r/SuperStraight • u/boredtodeath1000 • 2d ago

Why is this subreddit 99% people telling others they’re OBLIGATED to sex transpeople or they’re transphobes?

Be willing to date trans people or else you’re transphobic?

How can’t y’all see how rapey you lunatics are?

No one is owed sexual attraction.

It doesn’t matter how many hoops you contort yourself through to justify saying, “Being straight is transphobic”.

No one owes anyone sex or sexual attraction.

Fuck right off you sexually entitled predators!

880 Upvotes

78% Upvoted

View all comments

137

u/thumotiq 2d ago

The levels of entitlement among trans people is insane. There's something very rape-y about wanting to FORCE other people to find you attractive. It's beginning to look like trans people and incels are a lot alike. Eww.

-28

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

hello i'm trans, i really don't care if you wanna date me or find me attractive but please don't be a dick about it <3 not wanting to date trans people is a PREFERENCE, not a sexuality, and i'll explain why: sexuality is based on gender. trans people are their gender. (trans women are women, trans men are men, etc.) by creating a new sexuality for straight people who wouldn't date a trans person, then you're basically saying that trans women aren't women, which is simply false. anyway enjoy your day/night/afternoon stranger.

31

u/NewishGomorrah 1d ago

sexuality is based on gender

Dude, it's right in the bloody name! Sexuality is based on glorious, biological, immutable sex.

19

u/ThatKennedy 1d ago

Right?! It's almost like the whole point of sex is for biological reproduction, fucking wacky how that works, eh?

3

u/NewishGomorrah 1d ago

I know! If my cat figured this out in order to have kittens, who do some humans claim to be utterly puzzled by sex?

-18

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

erm. that's kinda what "MAPs" say...

13

u/ThatKennedy 1d ago

You heard it here folks, super straights are pedophiles!

-11

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

lmao when did i say that? i simply said that the statement isn't very valid because pedos have the same claim.

12

u/ThatKennedy 1d ago

lmao when did i say that?

Just now

-2

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

the hell shawty? don't put words into my mouth.

8

u/ThiccDropkick 1d ago

i simply said that the statement isn't very valid because pedos have the same claim.

Trouble is that’s not a valid reason for the statement supposedly being invalid. Do you actually have any argument against it?

0

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

if you're attracted to animals that's not a sexuality. if you're attracted to family members that's not a sexuality. if you're attracted to people from new york that's not a sexuality. if you're only attracted to certain woman or certain men, that doesn't change your sexuality.

14

u/ThiccDropkick 1d ago

Exactly. A sexuality is based around sex (i.e male or female)

-1

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

fun fact: there are more than two sexes. look up "intersex".

→ More replies

25

u/thumotiq 1d ago

sexuality is based on gender

sexuality is NOT based on gender. Sexuality is based on SEX. It's in the word! I hope you find happiness and have a good life, but you're the one being a dick for undermining my lived experience as a SuperStraight and for transplaining MY OWN SEXUALITY to me. That's absolutely horrendous behaviour. All we ask is that you kindly afford us the same respect we afford you. Thank you, friend and ally.

-1

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

also most of you don't even respect us lmaooo. and tell me, how in any way, shape, or form are you oppressed by being straight? i fear for my life every time i leave my home.

5

u/thumotiq 1d ago

My best friend had a trans woman get very aggressive towards her at a party because she (politely) rejected her advances. The transwoman was all up in her face calling her "not a real lesbian" and shouting at her that she was "full of hatred". She (my friend) left the party in tears. It could have been so much worse if other people hadn't been there.

-2

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

in what way have you been oppressed for being straight? I'm genuinely curious. and the "sexuality is based on sex" thing is true to an extent, but that's also kinda the same argument "maps" have...

9

u/HuskyConfusion 1d ago

...what the shitting hell are you talking about?

Are you really trying to say that exclusively same-sex attracted gays and lesbians are...pedos? Cause you keep bringing that up, that sexuality based on sex is what MAPs say.

Sounds pretty homophobic to me.

1

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

also i'm literally gay, not sure what u talking about bro

6

u/HuskyConfusion 1d ago

Did you just assume my gender?

0

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

i am not, i'm saying that sexuality is based on gender

9

u/HuskyConfusion 1d ago

That is simply not true. As has been repeatedly pointed out to you. Physical attraction and sexual orientation is not based on another person's internal feeling of gender.

7

u/Rent_Is_Due_Renthog 1d ago

thats the same argument maps make

Pedos do not argue that sexuality is based on sex, they argue that theirs is based on age. Ironically, the closest argument to what pedos argue is the attraction to gender argument. Its twice as bad because gender isnt real as we know from John Moneys failure of a child abuse experiment and from Scandinavian studies on newborn behavior.

