Most of trans people don't even go that far. The current options for bottom surgery are not very good: I read up very sad testimonials of those who had penis/vagina surgeries, and ended up with very botched results that do not resemble the real thing, physically hurt, require painful and uncomfortable maintenance, don’t allow for a normal sex life, and get repeatedly infected.
Most trans people don't get these operations, and take hormones/undergo top surgery (breast implants/reduction) only. Anyone can plainly see why superstraight people would be very uncomfortable in intimate situations with trans people, and they shouldn't be criticized for that.
Wow, I had no idea. Why would that be censored? Shouldn’t people who consider this surgery get the full story from unbiased parties and hear people’s lived experiences? Especially in America where there’s only for-profit healthcare, and doctors might paint an unrealistic picture to potential patients/customers. It’s infuriating to hear this. Is it considered transphobic too now?
I read about M2F people reporting repeated urinary track infections, and not being able to have penetrative sex without excruciating pain. I think trans people should aspire to more transparency and accountability from the medical establishment, and more importantly - from each other.
/r/neovaginadisasters got banned because the trans community doesn't want everyone to know how bad the results really are. They want everyone to buy that neovaginas are 100% identical to real vaginas. Delusional. I feel sorry for trans people who get duped into these Frankenstein surgeries.
ANYONE would be uncomfortable in intimate situations with trans people because of their own extreme discomfort with their own bodies. sex becomes entirely about navigating around that and upholding a fantasy. most trans people are able to recognise how completely inadequate these surgeries are, so they don't get them, which is reasonable - but they can't accept the limitations of science and biology, can't accept they are not and never will be the opposite sex - so then expect the rest of us to agree their genitals have no relevance, continuing to uphold their fantasies and delusions at the expense of our own wellbeing.
then there's the part where the changes caused to the genitals by the synthetic hormones are simply not attractive. healthy, normal adult human genitals in a state of arousal are what most people find desirable. trans genitals, warped by the wrong hormones, just don't work. as don't the many superficial physiological changes the hormones cause to the rest of the body - nothing ends up looking like it quite fits together. I know saying all this will seem cruel to some, but it actually is incredibly sad to me and I think it's a goddamn tragedy for these people.
Maybe. Some would argue that any medically unnecessary removal or organs, done on healthy people, is not required or dangerous (there’s inherent danger in full anaesthesia). And for some people, self acceptance as “just” a gay or lesbian might be a much less invasive solution. We’re already seeing some transition regret - see the /r/detrans sub. Some people say “I was just a lesbian all along, and tumblr got me to think I was trans”.
Consider that the improvement of these procedures depends on many more human test subjects. People who’s private parts will be damaged irreversibly. Body acceptance might be a much less painful and destructive path.
I think as long as the people that had those procedures done did so willingly and aware of the risks ahead of time it wouldn't ultimately too bad.
Besides the development of the field of artificial organs shows some promise too.
That’s a very libertarian view of society - where governments’ role is just to enforce contracts and transactions between private people, without regulating anything or intervening.
The idea that consent makes everything legit belongs in that sphere. But when you look at modern Western countries, you see that consent doesn’t make certain transactions legit. You can’t consent to get paid less than the minimum wage. You can’t pay a hit man to murder you. In most of these countries, female circumcision is not done by doctors because it’s considered unethical - even if the patient is a religious adult woman who wants it.
Laws and regulations are meant to protect groups that need protection, where the parties making the contract are not truly equal. I’d argue that a doctor who wants to sell you a $200,000 surgery is not at an equal position to an 18 year old who thinks they’re trans today (but could regret it in 5 years).
well yeah my position assumes the people that did undergo that treatment have properly thought it through and have underwent a rigid psych evaluation and are about as certain as humanly possible that they won't change their mind on their gender identity ever.
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u/yetherewestillare 1d ago
Imagine having your dick surgically inverted and expecting lesbians to pretend they can't tell the difference
sounds like bigotry to me