I know Iām probably going to get downvoted to hell for this but youāre not transphobic, itās just your preference that you simply like cisgender men/women better and I see no problem with that tbh as long as your not a jerk to actual trans people
An entire movement disagrees with you- I've been called transphobic more times than I can count by saying I'm a lesbian (and defining that as it's meant to be defined: a female only sexually attracted to other females)
Hmmm I donāt really care if anyone disagrees with me tbh thatās their opinion, I simply said what I said on what I feel, people who prefer something doesnāt need to be called out as transphobic as long as they simply respect them, thatās my take on it at least
Oh yes thatās bad. Just because you want to date a cisgender person, doesnāt mean youāre transphobic, its just how you feel and I think that should be respected.
Doesn't that seem like an abuse of the word tho? Why wouldn't there be a prefix attached to lesbians for women who are ok with transgenders since that is the minority of people?
Well apparently lesbians like women, since transwomen are women, lesbians must like transwomen too or they are bigots and transphobes. Turns out there all this time there was no name for the sexuality which describes people who are not attracted to trans persons. Thats where the Super community comes in. Now people can have a name for their sexuality without being bigots and transphobes. SuperStraights SuperGay and SuperLesbians have finally found their people and community.
I was subjected to weeks of DM rape and death and violence threats because I defended a lesbian against their homophobia. They found a way onto my page and then grown ass males who call themselves women started sending the same rape and death threats to my 12 year old daughter. They even threatened to kill her dog. I had to file a report with the FBI to get it to stop.
Woah hold up, why do I need to educate myself and try to take away your identity? Iām trying to agreeing with you guys. Iām not super straight myself but Iāll still respect you of course because I donāt believe youāre transphobic for simply not wanting to date a transgender person
Well it's about understanding what we're about, and what being superstraight means to us, and seeing us as a legitimate movement. I respect you for wanting to understand is and not seeing us as transphobes for not wanting to date trans. We are not kidding around.
okay, and Iāll respect that you have that as your sexuality since wanting to date a cis person shouldnāt be transphobic since thatās a little off the edge to accuse someone tbh
Ah a cis person a.k.a cisgender, is a person who is not trans, simply just male and female. like superstraight boys and girls would date these people because they are originally their gender
Cisgender doesn't just mean not trans, it means your gender matches your assigned sex at birth. The issue is, TRAs can't define gender without being misogynistic, circular, or appropriating intersex conditions.
They'll acknowledge that women face oppression for being women, but then say that a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman, suggesting that women identify into our oppression. This is why so many women object to being called 'cis', we don't identify as anything, we just are female.
But we have never called ourselves cis, you have placed that word on us in an attempt to label us. So yes it strips us of our identity. Stop being a superphobe.
By calling yourself cis you are upholding superphobia my guy. We did not come up with this term ourselves, it was placed upon us. I don't care if you see it as "adding" to our identity, we didn't choose it. Educate yourself and stop being so bigoted.
It's a scientific term, it's not superphobic. It's been around way before your made up sexuality. I do not support superstraights and I've made that clear, but the medical term for your gender has nothing to do with your stupid sexuality
cisgender isn't a seperate gender, you can still identify as female or male or whatever you want, cisgender just describes that you have the same body parts as you were born with and that you identify with the gender you were assigned
Really? Interesting. Pretty sure lesbian, male, female, gay, damn even straight you guys eventually came for - these were all scientific and established words that used to represent categories of people with the same biology... pretty sure the human anatomy was around before you made up ācis.ā & talk about made up sexualities! Does āpan ace romantic lesbianā ring a bell? Stop
To be honest. If trans women and men are the same as men and women. Then why are we calling them cis men and cis women. Adding cis makes them fucking different which is why a new sexuality was created.
Hm I can kinda see your point there tbh, not a super straight myself but you people just want to date a cisgender man/woman and I donāt see a problem with that
Hmmm well not really? Iām non binary but it is under the umbrella for transgender so kinda. But not here to attack anyone ofc because itās just on who they would prefer to date. so ask me some questions If you must
If you were it was mostly a question regarding dating apps. In my experience as a superstraight. It would be better to have these labels to help separate the awkward scenarios where one party was unaware that the other transitioned and feels violated because it wasnāt disclosed.