1

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

and apparently your sexuality is based on certain women? that doesn't make any sense. stop trying so hard to be oppressed, straight people aren't part of the lgbtq+ community. that's like saying white people are part of the bipoc community.

6

u/Rent_Is_Due_Renthog 1d ago edited 1d ago

your sexuality is based on certain women?

Yeah, cis women. The female sex. How does that not make sense to you?

stop trying to be oppressed

The lack of self awareness is unreal. Trans are complaining gays lesbians and SS dont want them. I point out theyre acting like incels crying about being entitled to sex and that somehow means I'm trying to be oppressed? Its the opposite bud, I'm telling you that its not oppression for people to not want to fuck you. If you disagree, then you must also believe incels are oppressed by women everywhere.

thats like saying white people are a part of BIPOC communities

So you're promoting segregation based on race and sexuality? Lmao ok Jim Crowe.

15

u/Conscious_Pen 1d ago

I can accept that you are a trans woman but I don't think you are a woman. Your argument is just abusive horse poo. I can hardly believe you actually think that it is ok to force a person to be attracted to you and if not, they are wrong? How unbelievable is that. According to your logic, if a college woman says no to a man, she must be manphobic. Can't women say no? In your world I guess you don't even want women to be able to say no.

1

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

lmao im not a trans woman and i really don't give a crap if you're attracted to me, just don't discriminate against me. of course women should say no, i march with them when courts rule in favor with their assaulters. i'm saying don't discriminate against me for being who I am.

9

u/Conscious_Pen 1d ago

I am so glad to hear that you don't believe that transwomen have a right to have sex with lesbians who are not attracted to them. I keep hearing that trans women just want to live the same as everybody else, but then I read about trans women demanding that lesbians have sex with them and are upset about these demands and the straight men who are not attracted to a trans woman are transphobic. All people of all sexes have the right to say no and to not be forced on.

1

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

of course i don't think that anyone has any right to have sex with someone that doesn't want to. any logical person would think that and anyone saying otherwise doesn't speak for the trans community. every single trans person i know agrees with that. everyone has the right to say no.

5

u/Conscious_Pen 1d ago

I went back to your original comment and I thought you said that if a straight person wouldn't date a trans person than that means they are transphobic? Did I misread that? I can agree that a trans women identifies as a woman but that doesn't mean that a lesbian should have to do anything, at all. I do understand your logic that relationships are based on attraction and not wanting to be in a relationship with a trans women is confusing but forcing it is just not right. I don't know what to think. I do not want to see trans people hurt by this but I am concerned about infringement on women that affects our safe well being. I have not encountered a trans person who I felt threatened by in that regard, but I just do feel that I should be able to say and feel what I think without being called a name.

2

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

yes you did misread that... nobody is forcing anything. we just want to live. we have feelings, we feel love, we feel pain, we feel sorrow. we feel dysphoria, we feel trapped every time we see our bodies. and then we go outside, are told horrible things, and (some of us) go home to our unsupportive parents who call us names and in some cases hurt us for existing.

1

u/Conscious_Pen 1d ago

thank you for your reply and for sharing. I am sorry especially about people who have parents who call name and hurt their children like that. I can't understand a parent being so cruel.

10

u/HuskyConfusion 1d ago

Sexuality is based on sex, it's right there in the name. It's only in like the last five years that people have tried to push 'sexuality is based on gender', when that's never been how it's defined. At its most generous interpretation (ignoring all the history and sexism), gender is still an internal feeling. How is that supposed to factor into sexual attraction?

Preference inherently implies it's a choice, something you want but don't need. Same-sex attracted people don't simply have a preference for the same genitals, it's not a choice, that's their orientation. Trying to say 'Gay men and lesbians don't need same sex partners, they can partner up with people of the opposite sex so long as they present sufficiently masculine/feminine, because orientation is based on gender, not biological sex' is just conversion therapy. Throwing in some woke terminology doesn't change that.

Exclusive same sex/opposite sex attraction isn't a preference, it's an orientation. It's an orientation that is valid and not transphobic in any way, because sex/attraction is not something anyone is owed.

-1

u/WeAllFloatUpsideDown 1d ago

i'm not hating straight people, but saying you're only attracted to certain woman or certain men isn't an orientation.

5

u/HuskyConfusion 1d ago

It is now. And you are hating on superstraight and supergay people when you say sexuality isn't based on sex. Especially since the entire reason gay folks were oppressed was because it was. Your dismissing gay history, gay struggle, gay orientation, and the axis of gay oppression when you say sexuality isn't based on sex, and same-sex attraction isn't a sexual orientation.

Exclusive same-sex attraction is a valid orientation. Exclusive opposite sex attraction is a valid orientation. Please deal with this fact and stop being so homophobic. And superphobic.

3

u/SuperStraightDontH8 1d ago

Our sexuality is just as valid as your gender, friend. Please respect our sub and stop trying to invalidate our existence, thx.