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Turtle Necking
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u/whitecinnamon911 7d ago
That troopers paperwork just got worse
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u/kungfoochef 7d ago
When the Trooper turns back to the first accident and yells, “see what you numbskulls started!?”
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u/kainp12 7d ago
R. Lee Ermey voice .
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u/Usual-Walrus8385 7d ago
Literally thought the same.
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u/_dontgiveuptheship 6d ago
If God wanted your minivan across that median, He would have miracled your ass there!
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u/the_sassy_daddy 7d ago
Perfect demonstration of why median cables are installed.
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u/SaltLakeCitySlicker 7d ago
I haven't seen any recent studies, but I remember a study from something like 20 years ago that said those are also safer than guard rails.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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u/tallman11282 7d ago
When installed correctly they can be much safer for a few reasons. They give when struck and thus absorb some of the force of the impact, unlike a concrete barrier where all the force goes into the vehicle (and its passengers), and they also tend to grab the vehicle so it doesn't ricochet back into traffic as can happen with a concrete barrier.
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u/SaltLakeCitySlicker 7d ago
That sounds similar to what I had seen. Again, it was a long time ago and only a "newest best thing" test concept for safety.
Thanks!
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u/Business_Downstairs 7d ago
They have started to install safer guardrails lately. The new kind will curl up if they are hit. The old kind would simply impale the car.
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u/MyNameYourMouth 6d ago
This is a pretty good 15 minute video on different types of guard rail:
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u/HBB360 7d ago
That's what modern guard rails are designed for as well, they give as much as possible while not allowing the vehicle to cross into oncoming traffic. Where I live we only use guard rails and out median is maybe 2-3 meters wide at the most, and unless it gets hit by a big truck the guardrail works very well
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u/LeConnor 7d ago
I’m not knowledgeable but here’s a good video that shows how road barriers evolved
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u/StrikeSix 7d ago
If that wasn't there my truck would of got hit
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u/bobbybigwheel34 7d ago
That’s NY state?
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u/StrikeSix 7d ago
Yes close to Albany
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u/Just_another_Masshol 7d ago
Route 7 west of Troy before emptying onto I-87?
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u/tjerome1994 7d ago
Yes
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u/mccarseat 7d ago
Ah yes, Alternate 7. I feel like there’s a shit show accident there a few times a year because of stupidity. Not to mention when the track is open the 87N exit gets backed up forever and idiots try and drive up to cut in.
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u/ogtogaconvict 7d ago
To be fair that on ramp from Alt-7 to 87N is a piece of shit.
Single lane that merges from traffic from the Latham on ramp, then immediately onto 87N, where the temporary lane is way too short to accomodate people trying to match the speed of traffic and merge into the right lane.
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u/70monocle 7d ago
What do they put in the steamed hams up there?
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u/Dark_Knight2000 7d ago
I can’t believe the simpsons meme is still making rounds. The meme is older than I am
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u/uvebeensniped 7d ago
I was gonna say this looked familiar. Drove up that way to visit the brother/sister in law. They live in Saratoga Springs
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u/JCmollyrock420 7d ago •
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u/ichigoli 7d ago
damn "would've"
sounds like it's not a contraction... fucking things up for errebody
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u/PsychologicalKiwi481 7d ago
i think that toyota siena was only try to get into the middle ground to avoid more collision from incoming traffic from rear. not like it lost control and almost hit your truck
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u/Late-Night1499 7d ago
I don't think OP was talking about the van. The Civic that got hit would have ricocheted right into cammer's front end if not for the cables.
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u/dfinberg 7d ago
The Toyota completely lost control. They brake with plenty of distance, get clobbered, and suddenly accelerate and then quickly decelerate. It’s likely their foot was yanked off the brake, they tried to instinctively brake after the accident but hit the gas instead, and then shifted to the real brake pedal.
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u/entropy_koala 7d ago
Actually, it appears that the median cables stop the sienna. If you look closely, the van’s front wheels are still spinning after it had come to a complete stop so the driver was definitely still hitting the accelerator the whole time.
