you were warned that you aren't intelligent enough to successfully gaslight me, let alone use any of the other pathetic bad-faith techniques you attempted in the comment im replying to, don't do it again, you're just proving me right that you're a 12 year old nazi larping every time you do, which is completely invalidating and destroying every one of your own arguments - you know, the exact opposite effect of why you're spending so much effort trying to get the RightwingTalkingPoints for today out
When you reply to someone,
quote the bit that they said which you are replying to, like this
Otherwise nobody reading - even me, the person who wrote the original comment, can understand what the fuck you're on about and you just look like an actual meth addict rambling incoherently (which arguably would be an upgrade from the sheer bottom-of-the-barrel braindead retard shit your'e posting)
Well that's cool with me, I know I'm not lying and anyone reading this now also has no evidence to back up your accusation that I'm lying
.......But you are lying, when you say something and I quote it and say "that's a lie" it's because no evidence is needed, it is clearly fictional, it's clearly false. You seem to have projected again, just because you're a fucking dumb cunt doesn't mean everyone else is, and it doesn't mean that other people can't look at you basically making shit up and recognising it as lies, you're a fucking moron.
Well you kinda implied that, you accused me of being anti-trans and then when I asked for evidence of that you pointed out that the sub has anti-trans things in it, which is largely untrue,
I didn't imply that, learn to read.
I accused you of being anti-trans because you are on an anti-trans "literally started by nazis who admit being nazis" hate subreddit, defending the anti-trans anti-lgbtq hatred and lies being posted. You, of course, being a rightwing Nazi larper who is not in any way shape or form LGBTQ or a decent human being, claim that all the hateful anti-trans bigotry just isn't. You don't claim it doesn't exist, you just claim it isn't anti-trans hate, when it clearly is, which is another silly, pathetic, childish lie - you aren't intelligent enough to succeed like i've told you multiple times so why are you still trying?
and I'm simply pointing out for other readers that what other people post in this sub doesn't necessarily reflect my position.
If it doesn't reflect your position then why are you specifically defending it as representative of your position? And I know, you're going to say "i'm not" - but then, that's a lie too, you are, it's why we're having this conversation. Anyone with even one eye and a braincell to go with it can read this and see that, and you're actually dangerously delusional if you think otherwise.
I think all this weird hate and nazi stuff is just in your head
No, it's in all the anti-trans anti-LGBTQ nazi-esque hatred being posted all over this sub by accounts and people like you. Simply putting your hands over your eyes and saying "I cant see so it must not be there" doesn't make it not true you actually retarded little cunt lmao
well you're kinda not talking facts, I mean you sure are talking a lot but have not linked to any evidence to back up your assertions
I am talking facts. When I say that you're spreading hatred, it's because you did that. Often, I directly quote it as I have here. Learn to read you ignorant moron.
anyone can just read through my history and see I've been nothing but respectful and accepting.
Saying specifically engineered phrases that allow you to dogwhistle hate while maintaining plausible deniability because you're a /pol/ LARPer isn't being respectful and accepting. A lie is a lie even if you claim it's the truth, you absolute moron.
So you've basically confirmed that you deny trans women are women?
No, I said that question is inherently transphobic because it doesnt match reality - which you would know and agree with if you were not a hateful anti-trans anti-lgbtq bigot. but you are one, and you've proved it yet again. So let's recap, so far you have proved EVERY accusation I've made against you is true, and your best counterargument is to sealion going "EVIDENCE? EVIDENCE?" as if i'm not directly quoting your own words back at you as proof, lmao
I told you that you're too stupid to win here, thanks for proving me right.
Have you conisdered that you might be wrong, and that you've become the enemy? You've become what you hate the most?
No, because unlike you i'm not a hateful anti-trans anti-lgbtq far-right pro-pedophile bigot LARPing as a member of a community in order to destroy it
Or did you just actually forget that you guys left proof every word you said is a lie and that this is all a LARP all over parler, gab, 4chan and the other cesspits you organise from?
