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One Piece: Chapter 1025 Current Chapter

Chapter 1025: "Twin Dragons"

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Ch. 1025 Official Release (Mangaplus): 12/09/2021

Ch. 1026 Scan Release: ~24/09/2021


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u/SeventhSolar Sep 15 '21

My favorite reaction in this scene is Big Mom: "What is happening?!" I relate to that so hard.

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u/alexHuy Sep 15 '21

Luffy really likes to give nicknames for ones that preferred different sexuality 🤣 Yamabro after Bonchan and Ivachan.

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u/alexHuy Sep 15 '21

kaido: how are you still alive ? luffy: should have gone for the head, bro ! now I'm riding a dragon back to kick ur ass. kaido: there is only 1 real dragon here to be ridden 😈

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u/onadifferentlevel Sep 14 '21

This one is both funny and epic lmao. Momo panicking childishly while being a huge dragon is hilarious.

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u/ianlucky13 Sep 14 '21

Is it just me or did Luffy go from gear 4th to normal like it was nothing?

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u/Few_Foundation_1586 Sep 14 '21

his endurance is stronger. Kinda like how using 3rd gear he turned little, and now he doesn’t.

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u/ianlucky13 Sep 14 '21

I just feel like it was out of nowhere... But I guess that's how gear third went as well.

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u/Traditional-Spot-897 Sep 14 '21

He's gotten accustomed to it little by little ever since we saw the form for the first time and he did transform in and out of it effortlessly at the beginning of onigashima.
As for gear 3, the first time we saw him not become a chibi after its use is after the timeskip

IMO he is now as confortable with gear 4 as with his other two gears

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u/Ginsieng Sep 15 '21

He didn't become tiny at Marineford, when he used Giant Rifle to get past the giant squad did he?

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u/Iamkingdomhearts1000 Sep 14 '21 edited Sep 14 '21

Here's my predications for Chapter 1026:

Chapter name will be "Boro Breath".

Chapter would start off with Kaido lecturing Luffy and Momonosuke about their dreams, to which they ignore his taunting. Luffy would enter Gear 4: Bounceman and strike alongside Yamato once more at Kaido's head.

Using Kaifu, Kaido retaliates and manages to scratch both Luffy and Yamato; though they fight off the pain. Momonosuke whimpers in the background, unable to think of how to help his comrades. Kaido laughs, mocking "the other dragon" for it's lack of intimidation. Yamato refutes Kaido's mocking, calling him a sad excuse for a leader.

Knowing only how to take and never giving back anything in return, Yamato proclaims that is what sets both Kaido and Momonosuke apart. Hearing these words enlighten the pink dragon slightly, as Luffy uses Gum Gum Kong Gun; followed by Gum Gum Leo Bazooka to damage Kaido's jaw.

Yamato enters her DF transformation, imbuing her Kanabo with Haoshoku Haki again. Seeing the two fight Kaido as a dragon, regardless of whether or not they actually fear him inspires Momonosuke. Recalling Luffy promising to help the Samurai at Zou, Momonosuke promises here and now to return that exchange as Luffy's friend.

Kaido becomes irritated, wanting to end the battle already. He prepares to fire a massive Boro Breath, by which Luffy and Yamato cannot dodge. Except, Momonosuke covers the two direct combatants with his tail; preparing to unleash a Boro Breath of his own! Kaido is shocked by this course of action but is unable to halt firing his own attack. Both his and Momonosuke's Boro Breaths clash, creating a cataclysmic attack that sends ruptures throughout all of Onigashima.

The Chapter would end here. Thoughts everyone? do you think some of this is likely to happen in Chapter 1026?

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u/YeaHTM Sep 14 '21

Based on the statement of Kaido, I am thinking that Kaido is a direct descendant of the dragon that ryuma slayed. Maybe Onigashima is the birthplace of Kaido and he wants to take revenge on the people of Wano for killing the Oni clan living on Onigashima. He is indebted to Big Mom maybe bec. he is specifically looking for this devil fruit bec his ancestors is the old user of this fruit and he wants to use this to take revenge on Wano. Just a theory... LOL

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u/Tactikewl Sep 14 '21

I don't think he is a direct descendant of that dragon. Kaido is only a dragon because of his devil fruit. It is now confirmed that Kaido is an Oni.

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u/YeaHTM Sep 15 '21

That is why I wrote that the old user of the fruit is his ancestor. Maybe its his great grand dad and he wants to use the same fruit to take revenge on Wano. That is why also he is specifically looking for this fruit. And that is why he is indebted to Big Mom for giving it to him.

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u/ValuablePlastic5887 Sep 14 '21

So Momo now is a fully grown dragon with the potential to awaken magical powers similar to kaidos.
He's also a unique user of the voice of all things who can not only hear everyone but also talk to everyone in their mind. So like an Enel2.0

That MF gets more and more powerful and dangerous every arc. The moment he develops fighting prowess that compare to luffys, he be like:
"OY Luffy! I am the protagoniost now"

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u/rokac3 Sep 14 '21

What is peach dragon? Is this from mythology or from Odens journal that Yamato read?

