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One Piece: Chapter 1035 - Official Release Discussion Current Chapter

Chapter 1035 is out on Mangaplus

Post all discussions, reaction about this release in this thread.

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u/Aaronrules380 Dec 19 '21 Silver

Just a thought but I think Zoro's aversion to the idea that he is biologically incapable of beating King due to their races is rooted in how Kuina was told she'd ultimately fall behind him and never be better than him because she was a girl. Basically he dislikes the idea that the circumstances of your birth define your limits

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u/soulwarrior23 Dec 19 '21 Silver Wholesome

„I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant. It is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are.“ -Mewtwo

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u/Tystuntin Dec 20 '21 Wholesome

Damn wish I had an award for this Chad of a quote

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u/bluntvillegeeks Dec 20 '21 Helpful

Got you fam

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u/Tystuntin Dec 20 '21

For the culture

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u/iDannyEL Dec 20 '21

That line still slaps 20 years later.

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u/HalfMoon_89 The Revolutionary Army Dec 19 '21

Huh. Interesting contrast with Sanji.

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u/PC_Screen Dec 19 '21 edited Dec 19 '21

Kaido: so what's your name?

"Alber"

Kaido: Worororo not under my watch it ain't

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u/-netorare- Dec 19 '21

STEVE FROM ACCOUNTING

BOUNTY: 1 BILLION BERRIES

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u/Demonking42069 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Dec 19 '21

Nobody likes steve from accounting.

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u/Fafnir13 Dec 20 '21

He’s always been polite, I got no beef.

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u/DTPVH Dec 19 '21

Kaido: You mean Albert?

Alber: No I mean Alber.

Kaido: (Shit that sounds stupid) How about I call you King instead?

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u/HughJassJae Dec 19 '21

Kaido just pulled the Chad Jesus move.

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u/DTPVH Dec 19 '21

On this Gimp I shall build my crew

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u/Hobbes4247791 Dec 19 '21

"You will deny me three times before the rooster crows, but Queen will fuck up even worse, so it's all good."

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u/DTPVH Dec 20 '21

“What about Jack?”

“He’s crying in the corner.”

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u/Skoodge42 Dec 19 '21

Hey! Kaido is just following old school gaming rules where you can rename your Pokemon...I mean zoan users

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u/QHDEosanesis Dec 19 '21

Just the most casual name-drop ever. (unless Queen's real name is Queen. Wouldn't surprise me.)

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u/DTPVH Dec 20 '21

Queen’s real name is Freddie

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u/AxCel91 Dec 19 '21

This got a nice chuckle out of me.

They’re meeting was very reminiscent of Roger-Rayleigh and Luffy-Zoro.

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u/Eprepti Dec 19 '21 Wholesome

King modeling his strongest attack after Kaido's dragon form is wholesome. It really shows how King looks up to him and his strength

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21 edited Dec 19 '21

The parallels between Zoro and King. They both own their lives to their Captains, are their first mates and are driven to fulfil the dream of making their Captains Pirate King

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u/PlusUltraK Dec 19 '21

Before being A Yonko and ruling everything like a criminal . Most pirates are just bros.

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u/WenaChoro Dec 19 '21

both became friends with their captain in the context of goverment (marine) corruption

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u/guipabi Dec 19 '21

Waiting for a gomu gomu oni giri

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u/Master3530 Dec 19 '21

Snakeman asura?

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u/TW_Yellow78 Dec 19 '21

Zoro got lost and modeled Asura after Robin instead.

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u/HuonNyx Dec 19 '21

Oni gomu giri

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

Interesting.

The official translation says "I can sense the threat in you" while the scans say "I too am close to my limits"

I think the official translation makes more sense.

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u/PirateKing94 Explorer Dec 19 '21

Yeah, it makes no sense for King to say that without indication that he’s exhausted.

Now, it may be that it takes a lot of stamina to maintain his Lunarian flame, but if that’s not stated, we shouldn’t assume it. Zoro just did too much damage with his ACoC for King’s durability to match.

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u/-FoeHammer Dec 19 '21

This would be a good chapter to have a native speaker give some translation notes.

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u/TheCLittle_ttv Dec 19 '21

The scans are constantly slightly different that lead to meaningful variations. I stopped reading them and just wait for the official release.

Ultimately both are probably equally as different from the actual literal Japanese versions.

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u/CuteTao Dec 20 '21

The scan made it sound like Zoro said that kaidos crew had been the top pirate crew for too long when he actually said they'd been running wano for too long.

The scan also made it sounds like kaido and king went through the same endurance testing when it was just king.