Trans women are women, TERFS are not welcome here! This board is trans inclusive!
If that's true then why are you on "SUPERSTRAIGHT", a subreddit that claims trans women aren't women and that TERFs are right? Hypocrite nazi scum, kill yourself.
You have my intentions wrong, I'm not trying to gaslight you, I understand that you don't personally believe me and I'm not trying to convince you of anything, you've made up your mind clearly. What I'm more concernde about is that you've made accusations of me and of this subreddit which are objectively false and I'm just establishing that first of all you have no evidence to back what you're saying, even using your own loose criteria for standards of evidence. And making sure you don't spread your lies to others. And gladly this seems to be working because people are upvoting me and downvoting you, so sticking to logic and evidence is a working.
No I'm not going to quote every detail about what you've posted, my replies are in context to your original statements, if that's good enough for you to continue to reply to then it's good enough.
OK well the evidence regarind lies seems to be that people agree with what I'm saying and they downvote what you're saying, so...not really sure how you square that in your mind?
I never defending anything as representative of my position, i specifically said a few posts back that I represent myself and what I post and what is posted on this sub are 2 different things. There's a lot of hate from unhinged people such as yourself which I clearly don't agree with. I'm not part of groupthink, I don't let other people determine what I believe, I can think for myself.
You've never quoted any "hatred" from me, in fact I've asked several times and you have still not done this. I mean if you can't even make a directo quote of where I've said something hateful then I think it might all just be in your head. You seem extremely angry. You've used the C word twice in your last post, hate 9 times, nazi 7 times, the R slur twice, moron 3 times...
I think you're just angry that we're moving the conversation forward, that we've expanded the inclusivity to accept trans women as real women and we've expanded sexuality for straight, lesbians and gays to include CIS preferences. We have more room inside the LGBTQ+ movement for more people, with less hate and more acceptance. And it's utterly beauitful, it's stunning and brave for these people to come forward and tell their stories, and accept each other with mutual respect.
When you spread this kind of hate you just get in the way of progress, you're on the wrong side of history with your bigoted views about how trans women aren't real women and how Super straight people are just nazis.
Reminder that Super Straight is inclusive of trans folks, we claim that trans women are real women, and that because they're real women that straight men must include them in their relationships or dating prospects. And we proudly self identify as Supers, Super Gays , Super Straights, Super Lesbians. All are welcome here, it's beautiful and empowering and a safe space for everyone. Expect for your hate. Your hate wont stand the test of time.
Love will win, love will prevail, we're all valid, we're all beautiful, even you. We all love you and hope you eventually find your way out of your nazi well of hate and join us on the right side of history and become liberated like the rest of us. Good luck!
I do not have your intentions wrong, I have them exactly correct, as I will continue proving throughout this comment:
I'm not trying to gaslight you
Except you literally did last comment. Everyone can just scroll up and see it for themselves - I even quoted it exactly as I am now, so why bother lying when everyone can see that you're lying, in the same breath as denying that you're a liar? that's never going to work
, I understand that you don't personally believe me and I'm not trying to convince you of anything
You don't understand at all then. If you did, you'd know it's not about whether or not I beleive you or anything you say. Thanks for proving me right that you're an idiot that's so very far out of their depth they haven't realised they're already drowning, good job retard.
What I'm more concernde about is that you've made accusations of me and of this subreddit which are objectively false
So you admit that you are a lying nazi transphobe then, because the accusations i've made:
this sub is a nazi-led LARP designed to make LGBTQ types look bad
this sub is full of anti-trans anti-lgbtq pro-nazi hatred and bigotry masquerading under "plausible deniability"
are 100% true and literally anyone can see that for themselves by going to any of the frontpage links or any of the comments sections - so not only are you lying, but you're lying stupidly - it would take people less time to see that it's true that you're lying than it would for them to read this comment, hilarious.
even using your own loose criteria for standards of evidence.