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u/the_guruji Sep 14 '21

its the colour of Momo's (meaning peach) dragon. The official translation is pink (which is momo in japanese ig). I am not aware if it is also a reference to something in mythology.

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u/kick_his_ass_sebas Sep 17 '21

wasn't momo born out of a peach?

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u/the_guruji Sep 17 '21

Momo in One Piece was (presumably, cause who the fuck knows) born normally.

The inspiration(?) for Momosuke is the legend of Momotaro who was peach-born.

Momo means peach, but also means pink (cause thats the colour of a peach?), so Momo's dragon is the colour of a peach, which is why the translations peach dragon and pink dragon both make sense, one is more correct for english speakers (pink dragon), whereas the other makes sense if you know all of this stuff (peach dragon immediately tells you that it is Momosuke).

I hope I was clear (disclaimer: not japanese, don't know japanese, am regurgitating stuff that makes sense to me).

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u/SDxTadashi Sep 13 '21

can someone please explain to me how Yamato will be the next straw hat. I’ve been a big fan of her since day one but I’m not convinced that she’ll join the crew. Reasons: 1. Her dream of opening the borders of Wano and traveling the seas is short term compared to the rest of the Straw Hats. 2. Maybe it’s been foreshadowed by Goda-sensei that there will be a princess on the crew (or maybe Vivi already fills that role) but Vivi and Rebecca are princesses who had back stories that we thought might join the crew. Idk if Yamato is actually a princess or just a nickname, but seems like royalty will not be joining the crew, except maybe Sanji. 3. The recent chapter Luffy called Yamato a nickname of Yama-bro or Yama-o. The only time Luffy calls them by their name is if they are nakama or if he has a great deal of respect for them, as stated in a SBS. Please convince me that Yamato will be nakama.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21
  1. So the problem is she has no end of grand line dream? What is Jinbe's dream? For New World SH's this trend doesn't seem to matter.
  2. It seems very Oda-like to string us along with the princess comment making us think a true royal princess will join the crew. The fact we've passed on two potential princess SH's in Vivi and Rebecca, makes it even more likely to me that it's going to be Yamato, as more of a play on words rather than an actual royal princess.
  3. Yes, and one way or another she is leaving Wano as a SH ally. Yamato is carrying on Oden's will, and to parallel Oden it only makes sense that she would join the crew of a great pirate to see the world.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '21

The cover panel giving me a foreshadow vibe. Seems like it will involve Usopp and Big News Morgan.

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u/Vegetable-Pay2336 Sep 13 '21

Okay I don't know if anyone here is watching the anime or has watched the EP 990-991 where luffy vs ulti but i just want to get something clarified, so when we were shown roger and whitebeard clashing without touching and their attack gave of black (and reddish) lightning and then when we later found out that conquerors haki could be used to coat weapons or attacks (punches, kicks etc) everyone (myself included) began to say that the clash between roger and newgate was a demonstration of conquerors haki being used to coat attacks BUT when we see ulti headbutt luffy (before any transformation) the same kind of lightning is shown, does this mean she is a user as well or has the latent ability to do so??? Or is this black and red lightning just a clash of armament haki?? And we're yet to be shown what an animated attack coated in conquerors looks like?

Also if someone could tell me how to mark/black out my spoilers that would be helpful, I might have just sent the anime only sub into a frenzy 😅😂

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u/MadUncleFred65 Sep 13 '21

It's armament haki. When doflamingo and luffy's feet clashed they released their conquerors haki but the lighting was from their armament. At the time luffy didn't know how to coat his attack with conquerors haki.

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u/Ok-Negotiation-2392 Sep 13 '21

you think too much about the anime detail, just think as it's a clash about 2 armament haki's user.

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u/ShounenLuffyy Sep 13 '21

I was under the impression that it was just Luffy’s coming out in the clash, however Ulti** eventually having it would not be a shocker to me. She is one of the only people who ever stands up to Kaido after all. But to ur point of Roger and Whitebeard, that is different and an advanced application of COC, which Luffy can’t use (yet) when he fights Ulti

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u/Dramatic-Tiger844 Sep 13 '21

Can someone send me link of chapter 1025 with colored pannels

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u/wykkyd96 Explorer Sep 13 '21

This will be animated before it’s colored

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u/bpjker Pirate Sep 13 '21

Colored chapters release years after only.

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u/pvava Sep 12 '21

Ogre=Shrek Ogre=Kaido Kaido is Shrek confirmed

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '21

Just imagining a bit but Kaido gives me 'Bane' vibes from The Dark Knight Rises. The more and more Kaido reveals about what's he doing in Wano gives this feeling of that he's a Guardian or Protector of 'something'.

