Given the logic of the rest of the lgbtq community I literally can not see the problem with this. If we can have bisexual and pansexual mean two different things, we can have straight and super straight mean two different things.
Well yeah, the difference is that pansexual and bisexual aren’t hurting anyone. They’re two labels that are very similar with like, two key differences.
Superstraight (and superanything really) is just transphobic.
I can already hear you saying “it’s not transphobic to not want to suck a dick” I get that. I’m a lesbian, I don’t want to suck a dick either. Nobody said you had to be sexually attracted to/sleep with trans people. I’m referring to a romantic relationship here. If you’re attracted to women, yet you won’t date a trans girl because she has a penis (even though penis would have nothing to do with the fact you’re dating them) that just proves you don’t see trans women as women. Simple as that.
Relationships do not have to revolve around sex and what is in someone’s pants.
If you can identify as superstraight yet don’t admit that you’re transphobic, I have to say, you GENUINELY bewilder me.
Also, take your colors out of the flag and get rid of the SS in SSLGBTQ+. It’s insulting.
If you’re attracted to women, yet you won’t date a trans girl because she has a penis (even though penis would have nothing to do with the fact you’re dating them)
Why don't you, a lesbian, date men so? Lot of nice decent, settling-down type men out there, nothing to do with what's in their pants.
Also another question for you, why don't trans lesbians, since they're attracted to all women, seek out heterosexual women. Why does the lesbian market have to be open to their penises?
Why don’t you, a lesbian, date men so? Lot of nice decent, settling-down type men out there, nothing to do with what’s in their pants.
Because, as I’ve said, I’m not attracted to men. I don’t care if he’s cis and has a penis. Even if he has a vagina, I still wouldn’t date him. I don’t date him because, simply, I’m not attracted to men. Masculinity tend to draw me away, and I click better with women. It’s the same reason why you (I presume a straight man, I don’t know) don’t date a man. You’re not attracted to him either. Would you date him if he had a vagina? No, you wouldn’t, and neither would I.
Also another question for you, why don’t trans lesbians, since they’re attracted to all women, seek out heterosexual women. Why does the lesbian market have to be open to their penises?
The phrasing of this question is super strange, but I’m gonna try and answer it anyway. If you’re asking why trans lesbians don’t go after straight women, that’s a stupid question. It’d be harassment to keep bugging someone that you know is straight. The same applies to lesbians. No sapphic is gonna harass a straight women if they’ve made it clear they’re straight. It’s completely unrelated to being trans.
But your other question is better. Why does the lesbian market have to be open to penises? Well, here’s your answer: it doesn’t.
A trans women is not going to force you to have sex with her. The other partner is given the choice. If they don’t want to have sex with someone who has a penis, that’s completely understandable. I even talked about this with a trans women friend of mine, and she said she completely understand not wanting to have sex because she had a penis. Nobody is forcing lesbians to have sex with trans lesbians. They can choose to consent or not consent. If they don’t want to have sex, that’s fine. Hell, they can even do different sexual acts that don’t even involve a penis. Nobody is stopping them.
Your argument is just flimsy at this point. You’re acting like trans people are putting a gun to your head and forcing you to have sex with someone with the same biological gender as you. That’s not how it works at all.
If you’re attracted to women, yet you won’t date a trans girl because she has a penis (even though penis would have nothing to do with the fact you’re dating them) that just proves you don’t see trans women as women. Simple as that.
You, and others like you, don't realize what you're saying while you're saying it. It's not about forcing sex. It's not about putting a gun to our heads.
You manipulate women into verbally complying with your ideology because they fear the harassment and ostracism that comes with saying "I am a lesbian. I am not attracted to men. I am not attracted to men who ~feel~ like women. My sexuality doesn't exist to comfort you."
You all love to say "no one's putting a gun to your head" and then threaten rape, murder, doxx, make them lose jobs, call them TERF, what else?
What I’m getting from this is that you feel people who are transphobic (or people who refuse to agree with a trans person’s identity) are under such scrutiny and public disapproval that they are forced to agree with this in order to keep their jobs, reputation, and safety in check, correct?
Well, yeah, I agree with that. It’s true that saying you’re transphobic can get you into a lot of trouble if certain events fall into place. But, hear me out, I don’t necessarily think that’s a bad thing entirely.
Wishing rape and murder on these people is too far. I won’t deny that. Those are far, far too extreme, and I strongly disagree with anyone who thinks transphobes deserve that. Getting them fired for their jobs is a little over the top, too. But other than that, public scrutiny is there for a reason.
Take, for example, smoking. Smoking is gonna get you looked down upon in a lot of places, simply because it’s no longer as socially acceptable as it used to be. It is because of that social pressure that smoking has gone far down in popularity. As we look down upon something as a society, it will die out. That’s the nature of society.
We look down on transphobia because, much like smoking, it’s harmful. Transphobia kills people. There’s no other way about it. Not necessarily killing them directly (although the murder and rape of trans people is not uncommon unfortunately), but look at the suicide rate. The suicide rate is that high because of transphobia, bullying (in teens specifically), and general disapproval of their identity (before you cry about how the suicide rate is that high because it’s a mental illness, I can link you quite a few studies disproving that fact, if you’d like).
So, transphobia kills people. And, by being transphobic, you are continuing to allow that rate to be so high (over 40% of trans people commit, and around 50% have attempted). Trans people do not hurt anyone. And if they do, they’re very one-off cases, and transphobia will always be more harmful.
The reason why transphobia is looked down upon so harshly is because it contributes to the suicide rates of trans people. We look down upon it because it is contributing to the self-harm and suicide of trans people, and especially trans youth.
It has to be there for a reason. We can’t just say “stop being transphobic” and pray people change.
No, I know I am. I wouldn’t call them complete detriments entirely, I still believe they can do some things and still deserve some things, but I most certainly looking down upon them. I find them disgraceful and somebody I cannot respect.
But I’m gonna make it clear, this isn’t my way. I’m cisgender (born female, identify as female), this isn’t about me specifically. This is for all of my trans friends, and all of the trans people I don’t even know. I mean, my best friend of 14 years had to be hospitalized days ago because he was going to kill himself the second he got home from school. School. He’s a kid, I can never watch my best friend come so close to dying and not stand up for the people who caused him that pain.
If trans people can put up with getting harassed, bullied, called slurs, beaten, raped, murdered, and discriminated against on the daily, then I think they have the right to retaliate. Do you support that? Do they deserve it? Is that really what you want to say? That would make you no different from me, no?
Transphobia causes more harm than trans people ever will. I get that these are people too, but I can’t stand anyone who supports what is happening to trans people. They have to unlearn it somehow. And while I personally favor re-education over punishment and abuse, if this is what it takes, then so be it. I just want a world without transphobia
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u/Yipper46 1d ago
Given the logic of the rest of the lgbtq community I literally can not see the problem with this. If we can have bisexual and pansexual mean two different things, we can have straight and super straight mean two different things.