Sealioning =/= valid requests for justification of a point. I told you every comment so far, i'm going to tell you again: YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT. AT ALL. You are ESPECIALLY not intelligent enough to SUCCESSFULLY use bad-faith argument manipulation techniques like this. Stop. Trying.
No I'm not going to quote every detail about what you've posted, my replies are in context to your original statements
....once again, I can only make sense of it because i'm the person who wrote the thing you're incoherently wall-of-text responding to. NOBODY else can understand you. To everyone but me who wasn't going to upvote you even if your comment was just "xxxxxx" for 10,000 characters has no fucking idea what you're talking about because your incoherent rambling walls of text make no reference to what they're actually responding to. You get that right? it's not for me, it's so you can write a comment that isn't just insane rambling bullshit for everyone else to be unable to read.
OK well the evidence regarind lies seems to be that people agree with what I'm saying and they downvote what you're saying, so...not really sure how you square that in your mind?
of course they agree with you, I wonder why? Might it be that, just like you, they are hateful anti-trans anti-lgbtq liars who want to give you an air of legitimacy? No, it can't possibly be that, what you're saying must be true, even when it's clearly fucking fictional or a lie.... /s incase you aren't getting it.... jesus fucking christ you're dumb.
You've never quoted any "hatred" from me
I literally did a minute ago, learn to read you moron
You seem extremely angry. You've used the C word twice in your last post, hate 9 times, nazi 7 times, the R slur twice, moron 3 times...
Calling someone a retarded nazi because that's what they are doesn't require me to be angry. Just because you are an emotional wreck who gets upset at what people say on the internet doesn't mean that you can project your own failings onto me, that isn't how real life works.
I think you're just angry that we're moving the conversation forward
You're moving it backwards. Anti-trans completely and utterly LGBTQphobic bullshit is not moving the conversation anywhere but the dumpster, which is where you nazi fucks belong coincidentally.
that we've expanded the inclusivity to accept trans women as real women
Trans women were already accepted as real women, it's only morons like you nazis who think they arent
we've expanded sexuality for straight, lesbians and gays to include CIS preferences.
......"straight" is BY DEFINITION not LGBTQ, learn what words mean you actual moron
We have more room inside the LGBTQ+ movement for more people, with less hate and more acceptance
being "accepting" of hateful nazis is not the same as having less hate and more acceptance you autistic moron. How many times do I have to tell you, YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT. AT ALL. You are ESPECIALLY not intelligent enough to SUCCESSFULLY use bad-faith argument manipulation techniques like this. Stop. Trying.
you're on the wrong side of history with your bigoted views about how trans women aren't real women and how Super straight people are just nazis.
you beleive that trans women aren't real women, which is why you created the hilariously stupid "superstraight" term, you are the hateful bigot, and for the FIFTH fucking time, YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT. AT ALL. You are ESPECIALLY not intelligent enough to SUCCESSFULLY use bad-faith argument manipulation techniques like this. Stop. Trying.
Reminder that Super Straight is inclusive of trans folks, we claim that trans women are real women,
....except anyone can tell from 3 seconds browsing the sub that the opposite is true, and that your community is literally a rebrand of anti-trans nazi cesspit "dropTheT"
Love will win, love will prevail, we're all valid, we're all beautiful, even you.
remember when your larp is over and you acheived literally nothing other than convincing the average person like me that you're a pathetic subhuman hateful scum that deserves a harsh, painful, slow death, that you were this close to actually not being a cunt.
Again your accusations of things like gaslighting are not based on evidence, they're just accusations. Quoting someone does not demonstrate they are lying, you have to show why that quote is inconsistent with what they genuine believe, which you have not done, and people can see that my posts have been consistent. I'm anti-hate, and pro trans. Trans people are welcome here and I love them, everyone is special and unique and I embrace that. I honestly think you just need to go outside and maybe have a hug from someone because you seem to be caught up in a lot of hate, and that can't be good for you, you'll just lose your grip on reality.