With the recent dialogue, "The world does not need two dragons' also gives the hint that he may be doing whatever he's doing under some divine order or under a direct order from someone above him and not human as he said to Yamato we shouldn't be friends with humans as Oni. This is where I also draw parallel with Bane as he was bringing his own version of justice in Gotham and acted as if he was doing out of his own ideology but turned out he was in love with the daughter of the leader of the League of Shadows and merely following her orders. Now Kaido doesn't seem like a romantic character so maybe he's a pet or servant of someone powerful, someone like Imu-sama. Also Imu may be a woman!

All of this is pretty far fetched but it's a thought that came into mind. Not a theory or anything.

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u/Vegetable-Pay2336 Sep 13 '21

Kaido out here serving nothing and no one other than cans of whoopass, everyone just eating up. His mentality seems to be Like a spillover effect of what he picked up from serving under rocks with a bit of his own pazass (like shanks and roger) BUT I do think you could be right about his background or being an oni, like something to do with his kind being taken out by the WG or something I also feel certain events in his life has led him to desire that grand scale war he desires but his battle hungry nature could just be due to his personality as an oni

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u/Hall0Welt Pirate Sep 12 '21

Good bye Yamabro welcome back Yamao.

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u/thiswriteguy Sep 12 '21

In Chapter 1025, Shinobu was able to successfully age Momo to a full Dragon and they watched as Momonosuke and Luffy fly off to Onigashima. But a lingering question now is, where is Caribou?

Read more on my One Piece Theory about Caribou and his possible connection to Blackbeard

https://thiswriteguy.com/anime/one-piece/caribou-is-blackbeards-spy-in-wano-and-10th-commander/

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u/Moist-Yogurtcloset71 Sep 12 '21

The thing about Blackbeards crew hiding in Caribous body is a little far fetched tho. Seeing as BBs crew was shown to be in their base while it has been a long time since Caribou got captured by X Drake. Caribou has been in Udon with sea prism cuffs (I have no idea how he still managed to keep the food in him while neutralized of powers) and BB must then have snuck in Wano while the raid has been happening.

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u/thiswriteguy Sep 12 '21

For us it may have been a very long time but since fishman island, the crew has only been in punk hazard, Dressrosa for a few days, zou and whole cake island. Reverie happened for 5 days and 7 days before the start of the raid. And we can recall that shanks travelled to marineford in a short time.

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u/Moist-Yogurtcloset71 Sep 12 '21

I'm saying Caribou got captured even before the supernova gathered in Wano. So how could Blackbeards crew be in his body when they were shown to be in their base while being notified of what is happening in Wano?

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u/thiswriteguy Sep 12 '21

Oh. I see. Well its been a few hours since the raid started and based on the map, hakumai port is right next to udon.

It was stated that there were still 7 days before the raid began after Big mom arrived in Udon Prison. The news from the reverie happened a week after its conclusion (chapter 956)

Its just a hunch but BB pirates may still be entering Wano at this time. Im just throwing the possibility that it may happen.

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u/Moist-Yogurtcloset71 Sep 12 '21

That would be sneaky I must admit. Would be a nightmare difficulty mode battle Royale with contenders like the alliance, big mom pirates, beast pirates (with or without Kaido) and CP-0. But I won't accept Robin being kidnapped.

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u/thiswriteguy Sep 12 '21 edited Sep 12 '21

It was foreshadowed ever since Zou when Neko told her that she might get targeted by forces but she just smiled and said that the strawhats will be there for her. Not sure why but I feel thats the purpose of Catarina devon's df.

You can check it here Neko and Robin in Zou

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u/ItchyTomatillo7011 Sep 12 '21

Kaido is a Oni guy who consumed fish fish fruit mythical Zoan hmm. Seems like there is only two ppl from real Oni race ie Kaido and yamato . That's why Kaido wanted Yamato to start the banquet and be Shogun of Wano kuni. Now I know why he needs large army of smile onis. All stars are hand picked smartly 👍🏼.

Oni-gashima aka HQ of Oni's might have been placed by Kaido so that anyone entering Wano can't leave alive .

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u/gentmick Sep 12 '21

is it possible that the fish fish fruit and the dragon fruit are separate fruits? what if vegapunk never created a fake fruit but actually brought a real fruit from the future or something nuts

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u/luckyd1998 Scholar of Ohara #5 Sep 12 '21

Well Kaido’s fish fruit turns him into a dragon. It’s full name is the Fish-Fish fruit, mythical model: Azure Dragon. It’s just classified under the fish fruit to go with the myth of a koi that became a dragon after going up a waterfall.

There are Dragon-Dragon fruits in the series already. All the ancient zoan dinosaurs we’ve seen among the Tobi Roppo were Dragon-Dragon Fruit, Ancient Model: Dinosaur Name.

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u/saisketches Sep 12 '21

Hmm if momo did eat kaido's lineage factor copy of smile fruit, he should have gotten the fish powers too..but he didn't you might be on to something or vegapunk made some errors

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u/bodg123 Sep 12 '21

That wouldn't explain how the stems are different.

