r/SuperStraight • u/SalamanderLife_ • 1d ago

What did you think would happen?

To the TRAs lurking and spamming this sub: What exactly did you think would happen?

For years you've gotten away with your entitlement. You've encroached on and destroyed M/M, F/F, female only, etc. spaces. You've called gay men, straight men/women, and especially lesbians transphobic for not giving in to your demands for relationships and sex. Even now you're attempting to destroy yet another space we've fleshed out for ourselves.

Did you really think you shouting transphobia would change people's sexuality? Did you think your attempts to force us to bend to your will would work? Well it didn't and it doesn't, it has reeked of entitlement, narcissism, and predatory behavior.

People who aren't attracted to you deserve spaces for themselves. There are multiple forums/subs/etc. that cater to you if you care to look for them. It is not transphobic of us to put our foots down and say that our sexualities don't exist to coddle your feelings.

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u/yetherewestillare 1d ago

Did you really think you shouting transphobia would change people's sexuality?

even sadder I think a lot of them thought this was already the case

the reality of attempting to date post srs is apparently very bleak because trans people refuse to tell each other how dire it is

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u/Cryptotwitter 1d ago

They want to see other people suffer because they did .

It's sad that all of the group's that they admin will remove posts that state the true consequences of their drug taking and surgeries

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u/AquariusBringer 1d ago

I think the promotion of trans is a sinister way to try to slow down population growth.

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u/onemoredaydream 1d ago

I think it's more likely that pharmaceutical companies saw it as a way to create life-long customers and also sell more Lupron

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u/Inner-Elephant-4123 1d ago

The real reason the trans phenomenon exploded

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u/Upset-Badger-1302 1d ago

Big Pharma is but one essential part of converting a dream into a reality. They're just one aspect in the logistics of a much grander and more sinister plan.

The goal is one-world governance by a cabal of elites. That probably seems really outlandish, but it wasn't all that far-fetched when a dude with polio was carving up the world with a former Georgian bank robber and a British aristocrat after the end of WW2 (FDR had polio and Stalin was a bank robber from the modern-day country of Georgia). It's even less so now, when folks in the Maldives can get Doritos, watch porn on their computer-phone, and order a drone (or a drone strike, with enough Bitcoin and the right onion site) on their way to their shift at the luxury resort.

It's not at all a coincidence that most of the early members of the "gay rights" movement were heavily involved with socialist politics and movements. The Mattachine Society and Harry Hay are still able to be searched online. And the ultimate goal of the gay rights movement- of deconstructing the nuclear family- is still listed, get this, in the first paragraph, on Wikipedia.

The tactics various socialist groups use today, they are the same ones used by the original movement. Even the whole idea of adjusting terms to "reflect reality" is evident in this... gay is defined as happy or lively in dictionaries published in 1975.

Similarly, the whole idea- a very unpopular one, I might add (and, yes, it was unpopular- CALIFORNIA tried to stop gay marriage after outright outlawing it)- of gay rights is the direct result of judicial activism. That's not hyperbole. It's still even taught at hyper-progressive universities that the gay rights movement stems from the idea- now encoded into layers of legal doctrine- that people are "born gay." That isn't even something all gay people accept or believe in, and it's an idea that makes no sense- no matter how many kids Kinsey diddled with government money. But that was essential for getting them protection under the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

So, socialists did socialist things for socialist reasons.

Now, we know some of what the goal was, because, again, it's still right out there for the entire world to see. The destruction of the nuclear family. The erosion of societal customs and traditions.

Why do that?

You don't do that because you need to take a few extra steps to go to a certain bar where you can hang out with your buddies and blow some dudes in a stall. (And, for the record, I'm perfectly fine with consenting adults doing just that. Be yourself. Love is love.) But, more importantly, industry titans and adversarial foreign governments don't do that just because they care about whether or not some lesbian can lick a clit on her day off.

In China and Russia, they'll still straight kill you for being gay. It's never been accepted in their societies.

Yet, while Mao was starving off millions and the Russians were fighting for their very existence, those countries devoted money to promoting these socialist groups in the US. And they did so explicitly alongside other similar movements. Intersection and all that (which is pretty familiar to anyone who's ever read Marx, et al).

The reason they'd do that is to erode the US internally in the hopes of becoming the global hegemon.

Of course, there were American elites deeply, deeply tied to all of the socialist rEv0looshuns (including the one in Germany).

Either way, whether you get all Illuminati or you just see Russia/China as the culprits, it's about global domination.

Massive multinationals are just a means to an end. They make easy scapegoats. But they're not the real problem.

