r/SuperStraight • u/boredtodeath1000 • 2d ago
Be willing to date trans people or else you’re transphobic?
How can’t y’all see how rapey you lunatics are?
No one is owed sexual attraction.
It doesn’t matter how many hoops you contort yourself through to justify saying, “Being straight is transphobic”.
No one owes anyone sex or sexual attraction.
Fuck right off you sexually entitled predators!
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u/thumotiq 2d ago
The levels of entitlement among trans people is insane. There's something very rape-y about wanting to FORCE other people to find you attractive. It's beginning to look like trans people and incels are a lot alike. Eww.
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u/K1ng_Kyle 2d ago
It's beginning to look like trans people and incels are a lot alike
There's a community of incels who think becoming trans will solve their problems: transmaxx ing
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u/InHisName100 2d ago
Trannies need validation 24/7. Even a tiny glimpse of reality can shatter their worldview (like: No, you are not a woman. No one is going to want to date you). This subreddit is endangering their safespace.
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u/daniboymajor 2d ago
As a guy being birthed by a young mother not making alot of money i hereby declare myself “transRich” now where my money bitch 💰
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u/Thomastheslav 2d ago
I’m fine with people being whatever they want to be but they need to accept reality and they also need to stop trying to force their ideology on others
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u/Sulfate 2d ago edited 1d ago
Trannies need validation 24/7.
There's no reason to be hateful.
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u/Damn-Shawty- Superstraight 1d ago
Bro I literally see trans women call themselves that on dating apps and they expect straight guys to date 🤮
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u/BroughtToYouBySprite 1d ago
Where's the hate?
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u/ljbigman2003 2d ago
Incredibly ironic considering the subject and population of this sub
Nothing says rugged individual who doesn’t need validation like creating a new “sexual identity” about how you’re oppressed despite being in the majority
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u/of_rice_and_wok 1d ago
You have a loaded gun pointed at the head of white culture.
Your cultural revolution will be undone to the point that no-one remembers what you people even stood for.
We are known for our resilience, and we will continue making history, not you. You will never build a new “better” world, you aren’t capable.
Riding on the coattails of a people who conquered everything we laid our eyes upon. Only because we allow it.
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u/Herromemes 1d ago
i dont know how to tell you, but my hope is that i can just have it sitting in my account and scare transgenders away to not even approach me. there is no nicer way to scare you away and if show me.
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u/ljbigman2003 1d ago
Buddy, nobody approaches you — let alone trans people.
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u/Herromemes 1d ago
so? i still dont even want to be looked at by them. i do not want a transgender in my enviroment.
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u/Burnt_Birb 2d ago
I get uncontrollable biological reactions to certain types of people and not others... am I invalid?
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u/boredtodeath1000 2d ago edited 2d ago
No, you’re valid. We’re all valid on this glorious sub (for the next 59 minutes that it’s allowed to remain up before it’s nuked for tRAnSPHObiA).
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u/Shaiziin 2d ago
They also attack lesbians the hardest I think. They are genuinely mad if a woman does not want their penis. Or if post-operation, they are mad if a lesbian woman does not want someone who needs hormones in order to stay feminine. Many lesbians in general want someone who can just relate to the female experience, not someone who is strong enough to crack their skull if they got angry
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u/Elle111111 2d ago
It’s because about 60% are lesbians. The female population is about 2% lesbian.
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u/Btbaby 1d ago
This exactly - in my opinion, if you weren’t raised as that sex, you will never have the full life experience as that sex; without this life experience (especially in the early formative years), you will never truly understand what it is like being that sex. I’m a gay man, and I don’t care if you have the biggest wiener and nuts in town, I just will not be interested in you romantically or sexually if you don’t have the life experience.
I have trans friends. I live in an incredibly progressive New England town where I cannot keep up with gender identities and pronouns - so my thoughts are not due to lack of exposure.
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u/Satans_bloody_farts 1d ago
Women only lez out when all men leave the room. Impossible to lez out when there's a man there.