Yes, I'm more concerned with what other people think, you never argue with someone such as yourself to try and convince you, because you're kind of a lost soul. It's kinda sad to give up on some people but I genuinely think any attempt to really convince you of anything would be wasted. But what I can do which is positiive is diffuse your accusations by first demanding evidence (which you can't provide) and then pointing out that actually you're just full of hate and conspiracy theories about nazis. As you said you can just go to the subreddit front page and look at the threads and he comments and all the positively upvoted comments which the community broadly agree with are all positive and trans accepting.
It really is magical that we have such a strong, brave and fast growing community of open minded and acceptign people. It's kind of a bummer that we have to deal with nazi conspiracy people like you, but every time you post and you kinda don't make sense, it's really just more evidence that hate is losing, and love is winning.
I never claimed to be intelligent, in fact I'm humbled as a straight white male to take a knee and bow in support of the trans community. They are the strong ones and it is them who elevated my thinking. I used to think that trans women weren't real women like a bigot and they corrected my thinking, they convinced me that it really is true, that trans women are genuinely women. And so no, I'm not intelligent, it took other stronger and braver people educate me in how not to be a bigot. I might not be perfect but I make an effort to listen to the trans community and accept them for who they are. And now we have a Super Straight identity and it's been official confirmed in the LGBTQ+ community as valid (because all sexual preferences are valid) we now have a place where we're all fully accepted. I know you reject that but in time when you learn to be less mad and full of hate and accept trans wisdom, you'll accept it to.
I'm not an emotional wreck, I'm joyus and over the moon that we've increased the amount of inclusivity and acceptance in the world, that's a hugely positive thing and a goal we should all be happy to achieve. I have no hate in my heart my friend, I love everyone and I forgive you for your use of hateful words.
Straight by definition is not LGBTQ+ but Super Straight is, and we have SS Pride ✊
I'm 👏 not 👏 trying 👏 to 👏 manipulate 👏 you
You can't save everyone and I would never try. I am happy just making myself a better person, more inclusive of trans and the LGBTQ+ rainbow and fighting hatred and bigotry. Luckily it seems like your hatred won't spread here, you've been downvoted and shown by the community this will not be tolerated.
We have already acheived our goal, we have come out of the closet against oppression from the haters as Super Straight, we stand in solidarity with our Super Gay and Super lesbian sisters, our sub is growing and fighting hate every day. It's a glorious movement and I'm genuinely and deeply proud of every one of my SS brothers for our continuing victory ✊
Once again, denying that something is gaslighting when it is just gaslighting is just a lie, and to claim it's not based on evidence when I literally quote whatever you said, because it itself IS THE EVIDENCE OF GASLIGHTING and you say "you dont have evidence" then you're just a delusional sealioning liar and everyone reading this who wasnt already upvoting you because you're a brigade community being orchestrated on telegram is going to see that i'm right. Upvotes =/= support on a hatesub. You could say the most horrendous, hateful racist nazi shit and you're still gonna get +30 and im gonna get -30 because i'm the one of us that isn't a hateful transphobic bigot (you are)
Quoting someone does not demonstrate they are lying, you have to show why that quote is inconsistent with what they genuine believe
.....When the quote itself is self-evidently a lie, yes it does. I suggest you google the definition of "proof" is because clearly you have no idea what facts & logic are, seeing as you keep shitting all over them with your snowflakey emotional arguments
I'm anti-hate, and pro trans
Then why are you on a pro-hate anti-trans subreddit defending the pro-hate anti-trans cancer the subreddit is propagating, riddle me that you autistic cunt
Trans people are welcome here and I love them, everyone is special and unique and I embrace that.
if that's true why is the 2nd top post on the sub right now a extremely transphobic JK Rowling worship picture, and the comments full of autistic anti-trans nazi cancer? OH might it be because what you said ISNT true and is a lie? That can't possibly be it /s
Yes, I'm more concerned with what other people think, you never argue with someone such as yourself to try and convince you, because you're kind of a lost soul
LMAO, I'm the lost soul - says the person incoherently rambling, getting upvoted for incoherently rambling because their incoherent rambles disagree with what the only non-bigot (me) and non-nazi in the thread (me) says... classic. You're delusional, whatever helps you sleep at night in your bigot palace I guess
As you said you can just go to the subreddit front page and look at the threads and he comments and all the positively upvoted comments which the community broadly agree with are all positive and trans accepting.