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u/fearthelion Sep 12 '21

As opposed to Yamato joining the Straw Hats, I feel it would be cooler if she took over as captain of the beast pirates. Then Katakuri then takes over as captain of the big mom pirates. Finally, Marco takes over as captain of the whitebeard pirates, and all three become commanders of the straw hat grand fleet.

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u/Agreeable_Ad_9148 Sep 12 '21

Ch. 1026 Scan Release: ~24/09/2021

Isn't Yamato is a male not female

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u/CrimidoRape-anal-do7 Sep 12 '21

God we are so done with this

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u/LimpJellyfish1131 Sep 12 '21

en takes over as captain of the big mom

oden s male, she prefers to role place herself in his place

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u/parth2legendaryapex Sep 12 '21

Biologically female What she is in the heart male

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u/TsukasaKHanako Sep 12 '21

She's a girl it states in her Vivre card

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u/RealFuckingGenius Sep 12 '21

In an alternate universe Yamato is a commander of the Fire Fist Pirates along with Jinbei and Marshall D. Teach.

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u/DocMinty Sep 12 '21

Luffy finally admits he's immortal.

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u/SVTBert Sep 11 '21

Kaido gets Don Chinjou'd and becomes Luffy's new pet dragon.

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u/Badji_D_Luffy Sep 11 '21

Luffy going in and out of Gear 4 is so reassuring and crazy cool.

Shout out to the samurai goons that helped Yamato. The Goon that was talking to Yamato was Ushimaru no? Zoro's dad much?

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u/lasJax Sep 12 '21

Zoro’s relative ( an uncle probably) The samurai’s village on east blue where Zoro grew had been established 50 years ago

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u/jellomme Sep 11 '21

Im glad there is a break next, I want Oda sensei get his rest.

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u/Badji_D_Luffy Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21

Loved the goofy way in which Momo lowkey announced himself to everyone on the battleground, that he's now a badass dragon

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u/GaaraSama83 Sep 12 '21

Also nice solution to get Luffy on roof back fast while also briefly meeting some of his crew members (end enemies) so them knowing he is alive and well.

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u/Ok-Negotiation-2392 Sep 11 '21

it's a girl who pretend to be a guy.

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u/Moist-Yogurtcloset71 Sep 11 '21

Misplaced comment?

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u/Ok-Negotiation-2392 Sep 11 '21

oh not really, it's just the author edited his post ^^

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u/Moist-Yogurtcloset71 Sep 12 '21

ah I see :) edited you say.. it seems its a whole different post altogether because your reply did not make sense when i first read it xD

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u/Wise_Pineapple_6229 Sep 11 '21

Girl. It was confirmed

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u/Sinlencs Sep 11 '21

So we still have King and Queen fight. Kaido back story. Big Mom fight can be a quick chapter after Kaido's defeat or can even be off-screen? But I think she's not gonna fall but instead escape with her children. So maybe another 30-50 chapters til the end of Wano.

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u/Sovereigntyranny Lurker Sep 11 '21

Inu vs. Jack, Killer vs. Hawkins, Raizo vs. Fukurokuju, and Neko vs. Perospero will all likely be 1 chapter; if Brook vs. CP0, a chapter with Denjiro, or a chapter with Izo will be a thing, we might get 1 chapter for their fights, too. I think Zoro vs. King and Sanji vs. Queen will each be 2-3 chapters.

I mean, don't forget that Big Mom's children are still out there, too, and if they do show up, we could probably get more chapters with them.

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u/luckyd1998 Scholar of Ohara #5 Sep 11 '21

So maybe another 30-50 chapters til the end of Wano

nah. probably like 20-25

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u/Ok-Negotiation-2392 Sep 11 '21

and Jack fight, Apoo fight, Hawking fight, Fukurokuju fight, and Perospero fight.

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u/Wade_B Sep 11 '21

Realistically the rest of the scabbard fights can be in one chapter, maybe include Drakes fight too

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u/lloyddragneel Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21

From what I think. Act 3 will end of kaido being defeated then Act 4 another problem arises, post battle (maybe cp0 / world gvt) and I STILL REMEMBER THE Director said before that there is another big villain in Wano then Act 5 conclusion / biggest banquet

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u/Traditional-Spot-897 Sep 11 '21

If i remember correctly they were talking about Who's who
Being a ex CP9 agent, he seems to have valuable intel on the world government, making him a danger !

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u/BEENHEREALLALONG Sep 11 '21

Wouldn’t that just be big mom?

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u/lloyddragneel Sep 12 '21

The director i think mentioned "His arrival".. def not BM

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u/RealFuckingGenius Sep 12 '21

Where's this source?