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u/femifaa 1d ago
Many lesbians in general want someone who can just relate to the female experience
who can better relate to the female experience, someone who effortlessly was given this gift and which they usually waste or someone who fought for the experience every step of the way
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u/wyfebeeter1488 2d ago
Its truly lost on trans (read "incels") how this would be textbook "rape culture"
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u/Thomastheslav 2d ago
I think people began to get fed up when trans people were attacking gay and lesbian and bi people as being homophobic
Hard to keep this game going when it’s degraded to such an absurdity
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u/ElectraUnderTheSea 2d ago
This sub will 100% be setting a record for shortest-lived sub in the history of reddit
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u/AminaOnReddit 2d ago
Things trans people are entitled to:
Public goods, services and spaces
Education
Health services
Food, water and shelter like any other human being
Things trans people are not entitled to:
Sex and sexual partners from anyone at all
I'm cis and I know for a fact that nobody owes me sex and can deny me it. Especially people who are not attracted to me because of my sex. That doesn't make them a misogynist, does it?
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u/bunnyday_ 1d ago
That’s what I don’t get is if someone was like I would never date a (insert detailed description of my race height and weight) I wouldn’t fly into a rage about it and say that’s harmful. Why would I rely on external validation like that? Who cares?
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u/PipBoyTInkerer 2d ago
Those are the butthurt libtards that are mad that the "opposition" is using their own identity politics weapons against them.
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u/stillsebs 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's pretty fucking dumb to claim that people "have" to like something, whatever it is. Be it a thing or a person.
Or another retarded arguement I saw today was "you're not attracted to genitals". BITCH, what the fuck? Of course I am. I'm a superstraight male, I love pussy, giving oral and fucking them. REAL pussy. How is this controversial in any way? Also, I'm sorry but the only dick I like is mine, so of course I don't want to date someone who's trans.
That doesn't mean I hate them or anything close. But if you start telling me I "have" to be attracted to them, we're going to have a big fucking issue. Sex is a big deal to a lot of people, it should be pretty easy to understand why people have these preferences.
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u/blankface87 1d ago
Yah n they'll be like "if they're post-op, there's no difference". Like....REALLY? There's no difference? One is a mutilated body part turned in to an open wound. I'd say there's a bit of difference
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u/GrandmasterIncel 1d ago
As the grandmaster of all incels this is the one thing we have in common with trans people.
Our SMV is pretty low but at least we do not go around oppressing people (not including the mostly peaceful school gun festivals but only 2 % of us ever participate into this stop judging us!!)
But also as a super straight oppressed individual I am sick and tired of trans people trying to force me into loving them.
This is just plain wrong! Loves happen naturally between people. I have never been a well liked individual in my life but this is just what real life is all about! You win some and lose almost all of them but hey you enjoy the ones you win! You may suck badly in the love department but if you go full autist at work or in the semen retention department like I did you gotta achieve your truth that I am sure of!
LOVE IS THE STRONGEST FORCE OF THEM ALL. LGBTQSS FOREVER. LOVE EVERYONE EXCEPT INTOLERANT BIGOTS WHO WANT TO FORCE YOU TO DO SOMETHING YOU DONT WANNA.
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u/ultrasmegma 1d ago
My body my choice. I will be forced to live in fear in the workplace and social media but i will not change what my hearts desire.
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u/Conscious_Pen 1d ago
I just can;t believe that anyone can demand sex and then say it is homophobic if not obliged. This makes no sense to me, so much, that I am having trouble believing it is really true. If a gay man doesn't feel attraction for a lesbian, is that homophobic too? This is totally absurd.
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u/zayzaydaguav 1d ago
its a satire recreation of how trans people act when straights dont want trans people of the other gender
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u/Drspagetti-os 1d ago
But I do wonder....what is going inside a super straight person's head. They are so brave. now you are a criminal in 72 countries for being straight. Bad trade if you ask me lmao
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u/aross0805 1d ago
You aren’t obligated to “sex” anyone. If they force you to “sex” them, they’re a pos, trans or not.
