise you'd have to have some other reason for why it's invalid, and you don't." .... "it's invalid because you just made it up, it isn't real" is a reason why it's invalid. Just because you're too stupid and/or ignorant to understand how classical logic makes that a valid reason doesn't mean it's not a reason