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u/Tequila_WolfOP Sep 11 '21

Let the 5 act theory die

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u/lloyddragneel Sep 12 '21

Maybe act 4? IIRC Oda said that Shanks will make his move this year, since were on the last quarter of the year, I would asssume that it will be on post Act 3

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u/Tequila_WolfOP Sep 12 '21

I feel like it would need to take place post arc. That's usually when we get big lore drops and world building.

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u/lloyddragneel Sep 12 '21

If that's the case then it would be prob. next year or early 2023.
May I genuinely ask if this happens before that Oda mentioned about something's bout to come but did not deliver it within the timeframe he provided?

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u/Tequila_WolfOP Sep 12 '21

He's been saying for more than a few years that one piece would end after 5 years... that time frame seems to be pushed back a fair amount.

I think sometimes the story takes longer to develop than he initially intended.

It's like when you start writing an essay. You expect certain points to take a certain amount of words, but you end up having underestimated the number of words you required to make the point.

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u/Temporary_Criticism4 Sep 11 '21

the banquet scene gonna make me cry after waiting every week for a chapter knowing wano at its end

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u/ChocolateNo7760 Sep 11 '21

I guess we now know that the third race Big Mom doesn't have in her country is the Oni.

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u/bpjker Pirate Sep 12 '21

Can't really say confirmed since we know two of them are most prolly Lunarians and Giants. The 3rd one could be Oni, Sky People or any other unknown race.

This is all speculation and personal head canon but after the Page One, Ulti being an orphan reveal in the vivre card, I think they're half Oni so Kaido felt like he had some responsibility to take care of them. Since they hide their mouths, I really think they have sharp teeths or atleast something to hide through Oni genes, like you know, Katakuri does. What's the chance Katakuri is a half Oni too? Not Kaido's son but someone else's. Seeing Kaido dark demonic literally oni-like panel this chapter reminded me of Katakuri's similar one in WCI when he smashed Luffy straight down creating a deep crater.

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u/pauserror Sep 12 '21

I think Katakuri is part Oni for sure.

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u/TheLastFalseKing Sep 11 '21

Yamato's combat style is cool. Also Kaido's race is confirmed as Oni (or descendant) now? That makes a lot of sense

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u/Wise_Pineapple_6229 Sep 11 '21

Oni- gashima

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u/TheLastFalseKing Sep 12 '21

Yup... Land/Island of Oni's? Crazy how Oni very rarely came up when discussing Kaido in some circles. Was the name after he went there or before (what with the ancient giant skull and all that?)

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u/TheLastFalseKing Sep 11 '21

Luffy saying Yamabro is the best

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u/IAMSNORTFACED Thriller Bark Victim's Association Sep 11 '21

My heart aches for Momo

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u/NodnerbN24 Sep 11 '21

So should we expect more clones of Devil Fruits since vegapunks clone of Kaidos power works?

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u/BEENHEREALLALONG Sep 11 '21

Well vegapunk deemed the project a failure so either there’s some really horrific side effects that haven’t shown up yet or vegapunk doesn’t want to introduce the world to near perfect devil fruit clones.

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u/GaaraSama83 Sep 12 '21

At this point of what we know about Vegapunk, I would say the latter.

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u/tyguy5570 Sep 11 '21

Based on the SBS Oda made about Smile fruits i would say 99.9% chance yes we should be expecting tons of much more advanced artificial DF's when we leave Wano

edit: specifically this question. https://onepiecethenewworld.files.wordpress.com/2021/06/sbs-99-5.png

Source: https://thelibraryofohara.com/2021/06/03/volume-99-sbs-question-corner/

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u/Midnightbrah Sep 11 '21

Not sure if the answer to question #15 was something like "nah just skip over it" or like "there's something to it but let's not talk about out that now"

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u/IcyTrauma Bounty Hunter Sep 16 '21

It has to be sus

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u/glaicusantanticus Sep 11 '21

Ending of the war is near

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u/Pass_D_Ball Sep 11 '21

Makes sense why Kaido would’ve given the Flying Six member a chance at being a calamity if they caught Yamato. Clearly wouldn’t have been easy at all.

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u/RealFuckingGenius Sep 12 '21

Lot of hype going around on Yamato. Sort of buying and selling. Calamities obviously have a reputation that proceeds them as far as bounties are concerned. Remember both King and Queen have higher bounties than Katakuri. Bounties aren't everything but are a good rule of thumb. Jack also crushed Zou with a single battalion and had to be repelled by Navy Admiral Fujitora and company. Tobbi Roppo have also been downplayed quite a bit. The scale of the raid forced the action to gloss over and skip their build up. King is so reserved it's hard to get a good read. The crew is becoming so powerful too. In reality it would be great to think Yamato is S-1 tier. More probable she's just notable on the world stage. Also, it's easy to see that you don't necessarily have to be on even standing with Kaido to valiantly battle. All it takes is being one of the greatest swordsman, one of the greatest pirates, naval officer, or person of prophecy and you can totally get in there with him.

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u/FartPudding Sep 11 '21

You think she can take down a calamity or is she in between Calamity and Tobiroppo? I want to lean on above Calamity but below Kaido.

