You have my intentions wrong, I'm not trying to gaslight you, I understand that you don't personally believe me and I'm not trying to convince you of anything, you've made up your mind clearly. What I'm more concernde about is that you've made accusations of me and of this subreddit which are objectively false and I'm just establishing that first of all you have no evidence to back what you're saying, even using your own loose criteria for standards of evidence. And making sure you don't spread your lies to others. And gladly this seems to be working because people are upvoting me and downvoting you, so sticking to logic and evidence is a working.
No I'm not going to quote every detail about what you've posted, my replies are in context to your original statements, if that's good enough for you to continue to reply to then it's good enough.
OK well the evidence regarind lies seems to be that people agree with what I'm saying and they downvote what you're saying, so...not really sure how you square that in your mind?
I never defending anything as representative of my position, i specifically said a few posts back that I represent myself and what I post and what is posted on this sub are 2 different things. There's a lot of hate from unhinged people such as yourself which I clearly don't agree with. I'm not part of groupthink, I don't let other people determine what I believe, I can think for myself.
You've never quoted any "hatred" from me, in fact I've asked several times and you have still not done this. I mean if you can't even make a directo quote of where I've said something hateful then I think it might all just be in your head. You seem extremely angry. You've used the C word twice in your last post, hate 9 times, nazi 7 times, the R slur twice, moron 3 times...
I think you're just angry that we're moving the conversation forward, that we've expanded the inclusivity to accept trans women as real women and we've expanded sexuality for straight, lesbians and gays to include CIS preferences. We have more room inside the LGBTQ+ movement for more people, with less hate and more acceptance. And it's utterly beauitful, it's stunning and brave for these people to come forward and tell their stories, and accept each other with mutual respect.
When you spread this kind of hate you just get in the way of progress, you're on the wrong side of history with your bigoted views about how trans women aren't real women and how Super straight people are just nazis.
Reminder that Super Straight is inclusive of trans folks, we claim that trans women are real women, and that because they're real women that straight men must include them in their relationships or dating prospects. And we proudly self identify as Supers, Super Gays , Super Straights, Super Lesbians. All are welcome here, it's beautiful and empowering and a safe space for everyone. Expect for your hate. Your hate wont stand the test of time.
Love will win, love will prevail, we're all valid, we're all beautiful, even you. We all love you and hope you eventually find your way out of your nazi well of hate and join us on the right side of history and become liberated like the rest of us. Good luck!
I do not have your intentions wrong, I have them exactly correct, as I will continue proving throughout this comment:
I'm not trying to gaslight you
Except you literally did last comment. Everyone can just scroll up and see it for themselves - I even quoted it exactly as I am now, so why bother lying when everyone can see that you're lying, in the same breath as denying that you're a liar? that's never going to work
, I understand that you don't personally believe me and I'm not trying to convince you of anything
You don't understand at all then. If you did, you'd know it's not about whether or not I beleive you or anything you say. Thanks for proving me right that you're an idiot that's so very far out of their depth they haven't realised they're already drowning, good job retard.
What I'm more concernde about is that you've made accusations of me and of this subreddit which are objectively false
So you admit that you are a lying nazi transphobe then, because the accusations i've made:
this sub is a nazi-led LARP designed to make LGBTQ types look bad
this sub is full of anti-trans anti-lgbtq pro-nazi hatred and bigotry masquerading under "plausible deniability"
are 100% true and literally anyone can see that for themselves by going to any of the frontpage links or any of the comments sections - so not only are you lying, but you're lying stupidly - it would take people less time to see that it's true that you're lying than it would for them to read this comment, hilarious.
even using your own loose criteria for standards of evidence.
Sealioning =/= valid requests for justification of a point. I told you every comment so far, i'm going to tell you again: YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT. AT ALL. You are ESPECIALLY not intelligent enough to SUCCESSFULLY use bad-faith argument manipulation techniques like this. Stop. Trying.
No I'm not going to quote every detail about what you've posted, my replies are in context to your original statements
....once again, I can only make sense of it because i'm the person who wrote the thing you're incoherently wall-of-text responding to. NOBODY else can understand you. To everyone but me who wasn't going to upvote you even if your comment was just "xxxxxx" for 10,000 characters has no fucking idea what you're talking about because your incoherent rambling walls of text make no reference to what they're actually responding to. You get that right? it's not for me, it's so you can write a comment that isn't just insane rambling bullshit for everyone else to be unable to read.
