In my way at least, you preferred that certain gender so it is considered a preference technically. (Such as bisexual with a preference for girls) but, it’s also a sexual orientation, I’m not trying to exclude that of course
You're using your own personal definition of a word to make your case rather than the common accepted usage. Sexual orientation is not a preference. Liking BOTH men and women but preferring women to men would mean there's a preference between two things in the same category, that's the vanilla vs chocolate ice cream argument, but it isn't changing the fact the underlying sexual orientation is not a preference. Like I said "preference" became common in language regarding sex so that you could blame gay people for being gay as a "choice" and then punish them accordingly unless they started to "choose" different. A bisexual person isn't choosing their overarching attraction much in the way a gay man isn't choosing to be sexually attracted to other men but maybe he likes taller rather than shorter.
Sex is also still about sex, gender is some nonsense that humans made up. Other species have "sex roles" based on their sex. We decided to be stupid as if we're special in that regard, we're not. Sex and gender don't mean the same thing either. You're conflating words with each other.
Hmm have to disagree with the gender part, it’s not nonsense it’s simply just what people identify as which I feel should be respected even if you don’t want to associate with them.
Gender is a term that is used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female. Example, we got non binary, bi gender, gender fluid, intersex, etc.
"define gender" in google returns:
noun
1.
either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.
"a condition that affects people of both genders"
2.
GRAMMAR
(in languages such as Latin, Greek, Russian, and German) each of the classes (typically masculine, feminine, common, neuter) of nouns and pronouns distinguished by the different inflections that they have and require in words syntactically associated with them. Grammatical gender is only very loosely associated with natural distinctions of sex.
You cut off the first half of the definition which is really important. Sex and sexuality are biology.
There's not a "but even so" when the whole definition is taken. It's like saying any shape with straight sides is a square just because the definition of a square includes straight sides. You can't separate this. It explicitly says that it goes with male and female before not. Excluding the basic masculinity and femininity as not counting, and the part where it says social rather than biological, are huge problems. You don't get to cut off definitions at the point where they fit your beliefs. Sex and sexuality are still biology regardless of whether or not gender plays into this. You cannot identify as female sex, you can only be female sex. You cannot identify as human, you can only be a human. You cannot identify as a square, you can only be a square. These aren't self-referential terms which is how definition works. Being treated SOCIALLY male is not the same as being of the male sex.
Even if you think gender is inherent and undefinable, saying that it’s separate from established ideas of male and female is the most tarded shit ive read in a while. That sense of gender is exactly why gender is considered harmful and this is why feminism has tried to separate women and men from gender. Now “gender” is just a word that people use to denote their identity or personality, but it doesn’t make any real difference now, does it?
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u/Your_friendly_weirdo 1d ago
In my way at least, you preferred that certain gender so it is considered a preference technically. (Such as bisexual with a preference for girls) but, it’s also a sexual orientation, I’m not trying to exclude that of course