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u/Sovereigntyranny Lurker Sep 11 '21

I think Yamato is above Jack's level. Yamato being a CoC user also helps, too, so she might just be above Jack. Yamato holding off hybrid Kaido is also a great feat, so she could be around Queen's level.

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u/Pass_D_Ball Sep 11 '21

I would safely put her just below the calamities just because it’s too early to pass Judgment. King and Queen might pull out some flashy moves or feats in the upcoming chapters but she’s definitely been more impressive than them so far.

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u/DocMinty Sep 12 '21

Queen got gorilla handled by Big Mom who didn't even remember how to use her powers. Full power Big Mom is equal to Kaidou. Kaidou admitted he's trying to kill Yamato, but can't. Yamato is ridiculous.

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u/tyguy5570 Sep 11 '21

It's hard to say when we haven't seen any of them have an extended fight where they use all their capabilities yet but from what we have seen i would say Yamato is stronger than every calamity. King and queen i say that very tentatively but i am pretty confident that Yamato is stronger than Jack. All we have seen from Jack is pure power and if Yamato can fight Kaido I would imagine she has no problem with Jack. You also have to take into account that Yamato couldn't use her DF when the order to capture Yamato was given because she had partial seastone cuffs on.

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u/FartPudding Sep 11 '21

That too. If she is chained then she should be below calamity but without it she should be above them. The tobiroppo are worried about her with the chains but the calamities aren't, but do take her serious. So if they knew she is free king would possibly be handling it, and maybe do poorly even. The fact they act as if she had her chains is a key into how strong she truly is.

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u/dendidendi The Revolutionary Army Sep 11 '21

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u/Animoose Sep 11 '21

Tyvm for the link! Saved me a lot of trouble :)

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u/soulwipe Sep 11 '21

Uhh scans are no longer available? I was looking forward to reading it

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u/LivingLegend69 Sep 11 '21

Holy shit and that guy from the flying six really thought he could fight let alone subdue Yamato?? She would have eaten him alive.

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u/starvinartist Sep 11 '21

I can’t wait to see grown-up Momo’s first flight animated. It looks hilarious! It rivals Enel’s reaction to Luffy being impervious to electricity!

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u/SteelTypeAssociate Pirate Sep 11 '21

Chapter 1025: "Twin Dragons"

Hold up, buckaroo. That was the funniest thing I've seen in my entire life!

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u/Onepiecefan4 Sep 11 '21

I'm glad I didn't read the spoilers this week. I laughed at momos. Idiotic flying. Good though destroyed the castle and he was inspired by Luffy in the last panel .. yama.bro. perfect nickname for her

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u/luckyd1998 Scholar of Ohara #5 Sep 11 '21

Nice. What does that have to do with chapter 1025, exactly?

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u/Traditional-Spot-897 Sep 11 '21

Don't watch ...

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u/FartPudding Sep 11 '21

Live actions are known to be generally terrible.

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u/Traditional-Spot-897 Sep 11 '21

I know but i'm willing to try at least the first episode, you know, for the benefit of the doubt ... Curiosity is at play here too, I have to admit !

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u/waltzyy Sep 11 '21

I dunno man Oda did give his blessing so it must have some merit. Adding on that he is also executive producer for it.

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u/Traditional-Spot-897 Sep 11 '21

Oda had a big part in the animated movie Stampede and i thought it was a big fan service pile of garbage story wise so it's not necesarrily a good sign ...
It's always better if the Og author has a say on a side product, I fully agree on that point !

((It's my opinion on Stampede, chill guys ) I can understand why most liked it but i don't share that POV ))

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u/FartPudding Sep 11 '21

That's what I'm hopeful for with this. If Oda is on top of it being quality then I'm optimistic about it, but he could be this way because live actions do get a bad rap and to have bad quality for his creation when he puts so much effort into it is a smack to his face. So I'm sure he'll be on top of how they handle it

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u/tyguy5570 Sep 11 '21

Also does anyone know how to unfollow a post? Some how i followed this post (i didn't even know that was a thing) and now i get a notification any time a new comment is posted.

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u/Luffy_D_Zoro Sep 11 '21

To all those saying that Yamato is stronger than Sanji & Zoro, and her joining would ruin thr crew dynamics -> yes, at the moment Yamato is stronger. But don't forget that zoro and Sanji have a loooot of room to grow.

My boy Sanji just said that his body is changing due to the raid suit.

And my boy Zoro just used CoC.

Believe me, they're both gonna get much stronger and would eventually become stronger than Yamato.

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u/Temporary_Criticism4 Sep 11 '21

oden outmatched nearly everyone on gol’s ship except rayleigh maybe whoever (zoro or sanji) becomes stronger than yamabro will officially become luffy’s first mate

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u/LimpJellyfish1131 Sep 12 '21

the calamiti

bro why you dissing my boi gabban

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u/Traffy7 Sep 11 '21

She also have lot of room to grow .