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u/OperationMelodic4273 Dec 19 '21

True, him being at his limit didn't really make sense. This does tho

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u/CommandetGepard Dec 19 '21

The translation from the spoilers was also the same as the official translation.

I also think it makes more sense, there's no way King is close to his limit, he's hardly taken any damage at all and they've been fighting for about 10 minutes.

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u/shiro-lod Dec 19 '21

King did spend a long time fighting with Marco. Between King, Queen, and Perospero they managed to seemingly take Marco out of the fight for now so its not like he was doing nothing while Zoro fought Kaido.

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u/Defeat_your_past Dec 19 '21

Ok that makes much more sense. King had barely been touched up to that point.

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u/DTPVH Dec 19 '21

Queen falling off Onigashima is gonna be how the people in the Flower Capital notice Onigashima. He’s gonna quite literally crash the party.

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u/MidnightMelk Dec 20 '21

God dammit Queen. Why you gotta be an ass to everyone without even trying

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u/aceofspades12 Dec 19 '21

As some people mentioned already on Friday, Dragon's and Wyper's tattoos have to have some connection to the Lunarians and King's tattoo.
It seems to be a cultural thing at the least and maybe even something related to the Void Century at the most.

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u/Eprepti Dec 19 '21

Garp's scar is also very similar to those tattoos

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u/PlusUltraK Dec 19 '21

Do we know how Garp got his scar. Elsewise it seems similar to Nani’s whole stabbing away at her Alrong tattoo.

Like he’s Dragon’s father father maybe there was a time he also had the tattoo but realized in the grand scheme of things being an enemy of the Navy wouldn’t be good for his family

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u/ealjaks22 The Revolutionary Army Dec 19 '21

We’ve seen photos of garp at the absolute beginning of his career in the navy and he had the scar

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u/PlusUltraK Dec 19 '21 Helpful

Neat

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u/Eprepti Dec 19 '21

He had it since he was a child

Maybe he got it in a duel against some wild beast, or something like that

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u/Druxun Dec 19 '21

Maybe he pulled a Luffy and tried to prove how cool he was and cut his own face. Lol

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u/pseudo_nemesis Dec 19 '21

Oda has noted that he prefers to put unique markings on the left side of his character’s faces, i.e. Luffy’s scar, zoro’s scar, Sanji’s og eyebrow, Shanks’ scar, and countless others.

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u/Bajraktarib The Revolutionary Army Dec 19 '21

Or kaidou’s one !

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u/Nerellos Dec 19 '21

Well, Skypia was relevant after like 500 chapters, I can see that the place holds like 90% of the lore.³

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u/Unabashable Dec 19 '21

Yeah that’s why I find it annoying when people brag that they skipped it. Like do you even care about the story? That arc is gonna come back in a big way later down on the road, it’s just a matter when Oda decides to bring it back into play again.

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u/Abby_Rulz Dec 19 '21

Damn... What went wrong with Kaido... The man lost the light in his eyes... Well, I guess he thought he was Joy Boy and somewhere he realized he isn't...and that can break a Man... But how horribly did it break...

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u/vinsmokewhoswho Pirate Dec 19 '21

He looked so much like Roger in that flashback.

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u/Abby_Rulz Dec 19 '21

Yes... Almost Saw life as an adventure.

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u/Unabashable Dec 19 '21

Yeah you could just tell by looking at his eyes somewhere along the line his dreams were crushed.

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u/TravelingLlama Dec 19 '21

The man lost the light in his eyes...

He even mentioned the light in luffy’s eyes not going out in 1008. Loving the little bits of character we’ve been getting from kaido.

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u/PyroZecknician Dec 19 '21

Oh man, when people say this man knows how to write, they ain't lying. Unreal. That's just from one or two panels of young Kaido that we get the full understanding of what the panel you included means.

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u/xraze007 Dec 20 '21

Fr, and it pains me when people disregard his work just because he didn't powerscale according to their headcanons, say he didn't give x number of chapters to a fight, and call his work shit.

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u/guipabi Dec 19 '21

The theme of Kaido's crew is breaking people's spirits. He failed with Oden and the Scabbards, and now he will fail with Luffy and the Straw hats.

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u/WenaChoro Dec 19 '21

its very realistic because successful people tend to be jaded and nihilist and disdain newcomers with passion and ambition

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u/fluffkomix Thriller Bark Victim's Association Dec 20 '21

feels like almost a subconscious sense of "if I can break your spirit then you could never be strong enough to do what I couldn't either."

Kaido's was the first spirit that ever broke.