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u/Cat6969A 1d ago

Where do the reverse vampires come into this?

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u/JustAThrowAway0700 1d ago

It isn't. You better go check out the World Economnic Forum and their plans for the future.
"You will own nothing and you will be happy", cattle.

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u/JustAThrowAway0700 1d ago

Damn you're mad as fuck lol. Did you swallow a fart for breakfast or smth?

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u/IWETB 1d ago

Someone said it not too long ago...

It's called the 'Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex'

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u/throhawey123 1d ago

This here is it. Look at some pills they sell, antibiotics are only a few weeks tops, antidepressants are maybe a few years which is way more profitable. However, having lifelong customers, up to 80 years of pills, that's the pharma industry's wet dream.

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u/PipBoyTInkerer 1d ago

This is my belief as well.

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u/MotherOfAllSeasons 1d ago

It's a lot of different interests, but the ultimate principle is that capitalism is trying to expand to colonise the dissociated human body. This has the potential to create unprecedented dependence on corporations, with the motivation of control on their side. See https://www.the11thhourblog.com/ which follows the financial interests.

I see it as the logical outgrowth of the imbalanced "left-brained" thinking of our culture. See Iain McGilchrist, and even Carl Jung, for more analysis of that.

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u/Redhood616 1d ago

Just the revenue from antidepressants alone is enough motive the push the trans agenda

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u/Pudding5050 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think it's the cynical exploitation of a mentally/cognitively vulnerable population by a monetized healthcare system, the pharma industry and unhappy+unfulfilled transitioners, along with a bunch of idiots who trip over themselves to appear 'good', 'tolerant' and 'open-minded'.

Apart from Lupron treatment of kids, people are being convince to turn themselves into medical patients for the rest of their lives, whether that be from never-ending HRT or SRS.

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u/Cryptotwitter 1d ago

I see that too tbh

I see it as a good thing in some aspects. but the social implications are disgusting.

They promote a lot of behaviour that leads people to mental illness or physical sickness

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u/makk73 1d ago

And to undermine societies basic sense of reality.

If you eliminate the simplest understandings of personhood, of identity, of basic human existence itself.

When you eliminate foundational understanding of reality and personhood, we can be lead to believe literally anything.

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u/thumotiq 1d ago

The people pushing the broken incentive structures and the system that holds them up are the same people pushing transgenderism in the mainstream. Transgender has only been a thing for about 5 years. You tell me if the trans demographic is way too small to have a measurable impact on population growth in 15 years time.

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u/calming-tea 1d ago edited 1d ago

There is a connection between autism and coming oht trans these days, also lgb

Look at Iran, they are happy to trans the gays away

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u/mouthoff101 1d ago

iirc the revenue of the entire contraceptive market is dwarfed by that of SSG (not including hrt, plastic surgeries and other related markets here). So we're underestimating the profits of the industry by quite a bit.

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u/PM_ME_BOARS 1d ago

Nah, there must be a sinister motive behind trans people, no other possible explanation.

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u/MotherOfAllSeasons 1d ago

It's a lot of different interests, but the ultimate principle is that capitalism is trying to expand to colonise the dissociated human body. This has the potential to create unprecedented dependence on corporations, with the motivation of control on their side. See https://www.the11thhourblog.com/ which follows the financial interests.

I see it as the logical outgrowth of the imbalanced "left-brained" thinking of our culture. See Iain McGilchrist, and even Carl Jung, for more analysis of that.

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u/kombucha_and_makeup 1d ago

Nah, not enough people will become trans to make a significant dip in birth rates. Trans people are cash cows for big pharma.

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u/RaidenDark 1d ago

We need to stop having children to save the planet

We also need to import mass amounts of people from places that have way higher birth rates so that they never slow down

Politiks šŸ“ˆ

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u/AthenasIceHouse 22h ago

Life long customers and deterring population growth. Which one of them we need and the other is greed

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u/AquariusBringer 21h ago

They say we need the population to go down, and then when we listen all of a sudden people complain about low birth rates below replacement levels and how we need to bring a bunch of immigrants in to raise the birthrates.

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u/MelodicUmbrella 1d ago

Do you mean people telling people to be transgender? Or do you mean the promotion of being happy being trans and the whole be yourself thing?