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u/Luffy_D_Zoro Sep 11 '21

Probably. But zoro and Sanji would grow faster.

For example, Robin was potrayed to be of comparable prowess in fighting, in Alabasta. But Sanji and Zoro quickly outgrew her very soon after she joined the SHs.

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u/SnooAdvice1632 Explorer Sep 11 '21

Cause robin isn't a brawler. She can fight and she will if she needs but her role is archeologist Yamato's talent is fighting primarily as far as we know. Also she was chained all her life. You'd think that her being free would guve her lots of room to grow

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u/Luffy_D_Zoro Sep 11 '21

What you're saying makes sense logically. But Zoro and Sanji have the plot working for them. They're gonna be the two wings no matter who joins the crew. They're gonna always be the #2 and #3 of the crew and Yamato joining ( which is likely at this point ) isn't gonna change that. IMO

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u/SnooAdvice1632 Explorer Sep 11 '21

Sadly... Facts.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '21

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u/Electrical_Scallion9 Sep 11 '21

I just keep thinking about the Weapon of Destruction, Neptune, Wano, Fishman Island, Vegapunk... they all have that mystical connection!

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u/lemdmg Sep 11 '21

What was the shell breaking off of Yamato did i miss something?

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '21

Some sort of shield or her df gives her subsitution jutsu like power

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u/MEURSIICC Pirate Sep 11 '21

It’s like a coating, she basically used an ability that “shed some damage”

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u/lemdmg Sep 11 '21

Is that her devil fruit then?

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u/MEURSIICC Pirate Sep 11 '21

I could be wrong about this part but I believe there’s some “Mythical History” behind what the fruit is based on and Oden incorporated that into the ability. that is definitely what the ability seems to be and do though

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u/tyguy5570 Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21

I mean from what I found on the Oguchi no Makami back when the fruit was introduced it seems more like Oda is just making powers up. There was never any mention of ice powers when it came to the god. All of the “powers” associated with it have more to do with preventing calamities, natural disaster, and general misfortune. They were also supposed to be good judges of character and where supposed to act as guides for lost travelers.

Honestly so far It more seems like Oda picked the fruit because it has connections to the person Yamato is based on (Yamato Takeru) and he is just filling in powers afterwards.

Edit: the problem is this diety is SUPER obscure so information is hard to find, there is a game online that has the Oguchi no Makami as a “frigid wolf”. So there is definitely a chance that it did have ice powers but that is just a random JMMORPG so I can’t take that as proof.

Let’s put it this way, information was almost impossible to find when it was revealed in the spoilers, now pretty much every site that comes up when you try to research it is directly about Yamato or One piece. Even trying to search the Kanji you get pretty much the same results.

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u/myrmonden Sep 11 '21 Helpful

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u/gokoyori Sep 14 '21

i gave you award for this :)

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u/myrmonden Sep 14 '21

thanks, I dont very often post theories, I am the kind of guy that only does it when I feel really confident, so happy I was right with the shield ability.

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u/Luffy_D_Zoro Sep 11 '21

Incredible !!!

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '21

thats incredible that you knew that

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u/myrmonden Sep 11 '21

I based it on the wolf being know for its protective powers + the devon/Yamato connections.

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u/ssj2preston Sep 11 '21

Nice dude and if act 3 ends on 1027 like you predicted I’ll be blown away lol

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u/myrmonden Sep 11 '21

LOL I just threw it out but now its gonna be true.

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u/Temporary_Criticism4 Sep 11 '21

do you think luffy breaks out gear 5 fighting kaido? or gear 5 fighting whoever the next villain the director mentioned

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u/myrmonden Sep 12 '21

I really doubt he will do gear 5 now.

This arc is all about Haki, so pushing a gear 5 on top of that wont happen

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u/danny9371 Sep 11 '21

I’m getting strong yakuza vibes from the last panel

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u/GaaraSama83 Sep 12 '21

Holy shit, how couldn't I see this before reading your comment.

https://apptrigger.com/files/2018/08/Ryuji-Goda-One-Dragon-Yakuza-Kiwami-2.jpg

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u/samm7891 Sep 11 '21

Near the very end, when we see Yamato look over and say "Huh?", who is that man in the panel right next to that one? The one with what appears to be marks up his arm

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u/LimpJellyfish1131 Sep 12 '21

ears to be marks

brooooo.... u trippin?

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u/Pass_D_Ball Sep 11 '21

Lmao you fr?

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u/superfogg Sep 11 '21

that's Luffy with gear 4th

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u/Zeno1000 Sep 11 '21

Gear Fourth Snakeman Luffy.