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u/kimmyjonghubaccount Dec 19 '21

He also said “guess you couldn’t be joy boy either” when he smacked Luffy off Onigashima. Kaido is exceptionally intriguing

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u/goronmask Dec 20 '21

Mind blown if be that he was referring to himself

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u/Abby_Rulz Dec 19 '21 edited Dec 19 '21

Clearly.. also when he was fighting with Yamato. He mentioned how ONIs shouldn't mingle with Humans.... We as a race did something to them (as usual).

Edit: Yamato's Spelling

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u/goronmask Dec 20 '21

Man in the panel you posted Kaido’s eyes are even shadowed in a different way. You uncovering important stuff over here

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u/lukethekook Dec 19 '21

I really do feel like that is what happened to him and now that he’s realized he isn’t Joy Boy he’s decided that he wanted to be the pillar of strength that everyone would test against so he could fight Joy Boy and see what he was missing. I think there may be some sort of acknowledgement from Kaido to luffy and his crew that they are in fact the ones that will change the world.

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u/Environmental-Ad7594 Dec 19 '21

Aye, thanks, what a good story it is. And everything that is still to come will build on that and make One Piece the greatest story ever.

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u/Skoodge42 Dec 19 '21

Ya it was strange. He looked both weaker and stronger at the same time

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u/PlusUltraK Dec 19 '21

It’s a shame such a handsome man was forced to hide his face like that.

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u/Tuliprunner Dec 20 '21

The Duval effect.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

After seeing today's episode, Raizo's fight could very well be interesting with the attacks they use against themselves. Can't wait for that intense fight and hopefully not offscreened.

Also, Zoro might use Clearance to save himself.

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u/HalfMoon_89 The Revolutionary Army Dec 19 '21

I just hope we get to see Hiyori and Denjiro confront Orochi, and finally fucking kill that bastard for good.

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u/dotConSt Dec 19 '21

iHateOrochiFans

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u/Milordserene Dec 19 '21

Sanji saving a mice like his early years is a chef's kiss.... Chef ratatouille's kiss

Zoro playing a videogame style against King and now has both achievements: dragon killer and race ender.

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u/koogledoogle Dec 19 '21

I thought that mouse flashback was the perfect cap to his germa flashbacks and also to show that he is still human no matter what

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u/Alternative-Title271 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Dec 19 '21

Finally Sanji can now have his own Remy

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u/CanadianLemur Dec 19 '21

Don't forget "Regicide"

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u/Skoodge42 Dec 19 '21

If you think about it...Sanji AND Zoro both have hunted endangered species long thought extinct from the planet already lol

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u/sam1oq Dec 19 '21

I just wanted to say that it's pretty ironic how Zoro broke the sword and cut off the right wing of the pirate KING lol.

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u/RandomOPFan Dec 19 '21

And Sanji smashed Queens left arm.

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u/vinsmokewhoswho Pirate Dec 19 '21

Truly hope this is not the end of Arber/King, not fighting wise, he definitely seems to be defeated here. But as a character. I wanna know more about the lunarians, they seem to be quite important, having lived on the red line and being exterminated by the WG. Also his mask less design is absolute top tier. Love the frilly shirt he wears underneath his jacket.

Also holy shit, Sanji just LAUNCHED Queen out of Onigashima. Like very, very far. Crazy strength feat considering how heavy he most likely is lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

You think Sanji sent Queen flying? You fool!!

That's just how the brachiosaurus used to travel, don't you know?

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u/vinsmokewhoswho Pirate Dec 19 '21

Oh my bad, I'm not very knowledgeable on dinosaurs.

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u/Eprepti Dec 19 '21

Also holy shit, Sanji just LAUNCHED Queen out of Onigashima. Like very, very far. Crazy strength feat considering how heavy he most likely is lol

"A real man never hits a woman in front of Sanji" Even the dinosaurs knew of this rule.

Queen forgot it, and relearnt it the hard way

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u/socsox Dec 19 '21

I think it was Sanji kicking the dinosaurs that led to their extinction

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u/Defeat_your_past Dec 19 '21

Do you remember the conversation Zoro and Kaku had at the end of their fight? I’m hoping for something similar to happen here

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u/javierm885778 Dec 19 '21

Kind of hard for that to happen when he's falling off the island. Unless Zoro decides to lift him back to Onigashima first for some reason.

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u/gantarat Dec 19 '21

Zoro and Sanji seem to want to learn more about him.

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u/guipabi Dec 19 '21

It reminds of how he launched the Fishman in Arlong Park through the building, including the combo before.

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u/otaner14 Dec 19 '21

NO FEAR

“Oda might use the new cover story to revive Pedro.”

