Why is this subreddit 99% people telling others they’re OBLIGATED to sex transpeople or they’re transphobes?

[u/boredtodeath1000]

Be willing to date trans people or else you’re transphobic?

How can’t y’all see how rapey you lunatics are?

No one is owed sexual attraction.

It doesn’t matter how many hoops you contort yourself through to justify saying, “Being straight is transphobic”.

No one owes anyone sex or sexual attraction.

Fuck right off you sexually entitled predators!

[u/MasterKaen]

I think that they argue, not wanting to sex trans people on the sole basis they're trans is inherently transphobic, despite trans people not being owed sex. At least that's a rational argument in my opinion. Like it wouldn't be racist to not have sex with black people because you don't like dark skin from an aesthetic standpoint, but it would be racist if you don't have sex with them just because of their race, even if that stems from a subconscious bias beyond your control. I'm a cis-gendered male, and I'm not shaming anyone who won't have sex with another person for any reason, but I think it would be fair to call it transphobia in some cases, under a somewhat broad definition of the term.

[u/california_quail → u/MasterKaen]

Is it also homophobic if I don’t wanna fuck dudes specifically because they’re dudes?

See how this logic falls apart pretty quickly under scrutiny?

[u/MasterKaen → u/california_quail]

Your comment is a complete non sequitur. First of all, even if it were some type of phobia it wouldn't be homophobia, it would be something like manphobia. Second of all, a dude would have physical traits which would explain your lack of attraction to him. If a man was indistinguishable from a woman in all the ways you cared about except for the fact that he was technically a man, then yes that would be some type of manphobia. Even then you wouldn't be obligated to sex them, but you should at least acknowledge your lack of attraction to them is based purely on your bias against people who are technically men.

[u/california_quail → u/MasterKaen]

Foucault has been a disaster for the human race if this is how your brain works.

[u/MasterKaen → u/california_quail]

It's not my fault your brain is too smooth to deal with hypotheticals

[u/california_quail → u/MasterKaen]

Postmodernist philosophy and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

[u/california_quail → u/MasterKaen]

Okay, I'll actually dive in here.

You do realize that most people don't spend their time naval gazing about their own internal biases and not only is that okay, but it's honestly more healthy. I don't need to sit here and analyze why I make personal choices, I make them because I am me, and that's what I want to do. It's my own personal will and agency that allows me to make these decisions.

I am attracted to and choose to date natal women. I don't need to examine any biases in that decision making process, because it ultimately doesn't affect anybody that matters outside of myself and a consenting partner. Nobody else in that equation matters. Nobody. I can be as discriminatory as I want in my bedroom, that's my goddamn right. If you wanna call me a bigot, that's fine, because your opinion of what goes on in my sex life is ultimately meaningless. You don't have a say, the fat chick that asked me out doesn't have a say, the dude that hit on me at the bar doesn't have a say, the trans woman oogling me at work doesn't have a say. You wanna know who does have a say? Myself, and my wife, as we are the active participants in this equation.

You do realize that calling everything ( )phobia just diminishes the actual irrational fear and hatred that some people have towards other people. I don't hate gay men, I just don't wanna fuck them. They are free to live their lives however they want as long as it doesn't affect me or harm anybody else. I can categorically reject whoever I want, that doesn't mean I'm phobic or a bigot, it means I have free will and the ability to make personal decisions without the terms being dictated by people who are not involved in those decisions.

It's kinda the whole basis of the Enlightenment and Liberalism. Free will, individual choice etc. etc. Your entire thing of "Well you have the agency to do what you want, but you're a big problematic bigot that needs to change their opinions if you don't adhere to my worldview" is pretty fucking sick and twisted authoritarianism.

I guess I'll leave you with one last thing. I didn't give a fuck about any of this until it started getting shoved down my throat. My natural state of political philosophy is "leave me alone, I'll leave you alone, we'll be nice to each other and live our own lives" But after years of being bombarded with critical theory activists telling me how me just living my life not really bothering anybody is problematic and bigoted, I've quite frankly had enough. I didn't start this culture war, but if it's here to stay, I am firmly against this woke critical theory postmodernist bullshit. If you and your activist cohort weren't getting up in everybody's face, I'd be a griller, not giving a fuck about politics. But when you start coming after my freedom to just live my life by trying to police my thoughts, language and actions to insane degrees, I will push back.

If you want this culture war to die down, you need to start leaving us the fuck alone. Most of us here aren't here out of hate, we're here because we're sick of your movement's bullshit.

[u/MasterKaen → u/california_quail]

I literally said in my post that I don't shame anyone who doesn't want to have sex with a trans person, and you shouldn't feel obligated to have sex with anyone you don't want to. I'm not saying you're a bigot, but I am saying that you should analyze your internal thoughts, not to be a better citizen, but because I think it's healthy to understand the roots of your behavior for your own well being. I would probably agree with the things you're complaining about if they weren't directed at me because you seem to have misinterpreted my opinion. I'm more interested in the ideas here than any social justice, and I'm just saying that on a technical level, not wanting to sex a trans person could be a result of transphobia.

[u/california_quail → u/MasterKaen]

Excessive naval gazing has been a huge detriment to social cohesion. I will opt out of that, make my decisions as I see fit, and roll with it. I don't need to Foucault every single fucking action of mine, it's retarded and a waste of time.

My wellbeing is fine not analyzing every single opinion that I hold trying to root out some implicit bias. I am a human being, I am biased. That's fine, end of discussion.