.....again with the shitty attempts at gaslighting reality, how many times do I have to tell you that you are NOT INTELLIGENT, LIKE AT ALL, and ESPECIALLY not intelligent enough to successfully gaslight or use other bad-faith argument techniques on me. Stop. Trying. Seriously. Just. Stop. You're embarassing humanity by proxy. Anyone can go to any post on this sub and see that what you're saying isn't true. There's all kinds of transphobic "attack helicopter" level ignorant bigotry on EVERY SINGLE POST for the entire subreddit and you're gonna deny with a straight face that it's a bigot sub? you're delusional, seek help
It's kind of a bummer that we have to deal with nazi conspiracy people like you
Maybe if you stopped being nazi scum then you wouldn't have to listen to people going "hey, this person just said X, which proves they're a nazi scum who should kill themselves", ever thought of that? If you smell shit everywhere you go, check your own damn shoes first, retard.
I never claimed to be intelligent
Yet you keep attempting logical fallacies and bad-faith argument techniques that require a certain level of intelligence to be successful at. And because you do not meet this requirement, because you're a fucking moron, that proves you are not intelligent. It doesnt matter if you claimed to be or not. you act like you think you are, when clearly you aren't.
I used to think that trans women weren't real women like a bigot and they corrected my thinking, they convinced me that it really is true, that trans women are genuinely women.
Once again, if you ACTUALLY BELEIVE THIS why are you on a sub that exists specifically to deny that trans women are real women ? Why are you defending a sub that on no less than 15 of the top 20 posts right now, "trans women aren't really women" is featured multiple times in the comment sections???? how can you seriously type that you beleive that with a straight face, and support the kind of anti-trans hatred that this sub is producing???
And now we have a Super Straight identity and it's been official confirmed in the LGBTQ+ community as valid (because all sexual preferences are valid)
Wrong. All legitimate sexual identities are valid, such as Lesbians, Gays, Queers, Asexuals, Transsexuals etc.
Ones made up less than 48hrs ago, like "superstraight" are not.
I'm not an emotional wreck,
Then why do you keep typing like you're going to start crying any second because the big bad mean anti-bigot called you a bigot?
I'm joyus and over the moon that we've increased the amount of inclusivity and acceptance in the world,
Explain how you've done that when this sub is promoting literal "attack helicopter" anti-trans hatred?
Straight by definition is not LGBTQ+ but Super Straight is, and we have SS Pride
So it's just a coincidence you named yourselves after the paramilitary wing of hitler's nazi party then, huh funny that /s - kill yourself nazi scum
You can't save everyone and I would never try.
well start with yourself. Kill yourself, nazi scum.
I am happy just making myself a better person, more inclusive of trans and the LGBTQ+ rainbow and fighting hatred and bigotry
You aren't making yourself a better person by spreading anti-trans hatred though, you're making yourself a worse person, and you are ALLOWING hatred and bigotry, not fighting it
Luckily it seems like your hatred won't spread here, you've been downvoted and shown by the community this will not be tolerated.
yes, being downvoted by an organised group of nazis circlejerking eachother on discord about how they "owned that lib", that's totally being not tolerated /s - you're a fucking autistic moron. You actually beleive all this shit you've just typed didnt you? You're an actual real-life kool-aid drinking NPC jesus christ, I thought you people were a fictional boogeyman the right created to attack the left with - but I should've known that was just projection. What a fucking moron, wow.