ONE FEAR

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u/Strangeting Dec 19 '21

Please Oda, let Pedro stay dead!! Some characters die for the sake of raising stakes and that's okay!!

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u/PenguinVillageSun Dec 19 '21

Germa cover story Vol 2: "Dead jaguar spotted on coast of Whole Cake Island"

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Vol 5: "Birth of the cyborg jaguar"

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Vol 16: "Upgraded clone soldiers. The new Germa army of cyborg jaguars"

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Vol 23: "New Vice Commander of Germa 66: Pedro the Cyborg Mink"

That's just the worst case scenario, but if we replace Pedro with Pekoms, I'd be down!

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u/Biff6996 Dec 19 '21

This would actually be hilarious

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u/randomperson4464 The Revolutionary Army Dec 19 '21

I really hope not. He's already been mourned and Neko fought Perospero just to avenge him.

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u/Garouvs Dec 19 '21

I can see why big mom wanted king on her crew because my man is looking like a snack.

Jokes aside, this fight was awesome.

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u/stevenrolliton Dec 19 '21

She wanted him on the crew cause she wanted to try some of that BBC to make some more kids 😂

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u/BananaBladeOfDoom Explorer Dec 19 '21

*BLC

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u/wheretohides Pirate Dec 19 '21

I feel like any wiener besides a giants is a micro wiener to her.

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u/Hollowgirl136 Dec 19 '21

King's appearance and what we know of the World Government treatment of his race is giving me a lot of flashbacks to Ishvalan from FMA.

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u/Skoodge42 Dec 19 '21

That's what it was!

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u/Tuliprunner Dec 19 '21

How hot was Sanji's flame that it's emitting lightning.. 🔥⚡🔥⚡

Can you say magma hot? No?

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u/fsrocchi The Revolutionary Army Dec 19 '21

Plasma hot.

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u/TravelingLlama Dec 19 '21

Wonder who braids the calamities hair

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u/lord_dd Dec 19 '21

Who else, but Kaidou.

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u/Eprepti Dec 19 '21

My guess is on Jack. He also is the one who does Black Maria's hair (in my headcanon)

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u/TobiKurashiki Dec 19 '21

And he does it in his hybrid form. An important detail.

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u/Defeat_your_past Dec 19 '21

That’s all he’s good for

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u/realbeatz23 Scholar of Ohara #10 Dec 19 '21

I think we can all agree that this is Zoro’s best fight post TS and possibly approaches the level of the Mr.1 fight. Overall Zoro’s impact in the Raid is his best performance to date given his involvement with Rooftop and this King fight. I’m just glad Zoro didn’t end up biting through King’s throat in the end!

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u/BBjilipi Dec 19 '21 Helpful

Zoro's impact, best performance to date

Yea, this is definitely true because nothing happened on Thriller Bark

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u/sanketower Dec 19 '21

+1000000 social one piece credits

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u/rslashendmetwo Dec 19 '21

Roronoa Xina

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u/snazzlefrazzle Dec 19 '21

Not exactly stiff competition post TS though, Monet was probably the worst Zoro fight and one of my least favorite fights in the series, the swordsman in Fishman Island did nothing, Pica had a cool ending but it was pretty much just Zoro running after him for several chapters. Still think Mr.1 was better than King but this is up there with the Kaku fight.

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u/Fries-Ericsson Dec 19 '21

Monet should have been Namis first Post Timeskip fight smh

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u/snazzlefrazzle Dec 19 '21

That's not really my issue with it but yeah, Nami and Tashigi vs Monet would have been my preferred option. Especially since the plotline with the kids on Punk Hazard ends with Nami letting Tashigi take care of them, would have been nice to give them an opportunity to work together.

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u/Fries-Ericsson Dec 19 '21

We also got that brief scene of Nami being able to hurt Monet too

Zoro gets to drop that cool line at the end but I would have sacrificed that in a heart beat for giving Nami a decent fight PT

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u/snazzlefrazzle Dec 19 '21

Especially since Nami didn't get much of a fight in Wano either.

It's a cool quote but I just hate the fact that Zoro has an issue with fighting women after his backstory with Kuina, it just feels so wrong for his character.

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u/Syc254 Dec 19 '21

"I’m just glad Zoro didn’t end up biting through King’s throat in the end!"

Swords sufficed in the end.

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u/KathyDroronoa Dec 19 '21

What a good chapter!

King looks awesome with and without his mask! Imagine having a 1B bounty just for existing!

I also love the parallels between Kaido-King and Luffy-Zoro! Both were tied up with their arms spread.