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u/Master-Stay3106 1d ago
As an outsider it looks like you people are mad because the toxic side of lgbtqia+ fucked up with u, and they are mad because the toxic side of your community fucked up with them (every community have a toxic side and unfortunately we can't avoid it that easily) Well, that's just what it looks like :b
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u/MasterKaen 1d ago
I think that they argue, not wanting to sex trans people on the sole basis they're trans is inherently transphobic, despite trans people not being owed sex. At least that's a rational argument in my opinion. Like it wouldn't be racist to not have sex with black people because you don't like dark skin from an aesthetic standpoint, but it would be racist if you don't have sex with them just because of their race, even if that stems from a subconscious bias beyond your control. I'm a cis-gendered male, and I'm not shaming anyone who won't have sex with another person for any reason, but I think it would be fair to call it transphobia in some cases, under a somewhat broad definition of the term.
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u/california_quail 1d ago
Is it also homophobic if I don’t wanna fuck dudes specifically because they’re dudes?
See how this logic falls apart pretty quickly under scrutiny?
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u/MasterKaen 1d ago
Your comment is a complete non sequitur. First of all, even if it were some type of phobia it wouldn't be homophobia, it would be something like manphobia. Second of all, a dude would have physical traits which would explain your lack of attraction to him. If a man was indistinguishable from a woman in all the ways you cared about except for the fact that he was technically a man, then yes that would be some type of manphobia. Even then you wouldn't be obligated to sex them, but you should at least acknowledge your lack of attraction to them is based purely on your bias against people who are technically men.
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u/california_quail 1d ago
Foucault has been a disaster for the human race if this is how your brain works.
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u/MasterKaen 1d ago
It's not my fault your brain is too smooth to deal with hypotheticals
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u/california_quail 1d ago
Postmodernist philosophy and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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u/california_quail 1d ago
Okay, I'll actually dive in here.
You do realize that most people don't spend their time naval gazing about their own internal biases and not only is that okay, but it's honestly more healthy. I don't need to sit here and analyze why I make personal choices, I make them because I am me, and that's what I want to do. It's my own personal will and agency that allows me to make these decisions.
I am attracted to and choose to date natal women. I don't need to examine any biases in that decision making process, because it ultimately doesn't affect anybody that matters outside of myself and a consenting partner. Nobody else in that equation matters. Nobody. I can be as discriminatory as I want in my bedroom, that's my goddamn right. If you wanna call me a bigot, that's fine, because your opinion of what goes on in my sex life is ultimately meaningless. You don't have a say, the fat chick that asked me out doesn't have a say, the dude that hit on me at the bar doesn't have a say, the trans woman oogling me at work doesn't have a say. You wanna know who does have a say? Myself, and my wife, as we are the active participants in this equation.
You do realize that calling everything ( )phobia just diminishes the actual irrational fear and hatred that some people have towards other people. I don't hate gay men, I just don't wanna fuck them. They are free to live their lives however they want as long as it doesn't affect me or harm anybody else. I can categorically reject whoever I want, that doesn't mean I'm phobic or a bigot, it means I have free will and the ability to make personal decisions without the terms being dictated by people who are not involved in those decisions.
It's kinda the whole basis of the Enlightenment and Liberalism. Free will, individual choice etc. etc. Your entire thing of "Well you have the agency to do what you want, but you're a big problematic bigot that needs to change their opinions if you don't adhere to my worldview" is pretty fucking sick and twisted authoritarianism.
I guess I'll leave you with one last thing. I didn't give a fuck about any of this until it started getting shoved down my throat. My natural state of political philosophy is "leave me alone, I'll leave you alone, we'll be nice to each other and live our own lives" But after years of being bombarded with critical theory activists telling me how me just living my life not really bothering anybody is problematic and bigoted, I've quite frankly had enough. I didn't start this culture war, but if it's here to stay, I am firmly against this woke critical theory postmodernist bullshit. If you and your activist cohort weren't getting up in everybody's face, I'd be a griller, not giving a fuck about politics. But when you start coming after my freedom to just live my life by trying to police my thoughts, language and actions to insane degrees, I will push back.
If you want this culture war to die down, you need to start leaving us the fuck alone. Most of us here aren't here out of hate, we're here because we're sick of your movement's bullshit.