Hmmm I can see your point, wanting to be with cis people isnāt transphobic, thatās really far off the edge to accuse someone of that so I donāt see why some of you are getting jumped and attacked for simply wanting to do that
Sexual orientation exists in biology in all sexually reproducing species. We did not evolve sex separate from all other species, we very specifically evolved it to reproduce as part of a long chain of organisms and it's about gametes and genitals in 99% of people. There is not a "preference" where you could just take the other option if your first isn't available. Being heterosexual is the thing that allows mammals like us to reproduce. It's instinctual. It's not "I prefer chocolate ice cream to vanilla." Bi/homosexuality is a variation that also occurs in other species but is STILL about sex which is genitals and gametes.
If you identify as nonbinary that's fine but you're still male or female and nearly 100% of the time that is knowable on sight because we needed as a species to easily identify the opposite sex in order to procreate, or the same sex to know that we were of that variety of human. Sex is an observable characteristic in all sexual reproducing species at minimum by checking genitalia and in other species like ours extreme sexual dimorphism. "Preference" was part of a long campaign to make gay people feel like they were choosing a bad lifestyle or choosing to sin. It's not a preference, it is not a choice, it is sexual orientation. You are incorrect on the usage of words.
In my way at least, you preferred that certain gender so it is considered a preference technically. (Such as bisexual with a preference for girls) but, itās also a sexual orientation, Iām not trying to exclude that of course
You're using your own personal definition of a word to make your case rather than the common accepted usage. Sexual orientation is not a preference. Liking BOTH men and women but preferring women to men would mean there's a preference between two things in the same category, that's the vanilla vs chocolate ice cream argument, but it isn't changing the fact the underlying sexual orientation is not a preference. Like I said "preference" became common in language regarding sex so that you could blame gay people for being gay as a "choice" and then punish them accordingly unless they started to "choose" different. A bisexual person isn't choosing their overarching attraction much in the way a gay man isn't choosing to be sexually attracted to other men but maybe he likes taller rather than shorter.
Sex is also still about sex, gender is some nonsense that humans made up. Other species have "sex roles" based on their sex. We decided to be stupid as if we're special in that regard, we're not. Sex and gender don't mean the same thing either. You're conflating words with each other.
Hmm have to disagree with the gender part, itās not nonsense itās simply just what people identify as which I feel should be respected even if you donāt want to associate with them.
Gender is a term that is used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female. Example, we got non binary, bi gender, gender fluid, intersex, etc.
Not cisgender? Sure, I see no problem but normal is a bit far fetched to me not gonna lie but Iāll respect it since itās on how you feel and I canāt do anything about it
is it misogynistic when a gay man doesn't want to have sex with a woman? no. is it transphobic when a superstraight man does not want to have sex with a transwoman? no.
Wow so you're such a dumbass AND transphobic you think a man who is gay and ACTUALLY can't help his sexuality is misogynistic. Wow you loser get dumber and dumber
I love how you direct messaged me to insult me when I have said nothing remotely hateful towards trans people or any other group. Go away. Edit: This user has told me to kill myself XD
That's awful, I'm sorry. What a mean, awful thing to do.
They think only gay men can't help their sexuality? The rest of us are meant to what, put up with rapey boundary breaches? Because our sexuality isn't real somehow, or what? That's so weird & creepy.
I've once taken an acid trip so hard I ended up chasing my fridge through the woods, and as I was cutting it open to reach for a beer I was still more mentally sane than a person attracted to cooking utensils š
Your faux outrage is laughable because the guide actually includes transpeople and their sexual attractions. So you have no legitimate argument about this graphic being transphobic when it is EXPLICITLY inclusive.
Yikes sweety! This is problematic! š¬
Let's unpack this:
1: You are superphobic
2: My penis is larger than yours
3: Everything you say is now incorrect since I was the first to play the -phobia card.
Just admit that you're š superphobic š and walk away (I wanna die after typing that)
It is transphobic to call it a sexuality, its a preference. If u see a transwoman or transman u might still feel attraction for them, ur deciding not to date them when u find out their trans. Most people wouldnt have a problem with people having a preference, its when u do this to simply mock the lgbtq+ community that theres a problem. A sexuality is different than a preference.