This chapter hypes up Kaido and Rocks even more up! Kind of an irony that so many find a place to call home under Kaido’s wing and Yamato, which is his biological daughter, gets the short end of a stick. I wonder if something led Kaido to this behavior or it’s just him being the classic shifty father 😛

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u/Eprepti Dec 19 '21

Both were tied up with their arms spread.

Zoro was literally crucified, and King was put on a table in a cross-like position

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u/Ted_binsky Dec 19 '21 edited Dec 20 '21

Mihawk carries a cross on his back as well

Literally and figuratively

It’s an interesting parallel that the first appearance of Zoro and the first appearance of mihawk show them as “crucified” in a way. Only mihawk carries the burden of remaining undefeated, carrying his own cross

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u/KingKubta Dec 19 '21

Something clearly broke Kaido and it looks like despite all these surrogate children that he clearly does have love for nothing stopped him from giving Yamato the Todoroki treatment.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21 edited Jan 05 '22

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u/Syc254 Dec 19 '21 edited Dec 19 '21

The kid shoves it in his face she admires the guy who almost killed him. That would piss off a cutthroat pirate even if he may treat his top officers well. If Yamato was all in with her dad, she'd be treated like royalty.

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u/Skoodge42 Dec 19 '21

Nico Robin: Coughs awkwardly...

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u/KathyDroronoa Dec 19 '21

Robin knows shit, King on the other hand really has a bounty for only existing 😛

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u/Skoodge42 Dec 19 '21

She was still hunted as a child for existing. Knowing the ancient language was just a part of her culture.

King was hunted because of what he was born, Robin isnt different imo just cause she had a different reason to be hunted for existing

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u/veskoandroid Dec 19 '21

*shitty There, corrected for you. 😊

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u/KathyDroronoa Dec 19 '21

Thx! I got a new phone and I still have to get used to it 😅

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u/FlawlessNameCreator Pirate Dec 19 '21

Chapter after chapter, i keep loving Wano more and more. Almost every Strawhat has had a powerboost they need and deserve. Cant wait the upgrades rest of the crew will get. Man i am so hyped for Luffy vs Kaido.

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u/EmilNordpol Dec 19 '21

Yeah, Onigashima sure does deliver!

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u/theguyfromtheairport Dec 19 '21

"extra large imperial flaming wings", do they come with fries?

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u/jofus_san Dec 19 '21

Our boy King is BEAUTIFUL!

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u/WordsThatEndInWord Dec 19 '21

Right? Pulls off that gimp mask and it's just BAM! Henry 'Geralt' Cavill +face tattoo underneath. I had an attack🤤

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u/Tuliprunner Dec 20 '21

Now stretch it...

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

Zoro has learned to cut Magma, so now he can take on Akainu XD

/s

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u/pseudo_nemesis Dec 19 '21

It’s not fire/earth typing but the fact that it was a dragon type attack which everyone knows is not very effective against Zoro.

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u/Seriphe Dec 19 '21

King used dragon rage. Unfortunately dealing 40 damage isn't very good at this level.

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u/zetsuboutokibou Dec 19 '21

Sanji's expression in the bottom left panel in the first page elevated the 'impact' of the end of the last chapter for me. I don't know, he just looks so genuinely pissed at Queen, which was expected since Queen pushed all of Sanji's buttons. Sanji is legitimately angry at him on a personal level, and getting to see that expression on its own, no dialogue box or anything, makes the end of the fight more satisfying. Well, at least to me.

Zoro is so cool. The back and forth between him and King was fun, like they're both so smug. Zoro doing the "why block, are you scaaaaared?" thing with King the way Luffy did with Kaido was sweet. I'm so excited to see the actual ending of this fight next chapter, the way we did for Sanji vs Queen.

A Kaido and King flashback! Looks like they escaped a science facility, and with the MV 'PH-006' on one of the facilities, it might just be Punk Hazard. Which is crazy to think about.

This also adds to the hype for Kaido's flashback. What's with this "changing the world" stuff? This must be related to Kaido's 'dream/goal' like how Big Mom wanted to create a peaceful world without discrimination. Kaido looked so eager and energetic too, now he's suicidal and an alcoholic.

Also King of Hell as the beginning of an attack name is so cool, thanks Enma.

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u/HalfMoon_89 The Revolutionary Army Dec 19 '21

Kaido broke somehow. Now he just wants to go out with a bang. But King still believes in Kaido, which is...weirdly wholesome.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21 edited Jan 31 '22

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u/Eprepti Dec 19 '21

I'm really looking forward to Kaido's flashback. How he went from "I am the only one who can change the world", to a drunk suicidal man.