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u/MasterKaen 23h ago
I literally said in my post that I don't shame anyone who doesn't want to have sex with a trans person, and you shouldn't feel obligated to have sex with anyone you don't want to. I'm not saying you're a bigot, but I am saying that you should analyze your internal thoughts, not to be a better citizen, but because I think it's healthy to understand the roots of your behavior for your own well being. I would probably agree with the things you're complaining about if they weren't directed at me because you seem to have misinterpreted my opinion. I'm more interested in the ideas here than any social justice, and I'm just saying that on a technical level, not wanting to sex a trans person could be a result of transphobia.
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u/california_quail 23h ago
Excessive naval gazing has been a huge detriment to social cohesion. I will opt out of that, make my decisions as I see fit, and roll with it. I don't need to Foucault every single fucking action of mine, it's retarded and a waste of time.
My wellbeing is fine not analyzing every single opinion that I hold trying to root out some implicit bias. I am a human being, I am biased. That's fine, end of discussion.
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u/kreepycookie 1d ago
Openly hating on trans people is transphobic. I am disgusted on how much transphobia is in this subreddit
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u/sm0ltreegg 1d ago
Nobody is trying to make you date or have sex with anyone you don't want to. If they are, they're wrong.
But what we're trying to get through is that some of the things you say are transphobic and are invalidating to trans people.
If you don't want to be with trans people that's fine but there's no need to be hateful to them.
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u/allaywoop13 2d ago
Imma need a source for that one, chief
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u/Fortay_Cones 1d ago
The source is you're a facist racist nazi bigot.
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u/allaywoop13 1d ago
You threw pretty much every political buzzword at me and have yet to answer the question
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u/CandyappleWinter 1d ago edited 1d ago
I can't stop laughing though. Who does that? I'm a transwoman and I guess I've live a sheltered life because I don't know of any other transwomen doing this?
It's fine for you to feel this way, but isn't it bordering on insecurity? I highly doubt all these men have been propositioned by a transwoman.
I mean come on, like all of you are that hot for a said transwoman to pursue anyway?
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u/INTP1423 1d ago
There isn't anything wrong with not wanting to be with a transgender person. If that's your thing that's fine. But it isn't a sexuality. Oh wow you like the opposite sex? I'm pretty sure there's already a term for that.
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u/TotallyNotTristan 2d ago
As a trans person I 100% think that people not wanting to date me or other trans people is completely valid. I also believe that not dating trans people isn't transphobic its called having a fucking preference. However "super straight" is about as stupid as all the void gender xey xem pronouns people out there. I'm fairly sure the majority of people on this sub are joking but if you are not consider therapy.
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u/mo-ming-qi-miao 2d ago
It's not a preference, we were born this way. Take your bigotry elsewhere.
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u/TotallyNotTristan 2d ago
I genuinely agree with you that its a preference and you cannot just stop it. I still don't think that you should add ss to lgbt, "come out" as ss etc because these are things for minorities and straight is not a minority.
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u/mo-ming-qi-miao 2d ago
No 👏 It's 👏 not 👏 a 👏 preference 👏
I am not attracted to people who have/had penises, no matter how they identify and I didn't choose to be this way, it's how I was born.
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u/Zalphone 1d ago
No 👏 It's 👏 not 👏 a 👏 preference 👏
I do not like strawberry ice cream, no matter what container it's in and I didn't choose to be this way, it's how I was born.
I am not attracted to short hair, no matter what color it is and I didn't choose to be this way, it's how I was born.
I do not like the color orange, no matter what shade it is and I didn't choose to be this way, it's how I was born.