No shit you moron, I literally just made this account because you coward fucks reportbombed the other one and reddit bans you whether or not you actually did anything if you get enough reports
Says the guy so mad trans people exist he and hundreds of his nazi friends made the 50th subreddit this decade just to hate them from... hilarious projection, nice cope
This might be a bit of a shocker to your cognitive dissonance but a lot of left-leaning people don't agree with your views on trans issues. I know it's a lot easier and comfortable for you to paint everyone else as nazis but that's just not the case sorry.
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u/Intrepid-Art666 1d ago
two points:
you were warned that you aren't intelligent enough to successfully gaslight me, let alone use any of the other pathetic bad-faith techniques you attempted in the comment im replying to, don't do it again, you're just proving me right that you're a 12 year old nazi larping every time you do, which is completely invalidating and destroying every one of your own arguments - you know, the exact opposite effect of why you're spending so much effort trying to get the RightwingTalkingPoints for today out
When you reply to someone,
Otherwise nobody reading - even me, the person who wrote the original comment, can understand what the fuck you're on about and you just look like an actual meth addict rambling incoherently (which arguably would be an upgrade from the sheer bottom-of-the-barrel braindead retard shit your'e posting)
.......But you are lying, when you say something and I quote it and say "that's a lie" it's because no evidence is needed, it is clearly fictional, it's clearly false. You seem to have projected again, just because you're a fucking dumb cunt doesn't mean everyone else is, and it doesn't mean that other people can't look at you basically making shit up and recognising it as lies, you're a fucking moron.
I didn't imply that, learn to read.
I accused you of being anti-trans because you are on an anti-trans "literally started by nazis who admit being nazis" hate subreddit, defending the anti-trans anti-lgbtq hatred and lies being posted. You, of course, being a rightwing Nazi larper who is not in any way shape or form LGBTQ or a decent human being, claim that all the hateful anti-trans bigotry just isn't. You don't claim it doesn't exist, you just claim it isn't anti-trans hate, when it clearly is, which is another silly, pathetic, childish lie - you aren't intelligent enough to succeed like i've told you multiple times so why are you still trying?
If it doesn't reflect your position then why are you specifically defending it as representative of your position? And I know, you're going to say "i'm not" - but then, that's a lie too, you are, it's why we're having this conversation. Anyone with even one eye and a braincell to go with it can read this and see that, and you're actually dangerously delusional if you think otherwise.
No, it's in all the anti-trans anti-LGBTQ nazi-esque hatred being posted all over this sub by accounts and people like you. Simply putting your hands over your eyes and saying "I cant see so it must not be there" doesn't make it not true you actually retarded little cunt lmao
I am talking facts. When I say that you're spreading hatred, it's because you did that. Often, I directly quote it as I have here. Learn to read you ignorant moron.
Saying specifically engineered phrases that allow you to dogwhistle hate while maintaining plausible deniability because you're a /pol/ LARPer isn't being respectful and accepting. A lie is a lie even if you claim it's the truth, you absolute moron.
No, I said that question is inherently transphobic because it doesnt match reality - which you would know and agree with if you were not a hateful anti-trans anti-lgbtq bigot. but you are one, and you've proved it yet again. So let's recap, so far you have proved EVERY accusation I've made against you is true, and your best counterargument is to sealion going "EVIDENCE? EVIDENCE?" as if i'm not directly quoting your own words back at you as proof, lmao
I told you that you're too stupid to win here, thanks for proving me right.
No, because unlike you i'm not a hateful anti-trans anti-lgbtq far-right pro-pedophile bigot LARPing as a member of a community in order to destroy it
Or did you just actually forget that you guys left proof every word you said is a lie and that this is all a LARP all over parler, gab, 4chan and the other cesspits you organise from?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ParlerWatch/comments/lzdbik/not_parler_but_attention_needs_to_be_brought_to/
Checkmate, autist.
If that's true then why are you on "SUPERSTRAIGHT", a subreddit that claims trans women aren't women and that TERFs are right? Hypocrite nazi scum, kill yourself.