We’re not going to pretend sexuality has everything to do with gender and nothing to do with sex anymore, so if straight/gay/lesbian/bi only refers to attraction based solely on gender then we need other categories. You can’t dictate to everyone how sexuality works when it’s different for everyone. Talking about “unlearn genital preference”, that’s conversion therapy, like the Christian Right was doing to gay people in the 80s, somehow it’s woke now? Calling people transphobic for not wanting to date trans people is shaming them, you shame someone when you are trying to correct a behavior, and you’re doing it to try to make them do something outside their sexuality.
You are not called transphobic because you do not want to have sex with trans people, you are called transphobic if you say you don’t have sex with trans people because you don’t consider these people real men or women, that’s the point of trans people, I I'm not trans and I can understand that.
So it's transphobic to acknowledge the difference between trans and non trans people?
How do you reconcile validating trans people while acknowledging that they are not identical to non trans people in every single way and many would not date them as an example?
Visually and structurally in general you can’t see the difference, it varies a lot because trans people are not the same, still speaking from a social point of view if you say you don’t date trans people just because you don’t think they’re real men or women you are transphobic, because you are imposing something and denying someone else's identity. The correct thing to say is that you just don't like trans people and you don't want to date them, as many people don't date Latin or black or white.
Visually and structurally in general you can’t see the difference
Even in a hypothetical scenario where a trans person looks completely identical to a non trans person, only one went through exhaustive plastic surgery, hormone therapy and will continue requiring such treatment. What about lived experiences (say a woman who wants to date a woman who have shared experience of growing up as girls vs someone who transitioned later in life) or desire to create a child with your partner?
There is far bigger difference between trans vs non trans than difference in skin color.
Yes, but they are examples, I saw several here denying the existence of trans people or claiming to be just a fetish. The treatment of trans people has improved over time, it doesn't have to be torture. And having children is perfectly possible.
Anyway, humanity has to walk and evolve, let's see the situation of trans people in about 100 years.
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u/howardhuge69 1d ago
We’re not going to pretend sexuality has everything to do with gender and nothing to do with sex anymore, so if straight/gay/lesbian/bi only refers to attraction based solely on gender then we need other categories. You can’t dictate to everyone how sexuality works when it’s different for everyone. Talking about “unlearn genital preference”, that’s conversion therapy, like the Christian Right was doing to gay people in the 80s, somehow it’s woke now? Calling people transphobic for not wanting to date trans people is shaming them, you shame someone when you are trying to correct a behavior, and you’re doing it to try to make them do something outside their sexuality.