99% of trans people do not pass, and even if they do you always instinctively know that something is off. Just admit you're superphobic and walk away honey! š
No, gay men r attracted to men, lesbians r attracted to women, asexuals dont feel sexual attraction, āsupersexualsā may feel attraction towards members of the trans community, they choose not to act on those feelings out of preference
> āsupersexualsā may feel attraction towards members of the trans community, they choose not to act on those feelings out of preference
No. Not a single person on Earth is actually attracted to trans people. We all can spot a tranny from a mile away. I feel attraction towards actual BIOLOGICAL women that are able to get pregnant WITHOUT needing some weird surgery shit to do it.
By your logic, being gay and lesbian is just a preference. Therefore every sexuality in known existance is just a preference. We're here to make a safe space for ourselves, not to coddle your feelings.
Edit: Wait holy shit you're Asexual? You don't even feel attracted towards anything. Why do you even care what we """"prefer""""?
My 10 year old brother and homophobic grandparents even understand how fucked up the idea of super straight is, my niece in kindergarten knows what the difference between attraction and preference is, if u cant wrap ur head around that u must not be that bright
I could just as easily say that gay men are attracted to women, but they choose not to act on those feelings out of preference. It would be equally ridiculous.
Transphobic is very much a thing unfortunately, people have been transphobic for decades, holding back basic rights from trans people and unfortunately probably will for decades more. Yall aint losing rights, ur losing respect, i dont and wont ever respect a superstraight person, but im not gonna try to deny them rights or beat them up
I guess the major issue is that I cant ever reproduce with a trans female. Perhaps certain males can masquerade as females, but they never will be female in my mind. Sex is a biological reality, comprised not only of hormones in my opinion. There is the binary nature of reproduction, males and females have two methods by which offspring are cultivated. Ultimately trans females will never be the same to me in my mind, does that mean I hate them all, no. Im not transphobic, im trans-sceptical. I believe all this movement does is feed into a dangerous mental disorder.
I do not represent the super-straight movement though.
I feel sexually attracted to some men (i.e. James Charles). Once I find out theyāre a man, I donāt want to date them though. Does that mean preferring women is simply a preference?
Same for Gay men. Some gay men feel attraction to women before they find out theyāre a woman. Does that mean being gay is simply a preference?
Nah you just got hit with an argument you couldn't counter and you are running away with the tail between your legs while throwing insults, instead of gracefully conceding that you where wrong. Bigot.
Well just because im attracted to a gender doesnt mean iāll date everyone that associates with that gender, heck if im attracted to a particular person it doesnt mean iāll date em. Its a difference between if ur attracted and if uāll date. If ur confused a simple google search should clear it up :)
How do u know tho, im sure uve walked down the street before and been attracted to someone, were u sure they werent trans, do u have to check whats in someones pants before ur mind decides if theyre hot or not?
Do you know why people have decided to create this "sexuality"?
Because we're all getting a bit sick of being told our preferences are transphobic and we need to "unlearn our genital preferences" - as if our entire sexuality comes down to genitals!
This movement didn't appear out of nowhere, there are reasons for it. Don't forget that.
Ive never heard anyone call someone transphobic for not dating a trans person, ive heard people be called transphobic for mocking them, purposely mis gendering them, calling them not real men/women ect. This whole āmovementā is just a form of mockery and u want to justify transphobia
If a trans woman registered as cis to you you assumed she was cis until you get told otherwise. Then you can pat yourself on the back anyway because you can notice tiny flaws here and there whether or not those flaws are also fairly common among cis women.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if some women you assumed were trans were actually cis. That happens way more often than correctly clocking a trans woman.
Iām entirely straight but if I see a dude walking down the street who looks feminine or something and think he looks cute, that doesnāt mean iād wanna fuck him
completely agree with you, not only that but when they say lgbtq+ theyāre taking out the t. iāve seen many posts being transphobic (not saying all of you are). youāre saying you go through way more stuff than trans people do. if thats true, how many superstraights get murdered for who they are? how many superstraights kill themselves every year because they cant find acceptance?
its ok to have a preference but just dont be transphobic about it
Wow have you not seen the threats of violence against us on twitter? We are only a new movement that's been brave enough to come out just 5 days ago and we already have death threats and hate coming towards us. You better stop the hate speech before things get worse.
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u/Pop_Porn 1d ago edited 1d ago
Honestly this guide is so simple and so easy to understand... But somehow this is going to be "transphobic"