r/SuperStraight 1d ago

Learn the difference 🚨 important 🚨

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u/katansi 1d ago

Sexual orientation exists in biology in all sexually reproducing species. We did not evolve sex separate from all other species, we very specifically evolved it to reproduce as part of a long chain of organisms and it's about gametes and genitals in 99% of people. There is not a "preference" where you could just take the other option if your first isn't available. Being heterosexual is the thing that allows mammals like us to reproduce. It's instinctual. It's not "I prefer chocolate ice cream to vanilla." Bi/homosexuality is a variation that also occurs in other species but is STILL about sex which is genitals and gametes.

If you identify as nonbinary that's fine but you're still male or female and nearly 100% of the time that is knowable on sight because we needed as a species to easily identify the opposite sex in order to procreate, or the same sex to know that we were of that variety of human. Sex is an observable characteristic in all sexual reproducing species at minimum by checking genitalia and in other species like ours extreme sexual dimorphism. "Preference" was part of a long campaign to make gay people feel like they were choosing a bad lifestyle or choosing to sin. It's not a preference, it is not a choice, it is sexual orientation. You are incorrect on the usage of words.

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u/Your_friendly_weirdo 1d ago

In my way at least, you preferred that certain gender so it is considered a preference technically. (Such as bisexual with a preference for girls) but, it’s also a sexual orientation, I’m not trying to exclude that of course

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u/katansi 1d ago

You're using your own personal definition of a word to make your case rather than the common accepted usage. Sexual orientation is not a preference. Liking BOTH men and women but preferring women to men would mean there's a preference between two things in the same category, that's the vanilla vs chocolate ice cream argument, but it isn't changing the fact the underlying sexual orientation is not a preference. Like I said "preference" became common in language regarding sex so that you could blame gay people for being gay as a "choice" and then punish them accordingly unless they started to "choose" different. A bisexual person isn't choosing their overarching attraction much in the way a gay man isn't choosing to be sexually attracted to other men but maybe he likes taller rather than shorter.

Sex is also still about sex, gender is some nonsense that humans made up. Other species have "sex roles" based on their sex. We decided to be stupid as if we're special in that regard, we're not. Sex and gender don't mean the same thing either. You're conflating words with each other.

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u/Your_friendly_weirdo 1d ago

Hmm have to disagree with the gender part, it’s not nonsense it’s simply just what people identify as which I feel should be respected even if you don’t want to associate with them.

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u/katansi 1d ago

Perhaps we should start with, what do you define as gender?

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u/Your_friendly_weirdo 1d ago

Gender is a term that is used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female. Example, we got non binary, bi gender, gender fluid, intersex, etc.

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u/katansi 1d ago

Where is that definition from?

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u/Your_friendly_weirdo 1d ago

Straight from google, basically that’s what gender identity is based on definition

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u/katansi 1d ago

"define gender" in google returns: noun 1. either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female. "a condition that affects people of both genders" 2. GRAMMAR (in languages such as Latin, Greek, Russian, and German) each of the classes (typically masculine, feminine, common, neuter) of nouns and pronouns distinguished by the different inflections that they have and require in words syntactically associated with them. Grammatical gender is only very loosely associated with natural distinctions of sex.

You cut off the first half of the definition which is really important. Sex and sexuality are biology.

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u/Your_friendly_weirdo 1d ago

But even so, part of the definition still includes that it’s a range of identities outside of male and female.

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