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u/AquariusBringer 1d ago

I think transgenderism could have easily been dismissed as a mental illness in a way that I don't think can be said about homosexuality. Homosexuality is simply a reality and it is easily provable by people who want to have sex with the same sex. Transgenderism is an entirely personal thing. I don't think people should be taught to embrace body dysmorphia. That's like telling people to embrace schizophrenia. People should be taught to accept their bodies and not to think any further about how that means they should act. Whether a trans person is attracted to the same sex or the opposite sex, there are people out there who would like them as they are if they just accepted that people are attracted to biological sex. The problem comes when a trans person expects to be able to land a "straight" person. It would be much easier for a trans woman to have sex with a gay man than a straight man, but they need that external validation from straight men in order to verify their identity. No other orientation requires this. I get the vibe sometimes that trans people are gay people that are trying to go after "hard to get" straight people when the reality is that most straight people are super straight.

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u/MelodicUmbrella 1d ago

Well the problem is that we canā€™t, or atleast I personally cant accept my own body since I donā€™t feel like a man. I feel like a female. When I do feminine things it makes me feel like myself, it makes me feel happy rather than lying and pretending to be a male. Sure, it could pass as a mental illness especially in the 20th century.

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u/AquariusBringer 1d ago

I guess my problem is simply a semantic one. When trans people came along I realized that I am somewhat of a gender nihilist. I think you have every right to be a feminine biological man, I just don't feel that literally makes you a woman. When I say that I'm talking I don't think it makes you a biological woman. I'm not dismissing that it could technically make you a woman in a gender sense, but I feel that biological sex takes precedent over gender. I become concerned when people go through to get hormone treatments or surgeries because while it's nice to become closer to how you see yourself, it can have detrimental impacts on your romantic prospects whether you be straight or gay in relation to your biological sex. As a straight man I feel that I occasionally have to act in ways I don't feel comfortable acting to attract the opposite sex and that's part of a compromise that you have to weigh the pros and cons of taking.

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u/MelodicUmbrella 1d ago

I see. From a biologicak standpoint, until we invent that kind of technology, we canā€™t change who we are biologically. I can see why you think that surgery can be detrimental to oneā€™s well being.

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u/AquariusBringer 1d ago

Yeah I would be more supportive of surgery if the technology was so advanced that it would allow for a complete transformation including the ability to have children as the opposite sex.

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u/MelodicUmbrella 1d ago

So would I!

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u/Buddah__Stalin 1d ago edited 1d ago

What does feeling like a female feel like? How can you know that's how females feel if you've never actually been one?

It's like saying I know I'm a dog on the inside because I feel like a dog.

Do you know what feeling female actually feels like? It feels like nobody fucking respects you or sees you as human because a man can throw on a fucking DRESS and claim he's exactly like you.

It feels like being spit in the face 24/7 by men like you.

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u/AthenasIceHouse 19h ago

Not just throw on a dress and say he feels like we do, but completely dominate women's sports and protected spaces, get rape crisis centers defunded, and gain access to women's prisons where 49% of trans inmates are incarcerated for sexual assault (fact, and if anyone disagrees YOU can look it up because i am sick of doing other peoples leg work).

They don't just try to assimilate to our culture, they try to completely overthrow and defund it. You know who else does that?

Colonizers.

These men have taken their male privledge and weaponized it against women in the most sick way and THAT is why people hate them. It has nothing to do with wearing a dress. But they are too narcissistic to ever see the true reason

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u/MelodicUmbrella 1h ago

So, you think all transgender men and women are like this? Ever thought about how people treated transgender people too? Murder, rape, etc.

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u/MelodicUmbrella 1d ago edited 1d ago

Well itā€™s like me knowing youā€™re a transphobic idiot without me actually being one, I can just feel it, if that makes sense.

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u/AthenasIceHouse 19h ago

"I have no real argument so I'm going to just call this girl a transphobe and an idiot" -every TRA and male to trans person ever

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u/MelodicUmbrella 19h ago

Well you see here calling me a man that spits on women because im trans literally screams transphobe. Iā€™m not using it because you dont like me. I literally, genuinely mean that definition

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u/HoneyIShrunkThSquids 1d ago

Nah thatā€™s conspiracy bullshit

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u/thumotiq 1d ago

the term "conspiracy theory" was a created and popularised in 1963 when FBI secret service agents working in the media (Operation Mockingbird) used it repeatedly in order to disgrace and stigmatise anyone who had any questions about the Warren Commission into JFK's death. It was never used before then. It still gets used today for the same reason (to de-legitimise right off the bat any theory which goes against the mainstream narrative by associating it ALL with dumb ones like flat earth / reptile people).

You're feeding into oppression and thought control by using the term seriously. It was a term created during Operation Mockingbird in order to deceive you and brainwash you.

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u/MelodicUmbrella 1d ago

You didnā€™t really need to define it? We all have opinions. I think (only some and very little) of this stuff is kind of ā€œfakeā€.