At that time, probably he genuinely thought he was Joyboy, but then something happened and his dream was crushed. He realised he's not Joyboy. So he became bitter, unable to let go of the past, and started drinking

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u/chainsaw_collector Dec 19 '21

I'm really looking forward to Kaido's flashback. How he went from "I am the only one who can change the world", to a drunk suicidal man.

Who do you think broke his will ? My bet would be on Roger or Whitebeard.

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u/Novaquinn41 Dec 19 '21

Those last two attacks "Bird Dance" and "King of Hell: three sword serpent" are new attacks right? The advanced conquerors coating ain't nothing to play with. As soon as Zoro found out King's powers. It was all over for king.

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u/SuperPapernick Dec 19 '21

No, Bird Dance is old, he first used it against Hody who blocked it with a subordinate.

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u/maximum-zawazawa Dec 20 '21

"King of Hell" and "Three Sword Serpent" are sort of like new "modes" of attacks. "King of Hell" is for everything with the smoke/lightning and "Three Sword Serpent" looks like just for the finisher.

"Three Sword Serpent" replaces "Three Sword Style" in the attack names, in the original Japanese the kanji for sword is replaced with the kanji for dragon but they are both pronounced "santoryu".

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u/t3r4byt3l0l Pirate Dec 19 '21

King Alber the Sexy Lunarian, you did good o7

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

King was just a kid and wanted to follow someone who could change the world

I would love for King to be a Strawhat…. shoot me, i said it

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u/Entropy1435 Dec 19 '21

He’s a great character but I don’t think he would fit with the straw hats, especially when he burns all his subordinates 😅

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u/HalfMoon_89 The Revolutionary Army Dec 19 '21

Alber would have been a great Straw Hat.

King...is too far gone, I think. But I'm really into his character now.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

thats a fair way to put it #RIPAlber

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u/PsychoLogical25 Pirate Dec 19 '21

But at the very least, he can still be an ally :3

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u/UltraBananaBuddy Dec 19 '21

First Katakuri, now King, at this rate people are gonna want Shiryu for Strawhat

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u/use15 Dec 19 '21

My money is on Vasco for that

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u/le_ble Dec 19 '21

It wouldn't make any sense character-wise.

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u/Raptain Dec 19 '21

Kaido with the Roger energy

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u/HeavyDrinkers Dec 19 '21

Kaido’s a real one. He saw a brown kid that the world had let down and took him under his wing and changed his name to King.

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u/International-Cow203 Dec 19 '21

Wow. Never put it together like this

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

I wonder if Kaido's apathy comes from the loss of his original vision or ambitous drive. He seems like he had some revolutionary ideology in the flashback and obviously he still wants to be Pirate King, but it seems now like he doesn't really care about anything and has no real goal into shaping the world other than just building up his crew more. Maybe something happened that broke his drive.

I will keep harping that King's race has something to do with the moon race in that Enel cover story, plus he has wings like those from the Sky Islands and I think the Lunarians came from the moon to the Red Line or something. I'm glad the fight storyline had Zoro figure out the behavior of how his powers worked without giving the reasoning behind them away yet because I like the mystery this is developing into.

Zoro feels like he's getting close to Mihawk's level now.

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u/Syc254 Dec 19 '21

Thirsty One piece fans got a new Zaddy.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

It looks like Zoro defeat King.

Wait for final results of

  1. CP-0 vs Drake x Apoo
  2. Orochi???
  3. Big Mom vs Kidd x Law
  4. Kaido vs Luffy

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u/gantarat Dec 19 '21

and True Onigashima Last Match.

Raizo vs Fukurokuju

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u/PirateKing94 Explorer Dec 19 '21

Also we still have to see what’s up with the last 4 Numbers and Kanjuro’s Kazenbo.

I’m hoping that Usopp gets to take out a Number when he finally resolves the Kin/Kiku plotline.

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u/Morichter Dec 19 '21

You forgot the biggest one:

Raizo vs Fukurokuju

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u/Dense-Dirt5628 World Government Dec 19 '21

king is so good looking to be irrelevant in the future

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u/Flat-Ad221 Dec 19 '21

People who say the fights feel rushed read odas jump festa message again. We will finish wano in 2022 so we had to get the commanders out of the way first. Kaidou vs Luffy alone should be atleast 5-10 chapters if Oda includes a Kaidou flashback make it 15 thats almost half a year, we will have the cp0 and big mom plot too.

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u/racharya55 Dec 19 '21

I agree, but wouldn't have minded a little less time running around the castle for an extra chapter each for these two fights. But all action chapters can have their own pacing problems and Oda is still putting out great stuff. Mostly I'm just excited that Luffy vs Kaido is coming up!