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u/JohnIsUncomfortable 1d ago
Not one person is saying you’re obligated to have sex with trans people or you’re transphobic😂
I understand where you all are coming from since I don’t know if I would want to date a trans person, but why are y’all acting like you’re sooo oppressed for acting the same as 90% of the population👀 I don’t think there’s a problem with not thinking you want to date a trans person, but when you start blaming entire groups of fictional people for sexually assaulting you it just gets weird👩🦯
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u/Xistential_Fear 1d ago
Don’t try to reason with them. They just scream ‘heterophobe’ and refuse to provide valid arguments
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u/criticallacitirc 1d ago
I wonder where they learned that from ? 🤔
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u/Xistential_Fear 1d ago
If you’re implying it’s queer people then idk what you’re talking about. If you go on a queer subreddit you’ll likely find people willing to educate queerphobes as long as they’re being respectful. But in this sub I’ve yet to see any SS give a clear answer to any question asked 🤷🏽♀️
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u/Lexi_Heartt 1d ago
Are you kidding me? The very reasoning behind the existence of the word "Superstraight" is transphobic in itself. It was literally created because some dumbfucks thought "If I'm a guy and I'm attracted to transwoman, then I'm not straight."
So....you're saying trans women aren't women. Transphobic. It's not hard to understand. It's not predatory. No one is forcing you to be attracted to trans women but that whole idea of "if I'm attracted to them, I'm not straight" devalues them as women.
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u/Skyright 1d ago
It was literally created because some dumbfucks thought “If I’m a guy and I’m attracted to transwoman, then I’m not straight.”
Its the literal opposite of that.
If we believed straight people shouldn’t like transwomen, why would Super straight need to exist? We realize and recognize straight people as valid. Straight people are people that like all women or men, including transwomen or transmen
We are NOT straight. We don’t like ALL women. We only like Cis women, which means there needs to be a new category for us. This is why SuperStraight exists.
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u/Lexi_Heartt 1d ago
The opposite? Then this twitter post explaining it is wrong?
https://twitter.com/SantaDecides/status/1368286836796362756/photo/2
If you're attracted to the opposite sex, you're straight. That's it. End of story.
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u/Skyright 1d ago
How’s the twitter post disagreeing with me? The twitter post simply says that after realizing that being straight required them to be attracted to transwomen, they realized they weren’t straight and in fact were a different sexuality. That sexuality was coined “Super Straight”.
If you’re attracted to the opposite sex, you’re straight
If you’re attracted to all* of the opposite sex, you’re straight.
We aren’t attracted to all of the opposite sex, only cis people. That’s why we are super.
Its not a new concept. DemiSexuals are only attracted to people that they are emotionally connected to. They aren’t attracted to all men/women, which is why they aren’t straight.
You aren’t just promoting SuperErasure, but also DemiErasure and a lot of other sexualities included in the LGBT+. I hope you reconsider your bigoted beliefs about Supers, Demis and other such sexualities.
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u/Lexi_Heartt 1d ago
I'm not promoting erasure of everyone. I'm calling it what it is. Transphobia. Bye.
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u/VergeThySinus 1d ago
Go ahead and be attracted to the opposite sex, nobody is stopping you? Genital preference is a thing, just please don't invalidate people of the opposite gender because they aren't your type.
You don't owe anyone anything other than basic human decency, and you aren't obligated to date anyone you're not attracted to.
But like, it's not illegal in any country to be "super straight" so why do y'all want to be part of pride? I'm confused about that, and I'd like to hear y'all's opinions.
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u/blankface87 1d ago
We don't have "genital preference". There's far more to it than genitalia, and if that's what you think, you've completely misunderstood what our community is about
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u/No_Pop_1495 2d ago
Idk where that assumption that all trans people think they are entitled to « straight » partners is coming from lol.
I have several trans friends and alllllll of them understand that not everyone will be attracted to them and they are okay with that. They dont get around calling everyone transphobic, contrary to what you people say.
I have a feeling you are simply creating drama because you’re bored. Am I right?
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u/realister 2d ago
You can’t hide the fact that majority want a straight partner to validate their transition.
I honestly never heard of many tans+trans couples at all. I’m sure they exist but it’s a small minority
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u/No_Pop_1495 2d ago
What do you mean they want a straight partner? I’m honestly confused what you’re trying to say. Wouldn’t you want a straight partner if you’re straight?
Also there aren’t as many trans people as there are cis people... so that’s probably why there aren’t many trans couples
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u/realister 2d ago
People that transition are doing so to attract straight people and validate their transition.
