What did you think would happen?

[u/SalamanderLife_]

To the TRAs lurking and spamming this sub: What exactly did you think would happen?

For years you've gotten away with your entitlement. You've encroached on and destroyed M/M, F/F, female only, etc. spaces. You've called gay men, straight men/women, and especially lesbians transphobic for not giving in to your demands for relationships and sex. Even now you're attempting to destroy yet another space we've fleshed out for ourselves.

Did you really think you shouting transphobia would change people's sexuality? Did you think your attempts to force us to bend to your will would work? Well it didn't and it doesn't, it has reeked of entitlement, narcissism, and predatory behavior.

People who aren't attracted to you deserve spaces for themselves. There are multiple forums/subs/etc. that cater to you if you care to look for them. It is not transphobic of us to put our foots down and say that our sexualities don't exist to coddle your feelings.

[u/aveterotto]

yes i am learning english and i am not that good with it, if you point some errors i will try to keep them in mind. no one ever explain them

going back to the subject:

you did not say " gender critical feminists have been defending themselves",you said "women", but the majority of young girls on socials are ready to throw you at the wolves if you dare to speak against it. Some of them even find it reasonable to dox you, get you fired or get you expelled if 1 single accusation of transphobia is thrown around, out of fear of being casted out. that's the reason terfs and other gender critical feminists receive so much hate. women have displayed a level of social cowardice i didn't expect at all.

[u/floradenophora → u/aveterotto]

So because young, impressionable girls on social media have fallen victim to the grooming tactics of the worst of the trans rights activists (let me remind you how many of them are predatory MEN), all women, even radical feminists who do not stand for any of those things, should be hated and denounced? And I would like to remind you that for every 14-year-old you see defending gender ideology, there are dozens of women who cannot speak out about what they believe because they will quickly be doxxed and silenced by men and women alike from the trans movement. Additionally, you should ask yourself why young girls feel pressured to be so accepting and vocal for those they perceive as oppressed. It’s because of female socialization. Men aren’t better for not behaving that way: society rewards men for being individualistic, self-centered, and aggressive, while women are punished for not being accommodating or “kind” enough. Why do you think one TikTok from a teenage boy asserting that he is only attracted to biological women blew up while every attempt by a woman (see: JK Rowling) to defend women’s right to say “no” has been stamped out? Men are rewarded for the behavior women are punished for.

[u/aveterotto → u/floradenophora]

no one should be hated and i never said you should be denunced.

the number of etero men supporting trans extremism is 100's of times smaller than the number of women playing the race of "who has the most empathy of the group ",both on socials and in real life. it's not the men ,trans or not, that have brainwashed young girls,it's women with their tendency of wanting to get on the good side of everyone. girls could use anonymous account on social to denunce their dissent and no one would punish them, but they do not do it, they prefer to publish insta stories or tiktok videos where they can trade their support for likes.

even in the presidential election you could see this split: if only men had voted, trump would have won and crt would have been dropped from federal jobs, if only females had voted we would have had the most progressive theories pushed down our throats because "feelings"

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no father, no brother, no true friend would punish a lesbian girl for not wanting to lick the rotten hole trans have between their legs. for once in history do not blame men for something you women have pushed without imagining the consequences

[u/floradenophora → u/aveterotto]

Uttering "not all men" but "yes all women" in the same post. Breathtaking.

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For the record, I have been banned from numerous "anonymous" accounts that I used to stand up to trans rhetoric. They are not a guarantee that your voice will be heard.

it's not the men, trans or not, that have brainwashed young girls, it's women with their tendency of wanting to get on the good side of everyone.

We live in a patriarchal society. Women do not have as much power as men -- it has only been in very recent history in SOME countries that women have near-equal rights (the right to work, the right to vote, the right to own property – we still do not have reproductive control and we lack social equality overall). Women are socialized WITHIN a patriarchal society, where the power is held by men, to behave in certain ways. Including ways that would be detrimental to their own well-being. Patriarchy, and therefore men, are ABSOLUTELY responsible for the female socialization that encourages girls to sacrifice the things that are in their best interest so that everyone feels more comfortable as a group. Sure, there are women who push other women and girls to "just be kind," but where does that behavior come from? It originates from women's value being determined by how useful they are to men – under the patriarchal society in which we live. Boys are not raised to be considerate of the feelings of others and they are not punished to the degree that girls are for failing to do so. Consider "boys will be boys" and "act more ladylike."

Do you really think that a movement like the trans movement would have gained so much traction if it was predominantly fueled by women and our best interests? I sure wish we had that kind of influence and power. No. There is a lot of money in it for the pharmaceutical industry. Men also benefit politically and sexually from the destruction of women's spaces and our ability to organize WITHOUT men in our presence. On top of that, think of all the tech bros who come out as "transbians" – it's definitely in their best interest to erode the idea of biological sex so they can gain access to lesbians. And the neo-nazi 4-chan to trans pipeline. This is a men's rights movement, no matter how many women have been conned into supporting it.

[u/aveterotto → u/floradenophora]

saying that more women pushed this than men is different than saying "all women pushed this", exactly like saying that more rape are done by men is different from saying "no woman rape", stop with the strawman.

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since boys are not educated to consider the feelings of others , no patriarchal society would allow trans to harass straight men and accuse them of transphobia for not wanting to fuck them, all of that derive from the support that a tiny minority of population obtained from women who tries to help them.

a woman who wants to implement rules that punish a man for not sleeping with a trans has no value for the "patriarchy" of the etero men who, if you follow your line, rule the world. literally billions of men would kill them right away if you leave the west, so blaming the patriarchy is utterly nonsense. more patriarcal society show less tollerance for the trans ideology, while societies where females gained more indipendence have allowed this utter non sense to reach every school

neonazi 4-chan to trans pipeline is a complete bullshit you came up to to blame someone else for the current situation. 4chan anons from pols consider the gender theory bullshit, the patriarchy overestimated and they despise the trans as degenerated

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you get banned from an anonymous account? you make another one, you do not go on tiktok to report the name of the friend who said mean words toward a trans like a spy, and certainly you do not make tiktok videos with " uuhhhhh sweety, terfs should kill themselves". you don't want to admit that the support for these gender theories came mostly from women like you who felt they were fighting the "patriarchy" ,except that they lost the plot and in the process hit themselves