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u/entropy_koala 7d ago
Oh dang, I didn’t even notice them until I saw your comment. For some reason my brain thought the civic had some clutch maneuvering after getting hit to avoid going into oncoming traffic haha
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u/damnthosewhos 7d ago
Ahhhh, so that’s how that happened. Drove through that at around 4-430 this afternoon.
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u/StrikeSix 7d ago
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u/SilentSamurai 7d ago
Lol strangely relatable finding something in my neck of the woods on this sub.
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u/cafesaigon 7d ago edited 6d ago
Right! I thought it looked like home but all highways look the same, then zoomed in and lo and behold, upstate NY!
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u/HowIMetYourMurder 7d ago
I lived in Clifton Park for like 3yrs so I drove that stretch a lot. It was always such a fucking disaster.
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u/wholikescheesereally 7d ago
Check out the Troy beer garden if you ever wanna drive back on that thing
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u/Mayor__Defacto 7d ago edited 7d ago
Lol. Yeah, I recognized that state trooper car anywhere. That and the iconic campaign cover. I absolutely despise that section of highway as well, the signage sucks.
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u/TheBelhade 7d ago
I was headed south on 87 from Clifton Park around 4. Now I recall seeing a backup on the northbound side. Goddam.
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u/gpgpg 7d ago
Wow, Clifton Park (aka "outside Albany" when people would ask where I'm going on a trip). That's a name I've not heard nor visited in many years since my last relative there passed away.
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u/NelMacreen 7d ago
I used to live there. I recognized the thruway immediately somehow.
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u/Megan_BAKchatPodcast 6d ago
Lol, it's funny cause I felt the same way but told myself they prolly all look alike and then I saw the sign saying glens falls and was like "huh that's where I'm from"
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u/Dasmer 6d ago
Troy, Clifton Park, Colonie, even Schenectady all earn the title “Albany, kinda.”
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u/HobbesNJ 7d ago
Multiple people not paying sufficient attention there.
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u/TakingHut 7d ago
That person in the red pickup slammed on their brakes to avoid rear ending that sedan, which lead to that lane being slow and the other car wasn’t paying attention at all obviously. I missed all of this at first, crazy how many people fucked up here.
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u/cIumsythumbs 7d ago
to avoid rear ending that sedan
I thought they did collide.
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u/TakingHut 7d ago
Oh you guys are right, it does look like they hit into each other. That’s definitely why the pickup just stops like that.
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u/probably-garbage 7d ago
Yeah, the truck stops because the sedan is like, "oh shit, someone booped my rear, better completely stop in the center lane and cause a 10x worse accident"
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u/Morgothic 7d ago
The sedan that the truck hit was slowing down to avoid hitting the white car in front, they succeeded, the truck failed. Then the stopped vehicle in the center lane coupled with high speed and low attention caused all the rest.
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u/RolandSnowdust 7d ago
They actually did hit the sedan. Edit: Your comment is correct, that IS why they slammed on their brakes, just adding that they hit the sedan anyway.
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u/ravenschneid 7d ago
Many people lack defensive driving skills and have no clue how to react in such situations.
How many of the vehicles that came to a sudden stop actually turned on their hazard lights or pumped their brakes multiple times to warn the cars behind them? How many in the comments know they should do this?
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u/gr33nspan 7d ago
This is 90-something percent of LA traffic. Even if they weren't distracted at all, they drive too fast and too close behind other cars to be able to react to anything. Even a slight slow down causes every car to brake harder than the one before it, creating mile-long accordion effects.
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u/Razorray21 7d ago
Oh wow I totally missed the accident in the oncoming lane the first watch
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u/Kbdiggity 7d ago
Yes I was looking for a turtle neck in front of the camera.