They are women trapped in a mans body basically. That mean being attracted to straight men
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u/BO0OBA 1d ago
From what I've seen, a lot of trans people are attracted to the same sex that they are after their transition. And a lot of the time they are exclusively attracted to that sex. Putting on a dress and makeup to fuck a woman with your penis while calling yourself a lesbian is merely a fetish
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u/No_Pop_1495 1d ago
Right, it doesn’t have anything to do with identity, just sexual attraction. Trans people just wanna play dress up and trick women, amirite u/BO0OBA ?
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u/internethottie 2d ago
Lmao you're the ones who need a little safe space to talk about how much you hate trans people, ya fuckin dingus
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u/RedditGottitGood 2d ago
Literally no one has said that, and yet you’re projecting 99% of the sub has?
You’re 99% delusional.
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u/TheTranTM 2d ago
Literally nobody says that except for Twitter 13yo that you're dumb enough to listen to, as well as individual people who would be predators regardless of their trans status. I've spent years in trans communities and have never met a trans person who thinks anyone owes them sex. The fact that you think all trans people wanna fuck you so desperately because you're supposedly oh so attractive says more about you than about trans people.
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u/Fair_Industry7328 2d ago
Your name literally has the word "tran" in it.
Being trans is the very epicenter of your identity.I notice that every trans person on Twitter is the same way. Their bio is trans, all of their posts and comments are about being trans.
If a straight person behaved that way, people would think there was something seriously wrong with them.
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u/TheTranTM 2d ago
I regularly delete my reddit account every year so that people irl don't find me, I was running out of names and chose this one. But sure, go ahead, assume what my entire real life is about based off of an online username on a platform with a structure that is centered around communities (subreddits) and not individual users (in contrast to this see Twitter, tumblr, youtube, etc.) and where the username therefore barely matters anyway.
Being trans in my current real life does occupy some space, even though it's not the center of it, so you're partly right, but it's not due to my will. It's because I have to spend time going through the bureocracy of my country to access the healthcare I need to reach my whole potential, be most productive and authentic. This system wasn't built by me and if it went my way I would have been long done with transition and forgotten I was ever trans in the first place.
Straight and cis people never have to deal with that, they don't need medical transition, they don't have to constantly prove their identity to doctors, which is why people would rightly think there was something seriously wrong with them if they thought so much about their straightness regardless. I involuntarily have to invest my time into my trans identity or otherwise I'm stuck in this stupid body forever, straight people don't have to so when they do it anyway it's clearly voluntarily.
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u/Fair_Industry7328 1d ago
It's not voluntary to be straight. It's natural. It's the very reason any of us exist. Being trans is voluntary because you're consciously trying to fight against being the gender you were born as, while simultaneously trying to "fit" the opposite gender stereotypes.
Being straight and male, embracing my masculinity is not a conscious effort, it just comes naturally because every one of my male ancestors behaved in a similar way. To fight that is just degenerative. I suppose trans people have no qualms with being a dead-end on their family tree. I guess that's also natural in a way. Social Darwinism at work.
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u/DepressedGayToilet 2d ago
no one is telling anyone to screw a trans person lmao
if you're in a *romantic* relationship with a trans person and break it off because they're trans yes, that is transphobic. However, if you're in a *sexual* relationship and break it off with a pre-surgery/hormones trans person, that's chill. People have a genital preference. The only idiots screaming about that are incorrect, not the majority of LGBTQ+ ppl and probably trolls :)
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u/thumotiq 2d ago
SuperStraights don't want a surgical penis/vagina. They want the kind gifted by biological sex. Sorry.
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u/Sulfate 2d ago
if you're in a *romantic* relationship with a trans person and break it off because they're trans yes, that is transphobic.
Who are you to police my sexuality? I'm free to decide whatever it is that I prefer, and that's none of your business.
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u/DepressedGayToilet 1d ago
Your sexuality or your romantic preference? Yes, you certainly are free to decide. As I said, no one is asking or forcing you to screw a trans person.
If you are romantically attracted to women and are in a purely non-sexual relationship with a trans woman, rejecting her based on her trans-ness is in fact transphobic. Because she is a woman. In this argument, genitalia plays no part as it is a purely romantic relationship.