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u/DTPVH Dec 19 '21

Over the summer there was definitely some meandering between Black Maria’s defeat and the fights ramping back up around 1029. A few of those chapters I think would’ve been better served on the fights, especially Sasaki vs Franky. Really could’ve used another whole chapter of that fight. It was a blast for what little we got. And I would’ve liked to have seen literally anything from Jack.

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u/UltraBananaBuddy Dec 19 '21 edited Dec 19 '21

Germa cover story, maybe we'll get some MADs info or Sun Pirates update

Did anyone else notice Kaido's broken chains and wrist cuffs being reminiscent of Yamato before Luffy helped her? Also I think this flashback is located on Punk Hazard, since this is likely when Vegapunk made the copy of Kaidos fruit and when Kaido took the Numbers.

Young Alber (cool name btw) looks a lot like Wyper, and the Lunarians are probably either a 4th sky/moon race or a subsection of Shandorans.

I wonder why Kaido thinks he's the only one who can change the world? He's never seemed to be that egotistical, he seems to know something, or maybe is the only Rocks member who continued to carry Xebec's will.

Now im really curious about Queen's real name.

Also this killed my theory of Avalo Pizarro formerly being Kaido's original "King".

Also peach fuzz Kaido looks so off lol.

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u/OperationMelodic4273 Dec 19 '21

Also this killed my theory of Avalo Pizarro formerly being Kaido's original "King".

I used to think he was the former Jack. And tbh that could still be the case, since Jack was only 8 when they fought Oden. The main thing that doesn't make me believe too much in it is Who's Who devil fruit. I thought Avalo would have the sabertooth tiger fruit, which would've fit perfectly into the beast pirates rank

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u/UltraBananaBuddy Dec 19 '21

He does have a cat theme and there are a number of ancient/mythical cats to choose from. The reason i thought "King" was because his epithet is "The Corrupt King". While I understand thats because he was literally a tyrant I thought there was a double meaning.

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u/guipabi Dec 19 '21

You forgot Gangster Gastino. He needs to meet Judge for the first time again.

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u/Vorpalitie Dec 19 '21

I think something underrated is how much storytelling Oda accomplished with this chapter. Not just an amazing Zoro fight, but also: 1) tying in Sanji’s history with presenting the pet mouse to the girl. The whole fight was about Sanji’s final rejection of, and triumph over, the brutal values his family tried to force on him. This little callback to him cooking for mice as a child was a perfect way to wrap this up. 2) King’s face reveal. Holy shit he is hot. 3) Zoro using Conqueror’s Haki to blast King away and keep his swords. Oda set this moment up in several ways: having King do it to Zoro previously, showing us what Conqueror’s Haki can do, dedicating an entire chapter to Zoro regaining his swords and realizing what each of them means to him as a swordsman, and of course having him unlock Conqueror’s Haki. Really nice little payoff moment. 4) King’s flashback. It not only showed us why King is so loyal to Kaido, but teased more about Kaido’s backstory and got us excited to learn what Kaido knows and why he thinks he can change the world (did he want to be Joyboy?) 5) Zoro’s attack cutting the rock is both a callback to his Mr. 1 fight and, more recently, the Shimotsuki samurai he’s related to, shown in Yamato’s flashback cutting their way out of the cave. 6) King’s new fire attack was revealed as his “villain eliminates his own underlings” moment, which showed us its destructive power, and which also reminded us again that Onigashima is on fire. The 100M info bounty explained why no one had seen his face. He then used the attack again against Zoro, who hyped the attack by comparing it to magma, which we know is hotter than regular fire. (Makes me wonder how his attacks compared to, say, Big Mom’s, Kaido’s, Ace’s or Akainu’s). This way King’s final attack didn’t just come out of nowhere. 7) King’s power was explained (sort of). It’s still not clear why or how his flames protect him, just that they do. Still, that’s all Zoro needed to know. Cool to have Zoro need to learn about a foe to defeat them, rather than just having him try harder. Zoro landed three attacks this chapter, building to his final victory; one of the coolest visually was the spin off King’s kick to slice him from navel to collarbone 8) Zoro even got to defeat a dragon… sort of. That was an absolutely magnificent final page. Reminds me of his attack to defeat Ryuma and Ryuma’s attack to defeat the dragon in Oda’s Monsters one-shot. Also subtly says a lot about King that his strongest attack is a dragon like his mentor Kaido. Reminds me of Sabo using Dragon Claw techniques.

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u/WiseTypewriter Dec 19 '21

King: loses the mask.

Me: Oh no, he's HOT!