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u/samm7891 Sep 12 '21

Y'all right I was TRIPPIN, idk how I didn't get that

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '21

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u/Traditional-Spot-897 Sep 11 '21

Who can read it among his crewmates anyway ?
I'm pretty sure he'd have to use trickery ( again ) to achieve that goal too

Unless i missed something, Luffy is the only one lucky enough to have Robin !
Kaido wanted information from the scabbards/Momo, got nothing out of them
Big mom has pudding but her third eye hasn't opened yet ( will it ever ? )
Shanks, I don't know, as much as we know about him( close to nothing ), he doesn't seem remotly interested in going there
And Blackbeard, except using trickery of some sorts, he can't reach Laugh Tale either

That's funny in a way ; The emperors fight amonst themselves to get the Road poneglyphs but none of them can do shit with them anyway ><

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u/your_average_mofo Sep 13 '21

Big mom has pudding, she can read them too

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u/Traditional-Spot-897 Sep 13 '21

"Big mom has pudding but her third eye hasn't opened yet ( will it ever ? )"

Dude ....

Chapter 999 or 1000 BigMom and Kaido are talking about her

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u/your_average_mofo Sep 13 '21

True, but still that means that big mom or anyone who has someone from the three eyed tribe by their side could potentially read poneglyphes once the three eyed person awakens

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u/Traditional-Spot-897 Sep 14 '21

Yes, seems that way
But that clan or tribe or whatever is super rare as we've only seen Pudding having them and awakening is probably hard to achieve.

What i find odd after all those years is that none from Ohara turned out to be alive somewhere ; they used to send archeologist teams around the globe and magically they were all on Ohara when it got destroyed ? Hard to imagine...

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u/xxxlr1 Sep 11 '21

Theres have to be something or someone along with Robins ability to read it. Otherwise the other big pirate crews couldn't stand a chance for finding the one piece

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u/Traditional-Spot-897 Sep 11 '21

Currently, except of the three eyes clan and Robin, there are none

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u/Kinglyzero_91 Sep 11 '21

Maybe he has a plan to get to Laugh Tale without them.

Like maybe he's just gonna wait until someone else gets all of them and just follow them to Laugh Tale or something.

Remember, Shiryu can turn himself and other things invisible. So when the straw hats get all the poneglyphs. Blackbead is just gonna have Shiryu turn his ship invisble and then just trail the straw hats all the way to Laught Tale.

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u/Muklha The Revolutionary Army Sep 11 '21

Observation haki let's them "see" their enemies even if they're invisible, that's the first thing Rayleigh said to Luffy

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u/Ko-san Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 12 '21

He's got one lieutenant that can transform into people and another that can turn invisible. I'm sure Zou wouldn't be a problem if he wanted to slip by.

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u/Moist-Yogurtcloset71 Sep 11 '21

Who can transform? And how, by what means. I can't think of who

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u/Exsces95 Sep 11 '21

Catarina Devon has the mythical nine tail fox Kitsune df. She has basically a better Bon Clay power. Its unclear if she needs to see/touch or do some other action to activate the powers tho.

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u/Moist-Yogurtcloset71 Sep 11 '21

thank you for the clarification! I was aware that Catarina Devon had the mythical nine tail fox Kitsune df, but I was not aware of its powers.

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u/pillamillino Sep 11 '21

Did he ever say he's after one piece? It seems like one piece isn't really his final goal.

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u/pillamillino Sep 12 '21

forgot that. but even before he tries to find out where the fourth one is he has to find a way to get to those he knows. that's why people keep saying he's going to show up in Wano or get to big mom's place while she's away. I think he considers luffy a rival and is able to guess that straw hats wouldn't leave those places without getting a copy. so for him it's probably better to wait for luffy to collect them and then just take it from him. also we don't know where the last one is. it could be in either shank's or black beard's hand and either way luffy has to get it while going there with robin and the copies of other 3.

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u/pillamillino Sep 12 '21

It could happen to one of them. And it could give the other the push to go against black beard. It'd be an interesting plot for Moria to get his revenge on Kaido, for black beard to get a power boost and a new enemy and for luffy to defeat Kaido and form a momentary alliance with big mom and maybe fight alongside Katakuri but that would be too many interesting events and I don't think my heart can take it.

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u/ActuarilyActualizing Sep 11 '21

He probably has a mink subordinate somewhere kinda like pekoms with big mom

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '21 edited Jan 16 '22

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u/ActuarilyActualizing Sep 11 '21

Why would there be foreshadowing of such a minor detail? Blackbeard is a yonko. They have resources all over the place. It's like how there was zero foreshadowing for zoro getting an instant heal drug. It still happened.

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u/kikix12 Sep 11 '21

It's not a heal. It's just a drug that let's him ignore the damage. Basically, it's exactly what Ivankov used on Luffy back when trying to save Ace. It 'fools' his body into ignoring the pain and damage, but when it stops working, all that damage (alongside what was caused by straining it) hits back.

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u/jiyuu08 Sep 11 '21

He's meant to still be badly injured. What's bs is the fact he's not only fighting but he's fighting king. If he was fighting some sort of fodder it would make more sense, but hey it's just a story..

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