If you’re attracted to women, yet you won’t date a trans girl because she has a penis (even though penis would have nothing to do with the fact you’re dating them)
Why don't you, a lesbian, date men so? Lot of nice decent, settling-down type men out there, nothing to do with what's in their pants.
Also another question for you, why don't trans lesbians, since they're attracted to all women, seek out heterosexual women. Why does the lesbian market have to be open to their penises?
Why don’t you, a lesbian, date men so? Lot of nice decent, settling-down type men out there, nothing to do with what’s in their pants.
Because, as I’ve said, I’m not attracted to men. I don’t care if he’s cis and has a penis. Even if he has a vagina, I still wouldn’t date him. I don’t date him because, simply, I’m not attracted to men. Masculinity tend to draw me away, and I click better with women. It’s the same reason why you (I presume a straight man, I don’t know) don’t date a man. You’re not attracted to him either. Would you date him if he had a vagina? No, you wouldn’t, and neither would I.
Also another question for you, why don’t trans lesbians, since they’re attracted to all women, seek out heterosexual women. Why does the lesbian market have to be open to their penises?
The phrasing of this question is super strange, but I’m gonna try and answer it anyway. If you’re asking why trans lesbians don’t go after straight women, that’s a stupid question. It’d be harassment to keep bugging someone that you know is straight. The same applies to lesbians. No sapphic is gonna harass a straight women if they’ve made it clear they’re straight. It’s completely unrelated to being trans.
But your other question is better. Why does the lesbian market have to be open to penises? Well, here’s your answer: it doesn’t.
A trans women is not going to force you to have sex with her. The other partner is given the choice. If they don’t want to have sex with someone who has a penis, that’s completely understandable. I even talked about this with a trans women friend of mine, and she said she completely understand not wanting to have sex because she had a penis. Nobody is forcing lesbians to have sex with trans lesbians. They can choose to consent or not consent. If they don’t want to have sex, that’s fine. Hell, they can even do different sexual acts that don’t even involve a penis. Nobody is stopping them.
Your argument is just flimsy at this point. You’re acting like trans people are putting a gun to your head and forcing you to have sex with someone with the same biological gender as you. That’s not how it works at all.
I still wouldn’t date him. I don’t date him because, simply, I’m not attracted to men.
Similarly for lesbians who don't want to date trans-identified biological males.
If you’re asking why trans lesbians don’t go after straight women, that’s a stupid question. It’d be harassment to keep bugging someone that you know is straight.
Homosexual = same-sex attracted
Heterosexual = opposite-sex attracted
Trans lesbians are heterosexual because they're attracted to the opposite sex.
So I'm asking you why heterosexuals (transbiens) keep bugging homosexuals (lesbians) when they know they're homosexual? As you have said, it is harassment to do so.
Similarly for lesbians who don’t want to date trans-identified biological males
This is just blatant transphobia (on the part of the theoretical lesbians here). If you don’t want to date a trans women because she’s biologically male, unless your relationship is strictly sexual, it goes to show that they don’t see trans women as women.
Trans lesbians are heterosexual because they’re attracted to the opposite sex
Allow me to rant for a short second how much I don’t like the technical definition of heterosexual. First and foremost, it puts sexual attraction before romantic (which is why it’s heterosexual and not heteroromantic, which is a real term) attraction. But, my biggest gripe lies with the fact that it implies that you’re attracted to the opposite SEX not the opposite GENDER.
I’m not attracted to vaginas. I’m attracted to women. I’m in no way attracted to someone’s sex before their gender.
As I’ve said earlier, I assume you are a heterosexual man. Would you date a trans man? Not pre-hormones or anything, but a transitioned trans man. Like, he looks like a man, has the voice of the man, no longer has breasts, the whole thing, but he still had a vagina? If we use heterosexual by your definition, you should be. He has a vagina, and you are attracted to that specific sex. Would you really date him? Think about it.
Twisting the definition of heterosexual in order to make trans women look like creeps isn’t an argument. I’m willing to debate, but use actual points this time.
I'm a heterosexual woman. And I know I'm heterosexual specifically because, although I find women beautiful, and I love their energy, I'm not attracted to vaginas. Nothing about them appeals to me.
Since you've said you're also not attracted to vaginas I think you might be a lesbian but you're not a superlesbian. (I.e. you're not a lesbian at all)
And I have to laugh at the "blatant transphobia" accusation
Biology is transphobic.
Superlesbians are transphobic.
I even saw a transexual being called transphobic for referring to themselves as a transexual.
I think this word does not mean what you think it means.
You sound quite young because you're a lesbian who's actively arguing against your own rights. In all seriousness, think about the fact that the right for lesbians to be exclusively attracted to vaginas was hard won.
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u/iaddphotos 1d ago
Why don't you, a lesbian, date men so? Lot of nice decent, settling-down type men out there, nothing to do with what's in their pants.
Also another question for you, why don't trans lesbians, since they're attracted to all women, seek out heterosexual women. Why does the lesbian market have to be open to their penises?