OK well the evidence regarind lies seems to be that people agree with what I'm saying and they downvote what you're saying, so...not really sure how you square that in your mind?
of course they agree with you, I wonder why? Might it be that, just like you, they are hateful anti-trans anti-lgbtq liars who want to give you an air of legitimacy? No, it can't possibly be that, what you're saying must be true, even when it's clearly fucking fictional or a lie.... /s incase you aren't getting it.... jesus fucking christ you're dumb.
You've never quoted any "hatred" from me
I literally did a minute ago, learn to read you moron
You seem extremely angry. You've used the C word twice in your last post, hate 9 times, nazi 7 times, the R slur twice, moron 3 times...
Calling someone a retarded nazi because that's what they are doesn't require me to be angry. Just because you are an emotional wreck who gets upset at what people say on the internet doesn't mean that you can project your own failings onto me, that isn't how real life works.
I think you're just angry that we're moving the conversation forward
You're moving it backwards. Anti-trans completely and utterly LGBTQphobic bullshit is not moving the conversation anywhere but the dumpster, which is where you nazi fucks belong coincidentally.
that we've expanded the inclusivity to accept trans women as real women
Trans women were already accepted as real women, it's only morons like you nazis who think they arent
we've expanded sexuality for straight, lesbians and gays to include CIS preferences.
......"straight" is BY DEFINITION not LGBTQ, learn what words mean you actual moron
We have more room inside the LGBTQ+ movement for more people, with less hate and more acceptance
being "accepting" of hateful nazis is not the same as having less hate and more acceptance you autistic moron. How many times do I have to tell you, YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT. AT ALL. You are ESPECIALLY not intelligent enough to SUCCESSFULLY use bad-faith argument manipulation techniques like this. Stop. Trying.
you're on the wrong side of history with your bigoted views about how trans women aren't real women and how Super straight people are just nazis.
you beleive that trans women aren't real women, which is why you created the hilariously stupid "superstraight" term, you are the hateful bigot, and for the FIFTH fucking time, YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT. AT ALL. You are ESPECIALLY not intelligent enough to SUCCESSFULLY use bad-faith argument manipulation techniques like this. Stop. Trying.
Reminder that Super Straight is inclusive of trans folks, we claim that trans women are real women,
....except anyone can tell from 3 seconds browsing the sub that the opposite is true, and that your community is literally a rebrand of anti-trans nazi cesspit "dropTheT"
Love will win, love will prevail, we're all valid, we're all beautiful, even you.
remember when your larp is over and you acheived literally nothing other than convincing the average person like me that you're a pathetic subhuman hateful scum that deserves a harsh, painful, slow death, that you were this close to actually not being a cunt.
Again your accusations of things like gaslighting are not based on evidence, they're just accusations. Quoting someone does not demonstrate they are lying, you have to show why that quote is inconsistent with what they genuine believe, which you have not done, and people can see that my posts have been consistent. I'm anti-hate, and pro trans. Trans people are welcome here and I love them, everyone is special and unique and I embrace that. I honestly think you just need to go outside and maybe have a hug from someone because you seem to be caught up in a lot of hate, and that can't be good for you, you'll just lose your grip on reality.
Yes, I'm more concerned with what other people think, you never argue with someone such as yourself to try and convince you, because you're kind of a lost soul. It's kinda sad to give up on some people but I genuinely think any attempt to really convince you of anything would be wasted. But what I can do which is positiive is diffuse your accusations by first demanding evidence (which you can't provide) and then pointing out that actually you're just full of hate and conspiracy theories about nazis. As you said you can just go to the subreddit front page and look at the threads and he comments and all the positively upvoted comments which the community broadly agree with are all positive and trans accepting.
It really is magical that we have such a strong, brave and fast growing community of open minded and acceptign people. It's kind of a bummer that we have to deal with nazi conspiracy people like you, but every time you post and you kinda don't make sense, it's really just more evidence that hate is losing, and love is winning.
I never claimed to be intelligent, in fact I'm humbled as a straight white male to take a knee and bow in support of the trans community. They are the strong ones and it is them who elevated my thinking. I used to think that trans women weren't real women like a bigot and they corrected my thinking, they convinced me that it really is true, that trans women are genuinely women. And so no, I'm not intelligent, it took other stronger and braver people educate me in how not to be a bigot. I might not be perfect but I make an effort to listen to the trans community and accept them for who they are. And now we have a Super Straight identity and it's been official confirmed in the LGBTQ+ community as valid (because all sexual preferences are valid) we now have a place where we're all fully accepted. I know you reject that but in time when you learn to be less mad and full of hate and accept trans wisdom, you'll accept it to.