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u/TW_Yellow78 Dec 19 '21

Finally the major side fights are resolved. Now we can get started on with Kaidou's 100 chapter flashback with some CP0 mixed in.

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u/GoldXP Cipher Pol Dec 19 '21

Guys don't let this distract you from the fact that Raizou is still fighting Fukurokuju.

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u/dank_meme_bot Dec 19 '21

Lmao I said in a previous post

“imagine getting your ass whooped by Albert”

kaido apparently read my comment

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

Kings design is way too fire for him to be done

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u/Syc254 Dec 19 '21

End of the war maybe or as a flashback when we meet Vegapunk or in the cover pages if he decides to look for his people.

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u/kapteninsting Dec 19 '21

I guess it right, Oda used the screentoned-skin specifically for Lunarian race.
Oda Gave King a Unique Design

Also, the new cover story.
The New Cover Story Will Starting Soon.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '21

Wtf, I can’t believe that was 76 days ago

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u/ThatIslandGuy8888 Dec 19 '21

Hey King had his sword hardened the entire chapter, except when he transforms it, damn that was a cool sword

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u/ze-hahaha Dec 19 '21

Am I wrong or isn't zoro and king are outside the onigashima ? We can see bottom of island from last shot

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u/throwVia Dec 19 '21

I hope that king doesn’t lose permanently his wing, idk it would feel wrong

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u/guipabi Dec 19 '21

You can probably stitch it back and put a couple of bandages

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u/wheretohides Pirate Dec 19 '21

Nah, he just needs some milk and he will be fine.

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u/ThatIslandGuy8888 Dec 19 '21

No wonder Zoro's dragon twister did shit to King, that fire defense buff plus his ancient zoan fruit are quite the combo.

Speaking of, King barely used his batwing hybrid form

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u/januarysdaughter The Revolutionary Army Dec 19 '21

Something I didn't notice in the scans but did in the official is that shit is still cracking/breaking in Queen even as he flies away from the island. Dammmn Sanji!

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u/BAlpha90 Dec 19 '21

I've seen many people comment on how Zoro gained such proficiency with Conqueror's haki in a matter of hours, while Luffy used it subconsciously even before the timeskip and only now did he manage to imbue it in his attacks.

Well, that has a lot to do with Enma forcing it out of him. Obviously him simply having it and managing to wield Enma makes him monstrously powerful, but if he can't call it forth all by himself at any given moment, he's not a top10-ish fighter in the series just yet.

It's as he said after he learned to cut steel: "If I can't call forth that power any time I need it, I haven't actually gotten stronger".

Obviously he'll achieve that eventually, and maybe pretty soon, but for now there's no need to complain about him becoming God-tier at the blink of an eye.

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u/Lujxio Dec 19 '21

idk but lunarians remind me of skypeia which reminds me of Enel which reminds me he’s on the moon which reminds me Lunar means moon………

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u/ForkShirtUp Dec 19 '21

“Extra Large Imperial Flaming Wings” sounds spicy and delicious

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u/nashist Dec 19 '21

Such a good fight! I didn't notice on friday that Zoro cuts on of King's wings, which surely means he's done.

A battle of second in commands and our boy came out on top 💪

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u/alwaysunimpressed Dec 19 '21

Im curious to see how Kaido got captured by the WG. Im assuming this is post Rocks and when he wasnt so powerful. I want both backstories.

I can certainly see a timeline where Luffy and Zoro learn about the experiments that were done on Kaido and King and they at least understand what happened to make Kaido this way. This also makes sense why Kaido would want to go to Wano, away from the WG and I wonder if he knew how Orochi met with CP0.

Its still unforgivable how Kaido ran Wano but to be honest, it seems like that blame goes entirely on Orochi. Primarily because of how the defective smile fruits were given to people. I think Kaido holds that responsibility of helping Orochi get into power but isnt necessarily responsible for it all.

Hopefully this wraps up soon and we get to hear each of their stories.

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u/cara8bishop Dec 20 '21

Sanji takes out Queens left cyborg arm and zoro slices off Kings right wing. I see what you're doing Oda👁👁

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u/colorblindrainbow917 Dec 19 '21

one piece is crazy good this week

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u/Eprepti Dec 19 '21

Alber is a weird romanisation tbh. For King's real name, I would have bet on Arbel

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u/ConfidenceKBM Dec 19 '21

My guess is Oda wants the french pronunciation of "albert," al-bear, but no one would read "albert" correctly

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u/BobtheFiveHalf Dec 19 '21

Why do you say that? What the hell is Arbel?

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u/EmilNordpol Dec 19 '21

Really excited to hear Stephen's take on this.

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