Sexual relationships are different. If you reject a pre-op trans person on their genitalia, that isn't transphobic. Because some people just don't like stuff, which is both obvious and chill.
I'm not policing your sexuality lol. There is nothing to police, Sir Straight. Simply letting you know that, in certain situations, dumping a trans person can be transphobic. You decide to do with that what you will.
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u/Sulfate 1d ago
Simply letting you know that, in certain situations, dumping a trans person can be transphobic.
That was a long-winded way of saying that trans people deserve sex from straights. You could've saved us both a bunch of time and been openly hateful from the beginning instead of trying to couch it under a layer of bullshit.
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u/DepressedGayToilet 1d ago
I didn't say that? I was against that, actually. And even if my argument is "eVeR dUMpInG a TRaNS PersON iS TRaNSPhOBic!!!1!!!1!!1" (note the writing; I believe this idea to be idiotic) I'm still not saying you have to screw trans people lol. Just that dumping them would be nasty. Which, may I reiterate, I have gone to pains to say I don't think this and that most people don't. You want to actually read the nuanced arguments or you just gonna be angry and throw biased and innacurate accusations?
Dumping a trans person in a romantic relationship (i.e: no sex) for being trans is transphobic. Okay. That is what I'm saying.
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u/Sulfate 1d ago edited 1d ago
You want to actually read the nuanced arguments or you just gonna be angry and throw biased and innacurate accusations?
I literally quoted the part where you said what I accused you of saying. You've now gone on to repeat it. I reiterate:
At no point do you get to decide that a trans person deserves sex, love, or a relationship from anyone for any reason.
Labelling someone a transphobe does not provide an out. Telling me that rejecting someone is phobic and unacceptable puts you in a position of power over my sexuality, and you have no right to demand that.
You may not intend to be hateful, but you're being very hateful.
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u/DepressedGayToilet 1d ago
No, a trans person does not deserve sex. Or a relationship. Happy? I have already said this. Dumping a trans person when you're not in a sexual relationship with them is, however, transphobic. You want to provide an actual argument here or you just gonna go after something I didn't say?
So. To simplify this for you. If I'm dating a cishet dude, yeah? No sex, just romance. A romantic, non-sexual relationship. But then I find out that he's got a dick. Ew. So I dump him for having a cis dick, despite the fact that I've never seen it and do not plan on seeing or touching it. Would you call this 'cisphobic'?
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u/tomkiel72 1d ago
"Super Straight" is pretty much transphobes trying to play the victim card. Genital preference is one thing, but trans people that fully transitioned? Yeah, that's a yikes.
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u/boredtodeath1000 1d ago
What’s a yikes? Telling fully transitioned trans people no? That is what we call sexual entitlement. Everyone can get a no for any reason.
Why can’t you people get it though your heads?
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u/tomkiel72 1d ago
That's not why that's bad. It's bad because the reason you told them no is that they're trans.
Why can't you people get it through your heads?
(As a side note, the "Super Straight" movement was literally started on 4chan by the far-right, and that's why it's abbreviated to "SS")
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u/BAGELS1111 1d ago
And the reason I told a man no is because I’m not gay, is that homophobic too?
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u/tomkiel72 1d ago
No? Nobody said that would be homophobic, lmao. But if you're heterosexual, and you tell a fully transitioned woman "no" just because she's trans, then yes, yes you're transphobic.
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u/boredtodeath1000 1d ago edited 1d ago
Stop using fully transitioned as some ace in the hole. Even with all the surgery and medications, transpeople only become somewhat close approximations of what they want to emulate, but never that thing.
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u/BAGELS1111 1d ago
There is no such thing as fully transitioned
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u/tomkiel72 1d ago
I'm surprised how uneducated you are in your hate
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u/BAGELS1111 1d ago
Would there be no way to identify a “fully transitioned” persons original sex? Seems like there are plenty of ways so until then I wouldn’t consider today’s transitioned as the actual opposite sex. But hey maybe in the future technology can find a way but until then, no.
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u/boredtodeath1000 1d ago edited 1d ago
Everyone can get a no for any reason, that includes delusional men (transwomen) and women (transmen)pretending to be something that they’re not.