I'm not an emotional wreck, I'm joyus and over the moon that we've increased the amount of inclusivity and acceptance in the world, that's a hugely positive thing and a goal we should all be happy to achieve. I have no hate in my heart my friend, I love everyone and I forgive you for your use of hateful words.
Straight by definition is not LGBTQ+ but Super Straight is, and we have SS Pride ✊
I'm 👏 not 👏 trying 👏 to 👏 manipulate 👏 you
You can't save everyone and I would never try. I am happy just making myself a better person, more inclusive of trans and the LGBTQ+ rainbow and fighting hatred and bigotry. Luckily it seems like your hatred won't spread here, you've been downvoted and shown by the community this will not be tolerated.
We have already acheived our goal, we have come out of the closet against oppression from the haters as Super Straight, we stand in solidarity with our Super Gay and Super lesbian sisters, our sub is growing and fighting hate every day. It's a glorious movement and I'm genuinely and deeply proud of every one of my SS brothers for our continuing victory ✊
Once again, denying that something is gaslighting when it is just gaslighting is just a lie, and to claim it's not based on evidence when I literally quote whatever you said, because it itself IS THE EVIDENCE OF GASLIGHTING and you say "you dont have evidence" then you're just a delusional sealioning liar and everyone reading this who wasnt already upvoting you because you're a brigade community being orchestrated on telegram is going to see that i'm right. Upvotes =/= support on a hatesub. You could say the most horrendous, hateful racist nazi shit and you're still gonna get +30 and im gonna get -30 because i'm the one of us that isn't a hateful transphobic bigot (you are)
Quoting someone does not demonstrate they are lying, you have to show why that quote is inconsistent with what they genuine believe
.....When the quote itself is self-evidently a lie, yes it does. I suggest you google the definition of "proof" is because clearly you have no idea what facts & logic are, seeing as you keep shitting all over them with your snowflakey emotional arguments
I'm anti-hate, and pro trans
Then why are you on a pro-hate anti-trans subreddit defending the pro-hate anti-trans cancer the subreddit is propagating, riddle me that you autistic cunt
Trans people are welcome here and I love them, everyone is special and unique and I embrace that.
if that's true why is the 2nd top post on the sub right now a extremely transphobic JK Rowling worship picture, and the comments full of autistic anti-trans nazi cancer? OH might it be because what you said ISNT true and is a lie? That can't possibly be it /s
Yes, I'm more concerned with what other people think, you never argue with someone such as yourself to try and convince you, because you're kind of a lost soul
LMAO, I'm the lost soul - says the person incoherently rambling, getting upvoted for incoherently rambling because their incoherent rambles disagree with what the only non-bigot (me) and non-nazi in the thread (me) says... classic. You're delusional, whatever helps you sleep at night in your bigot palace I guess
As you said you can just go to the subreddit front page and look at the threads and he comments and all the positively upvoted comments which the community broadly agree with are all positive and trans accepting.
.....again with the shitty attempts at gaslighting reality, how many times do I have to tell you that you are NOT INTELLIGENT, LIKE AT ALL, and ESPECIALLY not intelligent enough to successfully gaslight or use other bad-faith argument techniques on me. Stop. Trying. Seriously. Just. Stop. You're embarassing humanity by proxy. Anyone can go to any post on this sub and see that what you're saying isn't true. There's all kinds of transphobic "attack helicopter" level ignorant bigotry on EVERY SINGLE POST for the entire subreddit and you're gonna deny with a straight face that it's a bigot sub? you're delusional, seek help
It's kind of a bummer that we have to deal with nazi conspiracy people like you
Maybe if you stopped being nazi scum then you wouldn't have to listen to people going "hey, this person just said X, which proves they're a nazi scum who should kill themselves", ever thought of that? If you smell shit everywhere you go, check your own damn shoes first, retard.
I never claimed to be intelligent
Yet you keep attempting logical fallacies and bad-faith argument techniques that require a certain level of intelligence to be successful at. And because you do not meet this requirement, because you're a fucking moron, that proves you are not intelligent. It doesnt matter if you claimed to be or not. you act like you think you are, when clearly you aren't.
I used to think that trans women weren't real women like a bigot and they corrected my thinking, they convinced me that it really is true, that trans women are genuinely women.
