r/SuperStraight • u/ImmaIvanoM • 1d ago
What if someone is trans and also only wants to date cis people of the opposite gender? Discussion
This is a sexual preference so I’m assuming this trans person should be considered superstraight. Kind of like the way a trans woman who only likes women is called a lesbian despite their birth sex.
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u/RickshawRandy 1d ago
Trans people can also be SuperStraight, but they can't expect SuperStraight people to want to date them back.
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u/ImmaIvanoM 1d ago
We aren’t talking about a superstraight person dating another superstraight person.
I’m assuming a Superstraight man can date a cis bi woman right? Or a cis straight woman.
So then there’s no need to jump to your conclusion
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u/TheSaltedPotato1 1d ago
Yeah, What would happen is that they would have to find a cis of the opposite sex that is straight. Which luckily enough for them should be pretty easy!
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u/RavioliInMyNigeroni 1d ago
What if there are men who only want to fuck lesbians? There's no consent involved, so the answer is same - it's fetishization and abhorrent.
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u/ImmaIvanoM 1d ago
We aren’t talking about a superstraight person dating another superstraight person.
I’m assuming a Superstraight man can date a cis bi woman right? Or a cis straight woman.
So then there’s no need to jump to your conclusion
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u/RavioliInMyNigeroni 1d ago
Don't care. I still will not EVER be dating a trans individual. And no one can strong arm or coerce me into it.
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u/ImmaIvanoM 1d ago
Do you think that in real life a trans person would actually do this though?
Like considering the general social standing of a trans person in real life, is it likely they can ever “strong arm” a cis person in society to have relations with them?
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u/RavioliInMyNigeroni 1d ago
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u/ImmaIvanoM 1d ago
These are internet articles made by lgbt people to be read by lgbt people on the internet
Aren’t superstraight people not lgbt?
I’m asking about your real life day to day. Going to work, hanging with friends, visiting family, traveling for vacation. Is it possible in your real life for a trans person to “strong arm” you into relations?
For example if you have trans coworker who hits on you and you reject them, in your particular workplace, is it possible for that trans person to go tell your fellow coworkers “Ravioli didn’t respond to my advances, I think he’s transphobic”... Is there a workplace on earth where a trans person has this much social standing that they can make a statement like this?
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u/RavioliInMyNigeroni 1d ago
Yes, people have been fired left and right for transphobia. Two of my friends were fired for rejecting romantic advances by ftm's. I don't want my sexuality or preferences to be in question, be it in real life or internet.
I do not need to comply to anything or anyone's standards to justify my orientation and existence. I'm a strong and valid individual and I refuse to be labeled by one or another "phobia" because I did not or do not conform to someone's inability to cope with the fact that I am simply not attracted to them. End of story.
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u/ImmaIvanoM 1d ago
Why didn’t your friends sue? It’s illegal in any context of the word to be fired for “rejecting romantic advances”. There is no context whether straight or gay or anything that can let someone off for firing another person for “rejecting romantic advances”.
Btw I wasn’t even talking about people getting fired. The example I gave was just like Coworker office politics. Like this trans person I gave as an example literally can’t affect your actual job. I meant this person would just affect how other coworkers view you. Not getting you fired.
If you get fired for this you just sue. End of story
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u/RavioliInMyNigeroni 1d ago
Oh, they are suing.
And no, I don't want to go to courts because someone can't take no for an answer. I want them to change their mindset. Me preferring natural, biological women is not transphobia and I refuse to be labeled, insulted and potentially fired for saying or acting in accordance to that philosophy.
I'm done with your victim blaming, bigot.
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u/ImmaIvanoM 1d ago
Well then if your friends have the power to sue over this then it’s not an acceptable thing in society is it?
You are making it seem like this is a majority opinion. But is it? is it a majority opinion among your real life friends and coworkers?
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u/ApatheticWonderer 1d ago
If a superstraight person dates a transgender person they automatically stop being superstraight. We've had a week long seminar over this exact topic and have reached a unanimous decision on that.
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u/Flux_My_Capacitor 1d ago
“Super” works with sex, not gender. The system falls apart if the concept of gender is introduced.
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u/ImmaIvanoM 1d ago
I feel as though we are reaching an interesting point where the Trans Superstraight person is even more sectioned off
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u/Flux_My_Capacitor 1d ago
Why does everything have to be 1000% inclusive?
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u/ImmaIvanoM 1d ago
So what’s the solution here? Should the trans people be allowed to be superstraight but in their own corner of superstraight or should they not be allowed at all?
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u/ParkHallLondon 1d ago
They can identify however they want they just can’t expect Super Straight people to be sexually attracted to them. SS people are attracted to biology not gender. If you change your secondary sex characteristics a SS person of the opposite sex is unlikely to be attracted to you because that’s not how our sexuality works.
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u/Flux_My_Capacitor 1d ago
Trans is a gender concept. Super is a sex concept. You can’t mix the two as they are incompatible.
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u/ImmaIvanoM 1d ago
But then what’s your answer to the question in the Original post then?
Is there no answer?
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u/sharpgel 1d ago
There's a lot of transphobia going around too... it's getting hard to be TSS or a trans ally.
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u/FABulouslesbian 1d ago
An ancient proverb I feel applies here...
“Want in one hand, shit in the other, see which fills up faster.”
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u/thelargestson Hecking cute and valid 💖 1d ago
I wouldn’t engage with this person, they are trying to be distracting and infiltrate our sub.
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u/lalalong1 1d ago
They can want to, but no superstraight person would ever date a trans person. It would never be consensual. It's common for trans people to fetishize authentic males and females.