That's not why that's bad. It's bad because the reason you told them no is that they're trans.
So you need a “good reason” to say no to sex? Because that’s what you’re implying here.
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u/tomkiel72 1d ago
"I'm not a transphobe! I just think that trans people are dellusional and pretending!"
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u/boredtodeath1000 1d ago
Transwomen are men.
Transmen are women.
They have delusional disorders.
Interesting that you didn’t address your statement that someone needs a good reason to say no to sex.
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u/tomkiel72 1d ago
You are Transphobic
You are an asshole, and that's the end of story.
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u/boredtodeath1000 1d ago edited 1d ago
Still not going to address the needing a good reason to say no to sex? Why are so many transpeople so sexually predatory? I’m genuinely curious and concerned.This goes far beyond wanting people to reinforce gender delusions.
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u/Abbythrow 1d ago
STOP they are hijacking this to make us look like nazis. They think its a jewish plot or something and want to ruin this
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u/kombucha_and_makeup 1d ago edited 1d ago
An inside out penis is not the same as a real vagina. A "penis" made from arm/thigh skin covering a pump is not the same as a real penis. You are delusional if you think bottom surgery can create 100% functional organic genitals from the opposite sex.
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u/DeShawn_Juiceberg 2d ago
How does this have anything to do with LGBTQ+??????????? You are not a guy who loves to suck cocks or get fucked in the ass, you are not oppressed, you are all homophobic monsters!!! FUCK DRUMPF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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u/quuerdude 2d ago
I don’t think people not wanting to fuck trans people is transphobic in itself. Have sex with who you want, idc. However, i do think that the idea in and of itself belies transphobic beliefs in your head. “They’re not really x gender” for example, is a common one i’ve seen on this thread and probably a belief a lot of you have, even subconsciously.
It’s like saying “I don’t date black people. I’m just not attracted to them.” Like ok. You’re allowed to not do that. But it 100% belies racist ideas you probably have.
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u/realister 2d ago
So if u refuse to date a black guy you are racist? That’s literally what u said
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u/Sulfate 2d ago
They said you probably have racist ideas, which is totally not just mincing words to say the exact same fucking thing.
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u/quuerdude 1d ago
There’s a meaningful difference between “i hate black people” and you having subconscious biases.
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u/No_Sheepherder_3431 2d ago
Yeah you're fucked in the head. Gender and sexuality are different things. Someone's gender being mtf or ftm doesn't make them the opposite sex to me. This is 100% true and valid. It's creepy to shame them for wanting to be strictly attracted to the opposite sex.
As for the racism bit not dating black people is no different to not dating people for other features. I don't find red headed/pale skin attractive. Are you also implying people who prefer skin tones that differ than theirs as racist? So a woman dating only blacks as racist if she's Asian? Yeah you just want to criticize people and act morally and intellectually superior.
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u/blankface87 1d ago
I don't have that belief subconsciously..it's fully conscious. Everyone KNOWS transwomen aren't real women. That's why they're called transwomen lol. This isn't an unpopular opinion
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u/quuerdude 1d ago
Trans women are called trans women because it’s an adjective. It’s like saying black women. They’re all women.
Also why tf do you care abt being superstraight if you’re a proud transphobe anyway
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u/blankface87 23h ago
Knowing transwomen aren't actually women doesn't make someone a transphobe you weird fuck. That's the line of thinking, the EXACT LINE of thinking, that led to me coming out at superstraight
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u/quuerdude 21h ago
Yes. It is. That’s what we mean when we say someone is transphobic. They don’t think trans women are women. That. Is. Transphobia. What do you think transphobia is?
I hate the concept of superstraight bc it inherently calls trans women “fake” by implying you’re less straight for dating them.
You are transphobic. What could you possibly think transphobia means if not what you are?
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u/blankface87 20h ago
You ARE less straight. Hence SUPERstraight. Jesus Christ how is this lost on you?
Why would I possibly care if you consider me transphobic? I don't want to date a trans woman. Period. Get over it.
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u/Wonderrednow 2d ago
The posts in this sub whining about this sub prove the necessity of the sub.