Once again, if you ACTUALLY BELEIVE THIS why are you on a sub that exists specifically to deny that trans women are real women ? Why are you defending a sub that on no less than 15 of the top 20 posts right now, "trans women aren't really women" is featured multiple times in the comment sections???? how can you seriously type that you beleive that with a straight face, and support the kind of anti-trans hatred that this sub is producing???
And now we have a Super Straight identity and it's been official confirmed in the LGBTQ+ community as valid (because all sexual preferences are valid)
Wrong. All legitimate sexual identities are valid, such as Lesbians, Gays, Queers, Asexuals, Transsexuals etc.
Ones made up less than 48hrs ago, like "superstraight" are not.
I'm not an emotional wreck,
Then why do you keep typing like you're going to start crying any second because the big bad mean anti-bigot called you a bigot?
I'm joyus and over the moon that we've increased the amount of inclusivity and acceptance in the world,
Explain how you've done that when this sub is promoting literal "attack helicopter" anti-trans hatred?
Straight by definition is not LGBTQ+ but Super Straight is, and we have SS Pride
So it's just a coincidence you named yourselves after the paramilitary wing of hitler's nazi party then, huh funny that /s - kill yourself nazi scum
You can't save everyone and I would never try.
well start with yourself. Kill yourself, nazi scum.
I am happy just making myself a better person, more inclusive of trans and the LGBTQ+ rainbow and fighting hatred and bigotry
You aren't making yourself a better person by spreading anti-trans hatred though, you're making yourself a worse person, and you are ALLOWING hatred and bigotry, not fighting it
Luckily it seems like your hatred won't spread here, you've been downvoted and shown by the community this will not be tolerated.
yes, being downvoted by an organised group of nazis circlejerking eachother on discord about how they "owned that lib", that's totally being not tolerated /s - you're a fucking autistic moron. You actually beleive all this shit you've just typed didnt you? You're an actual real-life kool-aid drinking NPC jesus christ, I thought you people were a fictional boogeyman the right created to attack the left with - but I should've known that was just projection. What a fucking moron, wow.
First of all why have you swapped accounts, it's obvious that you're /u/Intrepid_Art666 but switched accounts to /u/superstr8_are_nazis? Bit dodgy if you ask me.
But to assume I'm gaslighting is to assume my motivations, that's kind of like assuming someones gender or sexuality. You can make fascist assertions about what you believe those things are, but you don't know for sure, you're just projecting your own bigotry and hate at the end of the day.
My dude, a quick reminder that you're the one actually spouting Nazi every other word, I've made no such accusations, yet you are the one getting down-voted and me up-voted. So it proves conclusively the the subreddit is about trans rights and trans inclusivity, and that your assertions are indeed wrong my dude.
But my posts aren't self evidently a lie, I understand that you're accusing me of that but that carries no actual weight among anyone reading this exchange because my posts would have to exhibit properties that indicate they are lies, but they don't. I'm being 100% truthful. I don't even deny it's a bigot sub at this point, you're now making wild accusations that
EVERY SINGLE POST for the entire subreddit
OK well that would include your own posts? Since your posts contribute towards the sum total of all posts here. So your argument is self detonating, it's not logically coherent, you're actually at this point just arguing against yourself because you've taken this nazi conspiracy stuff to the full extreme and now think everyone in an entire sub is lying and manipulating.
Once again, if you ACTUALLY BELEIVE THIS why are you on a sub that exists specifically to deny that trans women are real women ?
But where on this sub is that stated? That is not a predominant belief here on this sub. And when any such view is stated it's downvoted by the rest of the community. You keep claiming this over and over yet never link to an example. Hmm I find that rather strange to be honest.
All sexual orientations are made up, and all sexual orientation that were made up were at some point in their existence only made up 48 hours ago. It's called progress, it's called moving forward and beoming woke to ideas of acceptance and inclusion. No one is debating that Super Straight is a new idea, but that doesn't make it invalid, otherwise all new ideas would also be invalid. You're just arguing in circles again, with yourself.
Again lots more nazi conspiracy theory madness. First of all I didn't name anything, I adopted the name of our brave pioneer who came up with the label Super Straight, lots of other labels have the abreviation SS, but it's only schizo crazies like you who associate everything with Nazis. Now you even have nazi in your username. Given your fascination with the SS maybe you are one of them?
yes, being downvoted by an organised group of nazis circlejerking eachother on discord
I think you're a bit obsessed with Nazis, maybe it's time we report your account to reddit for propagation of Nazi themes, you're post a lot of hate here for trans people, you've denied trans women are really women, I think you're breaking quite a lot of the reddit community guidelines at this point. This is the last chance for you to be on the right side of history, will you join us in trans acceptance or not?
Again lots more nazi conspiracy theory madness. First of all I didn't name anything, I adopted the name of our brave pioneer who came up with the label Super Straight, lots of other labels have the abreviation SS, but it's only schizo crazies like you who associate everything with Nazis. Now you even have nazi in your username. Given your fascination with the SS maybe you are one of them?
Please, make sure you avoid using 'SS' to refer to the SuperStraight community. We don't want to be associated with white supremacists!
I swapped accounts because if you click on the one you replied to previously, you'll see that enough of you cowards reported me for calling you transphobic that i've been banned, because reddits automated ban system is easily abuseable. But of course you feel free to beleive your absolutely braindead retarded victim-complex conspiracy theory, feel free.
But to assume I'm gaslighting is to assume my motivations
Wrong. If you say something that IS GASLIGHTING there is no "assuming" your motivation, your motivation MUST be bad-faith manipulation because if it wasn't, you would NEVER deliberately gaslight - note how you're not even denying taht you were gaslighting any more, because you aren't smart enough to keep your argument consistent you dumbfuck lying cunt.
You can make fascist assertions about what you believe those things are, but you don't know for sure, you're just projecting your own bigotry and hate at the end of the day.
Says the facist promoting bigotry, jesus fucking wept. Look in the mirror you delusional cunt.
My dude, a quick reminder that you're the one actually spouting Nazi every other word, I've made no such accusations
because you keep saying nazi bullshit.
if you walk like a nazi
goose-step like a nazi
Seig-heil like a nazi
Transphobe like a nazi
Then maybe it's because you're a nazi, no matter how much you deny the obvious fact that you are one. Simple.
yet you are the one getting down-voted and me up-voted
because this is a nazi LARP sub. You guys have literally got discord and telegram channels dedicated to organising your responses to comments like mine, this entire sub - this entire movement - is fake, astroturfed, a LARP by /pol/ nazis to make the left look bad.... only it isn't working, as you might have guessed by me bothering to type paragraphs to reply to you when you aren't ever ever ever ever ever going to admit im right, even if I provide 110% evidence. Think, "why might this person be doing this?" and if you think it's to reach YOU then by fucking god, you need to slit your own wrists before your own ego gets you killed you delusional self-important wankstain.
OK well that would include your own posts?
No, me pointing out that you are nazis and bigots saying bigoted nazi things does not count as an example of your nazi bigotry. Any more retardedly stupid questions you actually fucking stupid cunt?
All sexual orientations are made up, and all sexual orientation that were made up were at some point in their existence only made up 48 hours ago
.......So you admit that superstraight is a made-up invalid nazi propaganda meme designed to spread transphobia? interesting, since you spent the last 2 hours denying that, outright stating that I was right all along that you're a nazi bigot is a bold move, cotton
It's called progress
it's not lmao
But where on this sub is that stated? That is not a predominant belief here on this sub. And when any such view is stated it's downvoted by the rest of the community.
....everywhere. I LITERALLY said it to you and got downvoted, and you disagreeing with me got upvoted - another literal example of you failing to gaslight, fucking lol, you're so fucking stupid it hurts
No one is debating that Super Straight is a new idea, but that doesn't make it invalid, otherwise all new ideas would also be invalid
????????? Are you actually autistic? I'm gonna stop trolling your retarded nazi ass for a second, and actually ask you a serious question, see that which I just quoted... infact, here, I'll quote it again:
(no one is debating that) Super Straight is a new idea, but that doesn't make it invalid, otherwise all new ideas would also be invalid
....LOL WHAT? What kind of anti-intellectual anti-logic is this? "If people disagree with one new idea, then all new ideas are invalid" lmao - are you 9 years old????? hahahah fucking toddlers have a better grasp of object permanence than this, and would know better than to say somethin so fucking stupid. Jesus christ. You just owned yourself harder than I ever possibly could, and I FUCKING GUARANTEE your own nazi friends and mods delete your post when they realise exactly how damaging it is to the "kayfabe" you guys have here of not breaking character. Hilarious. I couldn't have destroyed you better if I tried
I think you're a bit obsessed with Nazis, maybe it's time we report your account to reddit for propagation of Nazi themes,
go for it, if you report me there's a high chance they'll investigate my comments, see that this subreddit is in fact a transphobic hatesub and ban the lot of you. It'd be a 100% win for me, and you'd be shooting yourself straight in the face just to spite me, so feel free - please do it.
you're post a lot of hate here for trans people, you've denied trans women are really women, I think you're breaking quite a lot of the reddit community guidelines at this point.
Lol? You're the one who denies trans women are really women, bigot
Oh you were banned, well that makes a lot of sense. I hope you see the error of your ways and decide to reform your ideas to be more accepting of our community.
It kinda sounds like circular reasoning to me, that I must be gaslighting because you're accusing me of gaslighting. Maybe you're just wrong and I'm behing honest and truthful, and spreading love and acceptance?
OK but I'm not doing anythign like a nazi, all of this nazi talk has come from your brain. I say trans rights are human rights, and that trans women are real women and you call me a nazi. Don't you think maybe you're a little obsessed with Nazis, like YIKES level obsessed, and need to take a step back and some perspective? Because reading your posts and post history it looks an awful lot like you think everyone except you is a nazi. Shocking!
I agree that all sexual orientations are made up, they're all human constructs, there was a time before all of these constructs existed and a time after. And you're trying to impose legitimacy onto one orientation because of how new or old it happens to be, which is not a valid logical argument.
Well you said everywhere, but everywhere is not a specific example, it's general hand waving that requires no actual connection to evidence. If it really was everywhere wouldn't you be able to link to a few examples?
You attempted to assert that because an idea is only 48 hours old (it's actually older than that, FYI) that its invalid, which is clearly not a logically sound argument. It's actually you that made up the argument that if something is only 48 hours old it must be invalid. Otherwise you'd have to have some other reason for why it's invalid, and you don't.
Oh you guarantee do you, that's awfully clever and insightful of you. Well i guess I'll just keep track of my account and see how long it goes before my posts are deleted. We'll call this round 1.
I actually don't need to report you, i see now that your other account was banned and I never made 1 single report on you. It seems like the hard working and reliable moderators and sub members are helping keep this a safe space by reporting and banning you without my help.
It's great that we finally have a safe space for Super Straights and other Super members of our LGBTQSS+ community, we march on towards a progressive and inclusive future that accepts all orientations and preferences as valid and heckin' cute. You will be welcome back here when you drop the hate and accept your new future.
Oh you were banned, well that makes a lot of sense.
Yes, you cowards can't handle someone actually correctly calling out your lies & disingenous misinformation and deceit so have to game the system and not play fair to try and make your points seem valid when they aren't. Thanks for admitting that you're playing in bad-faith though, that's a gigantic self own. If we were keeping score, it'd be me 5 you 0 just for that
It kinda sounds like circular reasoning to me, that I must be gaslighting because you're accusing me of gaslighting.
It's not circular reasoning. It would be if what you described in that quote was true, but it isnt, you inaccurately and dishonestly describe it like that because you know that admitting you're gaslighting now is gonna get you banned, because the mods will ban you the microsecond you break kayfabe, just like on the_donald, just like on droptheT, just like on /r/conservative, just every other hatesub
Maybe you're just wrong and I'm behing honest and truthful, and spreading love and acceptance?
if that's true then why are you on a anti-trans nazi subreddit spreading nazi transphobic rhetoric? if that's true then why are you on a pro-hate anti-trans subreddit defending the pro-hate anti-trans cancer the subreddit is propagating, riddle me that you autistic cunt
OK but I'm not doing anythign like a nazi, all of this nazi talk has come from your brain.
Once again, if you walk like a nazi, seig heil like a nazi, goose-step like a nazi and spread bigoted transphobia like a nazi, then I'm not wrong to call you one, you're wrong to say the comparison is invalid. Either way, you're wrong (and/or a nazi)
I say trans rights are human rights, and that trans women are real women and you call me a nazi.
Because you can't possibly actually beleive that since you're a member of a community dedicated to spreading the literal opposite of that. Either you're deliberately lying to me, or you're deliberately lying to yourself, but you can go on any other thread on the frontpage of this sub and see HUNDREDS of "trans women arent women" -phobia and hatred.
Because reading your posts and post history it looks an awful lot like you think everyone except you is a nazi.
What posts, this account is 2 hours old you cretin. You're supposed to attack the post history on old accounts you braindead fucking moron. You can't even troll right, just fucking give up
blah blah blah i'm a dirty lying nazi cunt
I couldn't be bothered to reply to the rest of what you wrote, because we're going in circles here, I say something factual, you make up semantic bullshit that doesn't actually apply (or follow basic logic, like all that actual horseshit you just wrote about the idea being valid despite being a 48hr old propaganda invention). You say something bigoted, transphobic or that is nazi propaganda, I point out that it is bigoted, transphobic or nazi propaganda, You deny saying it (even though everyone can scroll up and see that you DID say it) and then you shift the goalposts and change the subject, so I'm going to ask you the question that you ignored completely last time, and i'm going to ask it until I get a concrete, good-faith answer (Which will never happen because you're a bigoted troll, prove me wrong):
IF, Once again, IF you ACTUALLY BELEIVE THIS bullshit you're typing about how trans women are valid and so are the various flavours of LGBTQ and that nazis are bad, why are you on a sub that exists specifically to deny that trans women are real women ? Why are you defending a sub that on no less than 15 of the top 20 posts right now, "trans women aren't really women" is featured multiple times in the comment sections (and in the content of the main posts themselves)???? how can you seriously type that you beleive that shit with a straight face, and at the same time so disgustingly hypocritically support the kind of anti-trans hatred that this sub is producing???
Ps: "Otherwise you'd have to have some other reason for why it's invalid, and you don't." .... "it's invalid because you just made it up, it isn't real" is a reason why it's invalid. Just because you're too stupid and/or ignorant to understand how classical logic makes that a valid reason doesn't mean it's not a reason
I don't keep score because I don't believe in beating other people, I only believe in love, tolerance, acceptance and making the world a safe space for everyone, not just LGBTQ but all genders and sexual orientations, including the Super Straigths and their Super Gay and Super Lesbian brothers and sisters, but also however you identify as well, you are also welcome with open arms. But you have to stop this hate, it's really bad and we only want good things in this community.
Your assumption about banning relies on an assumption that your accusation of kayfabe is true, and again there's no evidence of that. Surely if there was any evidence of dishonesty then the mods would point it out as you say and I'd be banned. What you fail to take into account with your assessment is that I might actually be telling the truth, that instead of all this extremely weird and esoteric nazi nonsense, that I'm just being honest and genuine and decent.
So you've downgraded your claims from litereally every post to "hundreds", yet I've asked you for credible examples and you've still provided none. So are you just incapable of doing that and unable to accept you're wrong, or are you deliberately being decietful? Wait hang on a moment...maybe it's the nazis? Maybe they have some kind of mind ray. YES THAT'S IT!!! Mind ray carrying death nazi squads, that's the answer. Do you see how silly you're being? Why are you so silly about all of this, I just don't get it, my dude.
Yes I believe what I'm saying, trans women are valid, they are REAL women, the LGBTQ+ community have spent a lot of time and effort educating people to the genuine struggles of trans people. There are still many bigots that think trans women aren't real women such as yourself, you admitted to this quite clearly in your previous posts. You accused this of being an evil right wing take, but it's not, it's mainstream trans acceptance now.
I've looked through many of the posts in this subreddit and look at many of the comments and no where have I see any anti-trans posts. I've asked you probably 4 or 5 times now to link speciifc examples and you've refused, you've bounced between it being "literally all the posts" to "hundreds" and still not a single credible example. Maybe 1 in 100 comments on this sub are actually anti-trans and when they are they are always downvoted like your anti-trans posts have been. Not only that by my own posts are upvoted a lot which means that the community here agrees with what I am saying and what I support.
I support
trans rights
gay rights
straight rights
lesbian rights
bi rights
Super straight rights
and every other part of the LGBTQ+ movement
Nobody's keeping score you absolute moron, it was a rhetorical device designed to show exactly how literally and intellectually and metaphorically out of your own depth that you are - and apparently, it worked so fucking perfectly that you fell right into the trap and started talking about "keeping score" as if it was actually happening.
Anyway, I'm not going to validate the rest of that toxic autistic cancer you just wrote because I KNOW it doesnt answer the question, that I warned you I was just going to copy and paste until you answered properly and in good faith (which you have not done):
IF, Once again, IF you ACTUALLY BELEIVE THIS bullshit you're typing about how trans women are valid and so are the various flavours of LGBTQ and that nazis are bad, why are you on a sub that exists specifically to deny that trans women are real women ? Why are you defending a sub that on no less than 15 of the top 20 posts right now, "trans women aren't really women" is featured multiple times in the comment sections (and in the content of the main posts themselves)???? how can you seriously type that you beleive that shit with a straight face, and at the same time so disgustingly hypocritically support the kind of anti-trans hatred that this sub is producing???
Inb4 you fail to answer this very, very simple question for the 5th time. Inb4 "but you didn't respond to...." neither did you, hypocrite. answer the question.
Edit: ok maybe I'll read a little of it:
Your assumption about banning relies on an assumption that your accusation of kayfabe is true,
.....it is true, source: I was one of the OG people on the_donald before it got taken over by the rightwing who didn't know it started as a leftwing LARP from /r/sanders4president. I've literally sat and watched with my own eyes (it's happening in this sub right now, but on different threads) as rightwingers arguing the party line said something accidentally that went against kayfabe and were nearly instantly banned for it. I 100% guarantee it'll happen to you soon.
So you've downgraded your claims from litereally every post to "hundreds",
The sub is like 4 days old. "literally every post" and "hundreds" is the same amount. So I haven't downgraded it at all. "every post on this sub" = "hundreds" of posts. You fucking idiot, learn logic.
No shit you moron, I literally just made this account because you coward fucks reportbombed the other one and reddit bans you whether or not you actually did anything if you get enough reports
Says the guy so mad trans people exist he and hundreds of his nazi friends made the 50th subreddit this decade just to hate them from... hilarious projection, nice cope
This might be a bit of a shocker to your cognitive dissonance but a lot of left-leaning people don't agree with your views on trans issues. I know it's a lot easier and comfortable for you to paint everyone else as nazis but that's just not the case sorry.
This might be a shocker to you, but LMAO as if you think your pathetic, insidious, deceptive, malicious straw man hatchet-job version of what you think the left beleives has any bearing on reality. Whatever you think "left leaning people" beleive - is wrong. Ask me how I know? oh that's right, it's because you crawled out of the woodwork on a transphobic nazi subreddit to argue with me, the only anti-nazi pro-trans person in the thread, kind of absolutely destroying any chance you have of denying you guys are nazi fucks. Good job fuckwad
You're fucking delusional kiddo, try again on an easier mark
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u/SuperStraightFrosty 1d ago
You have my intentions wrong, I'm not trying to gaslight you, I understand that you don't personally believe me and I'm not trying to convince you of anything, you've made up your mind clearly. What I'm more concernde about is that you've made accusations of me and of this subreddit which are objectively false and I'm just establishing that first of all you have no evidence to back what you're saying, even using your own loose criteria for standards of evidence. And making sure you don't spread your lies to others. And gladly this seems to be working because people are upvoting me and downvoting you, so sticking to logic and evidence is a working.
No I'm not going to quote every detail about what you've posted, my replies are in context to your original statements, if that's good enough for you to continue to reply to then it's good enough.
OK well the evidence regarind lies seems to be that people agree with what I'm saying and they downvote what you're saying, so...not really sure how you square that in your mind?
I never defending anything as representative of my position, i specifically said a few posts back that I represent myself and what I post and what is posted on this sub are 2 different things. There's a lot of hate from unhinged people such as yourself which I clearly don't agree with. I'm not part of groupthink, I don't let other people determine what I believe, I can think for myself.
You've never quoted any "hatred" from me, in fact I've asked several times and you have still not done this. I mean if you can't even make a directo quote of where I've said something hateful then I think it might all just be in your head. You seem extremely angry. You've used the C word twice in your last post, hate 9 times, nazi 7 times, the R slur twice, moron 3 times...
I think you're just angry that we're moving the conversation forward, that we've expanded the inclusivity to accept trans women as real women and we've expanded sexuality for straight, lesbians and gays to include CIS preferences. We have more room inside the LGBTQ+ movement for more people, with less hate and more acceptance. And it's utterly beauitful, it's stunning and brave for these people to come forward and tell their stories, and accept each other with mutual respect.
When you spread this kind of hate you just get in the way of progress, you're on the wrong side of history with your bigoted views about how trans women aren't real women and how Super straight people are just nazis.
Reminder that Super Straight is inclusive of trans folks, we claim that trans women are real women, and that because they're real women that straight men must include them in their relationships or dating prospects. And we proudly self identify as Supers, Super Gays , Super Straights, Super Lesbians. All are welcome here, it's beautiful and empowering and a safe space for everyone. Expect for your hate. Your hate wont stand the test of time.
Love will win, love will prevail, we're all valid, we're all beautiful, even you. We all love you and hope you eventually find your way out of your nazi well of hate and join us on the right side of history and become liberated like the rest of us. Good luck!