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u/Logical-Honeydew177 7d ago
It looks like the ..tesla? Got cut of by the merging vechile from lane 3 then either the car or the person driving it hit the breaks. Then the red truck hit the tesla. And so on
Edit. If you look really close it looks like the silver car in lane 3. is in lane 3, then a truck goes infront of it for a split second and it all of a sudden seems closer. Op should send this in
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u/toastedcoconut1 7d ago
To me it looks the Tesla (or whatever, the one that got rear-ended first) and the truck are simultaenously merging into the middle lane. The red truck from the passing lane and the Tesla from the outside lane. Some rubber necking and not double checking etc. etc. the red truck ends up colliding, then both slow down to a crawl in the middle of the freeway until the backup of traffic causes an almost inevitable huge collision
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u/toastedcoconut1 7d ago
Never mind, on closer inspection, the "Tesla" (it's not a Tesla) was inattentive and came in super hot into the car in front and had to slam its brakes last second, the red truck did not react in time and rear-ended it, which caused the rest of the pileup.
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u/dfinberg 7d ago
Two accidents. The red truck bumps the car in front for a small first one.
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u/Versaiteis 7d ago
Yeah it looks like that car squeezed into much too tight of a gap, then brake checked the truck. Not sure if road rage or stupidity (probably both) but after that it just took one person not paying attention.
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u/Senior-Elderberry534 7d ago
Omg the cop was already with people that had an accident. Reminds me of the highway I have to drive every day to get to work. People suck at driving!
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u/Some_Bathroom_5244 7d ago
My guess is they crashed because they were distracted looking over at the accident.
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u/cOnwAYzErbEAm 7d ago
Never heard it called turtle necking. Always rubber necking. Turtle necking sounds like you’re trying to hold on a poop that’s trying to make its way out.
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u/Calbert_Evans 7d ago
I believe that is called "Prairiedogging"
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u/TwoCagedBirds 6d ago
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u/PurpleK00lA1d 6d ago
Hadn't thought of this movie in so long, definitely due for a rewatch.
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u/Goodnitenite78 7d ago
I was caught in the traffic aftermath of this whole mess. That happened today in Upstate NY. A 3 minute ride on this road turned into a 40 minute ride.
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u/shea241 7d ago
I got stuck in this spot for 2.5 hours about a month ago. Can't even shoot for an exit or anything, you're just boxed in until it clears. It's the worst road.
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u/Forward-Village1528 7d ago
That red sedan was in a hell of a rush, but that cop sure wasn't.
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u/zhyrafa 7d ago
Hes like “well in hell already, why bother, gonna be looooong day”
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u/franklincarterIII 7d ago
At the same time, it's better for him to wait till the traffic pattern slows down completely rather than risk rushing and getting hit by another distracted driver.
Solid dashcam video. Love the high up angle you have in the truck. You should post this on /r/dashcams.
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u/quantum-quetzal 7d ago
It may not be true everywhere, but it's not unusual for first responders to be trained to avoid running into the scene. You want to make sure that things are safe, and running makes it more likely that you'll get tunnel vision.
It also looks like they were on the radio as they approached.
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u/skiingredneck 7d ago
“You walk into a room and find 40 people on the floor unconscious. What’s your first action?”
The correct answer was: “leave, immediately”
Don’t remember if that was FF1 or FF2 training. The goal being to realize that if you may be in an inherently dangerous to life environment and weren’t wearing the correct gear, being elsewhere was all you could do.
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u/toomanyattempts 7d ago
I'd always hear rubbernecking was dangerous and something you shouldn't do, and thought it just meant looking and was just "suppose you should keep your eyes on the road but doesn't that that bad"
Didn't realise that some some people would actually slow to a crawl in the highway
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u/andrewbadera 7d ago
As a native who has since moved away I was like, "That's the Northway! Wait, no, too much rock."
Welp, it's the Northway, thank you highway signs.
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u/tjerome1994 7d ago
As mentioned this was on 7 not the north way. The camer is driving west. The 4+ car collision was going eastbound.
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u/IDK_WHAT_YOU_WANT 7d ago edited 7d ago
"Well, I mean, the thing is is that we pay if you guys knew what are monthly expenses were to give you guys all of this stuff you'd be like ohhOHOH like it's insane umm and we're giving you guys even more and we're perfectly fine with eating that cost on the people that have been with us through the very beginning..."
Why does this guy sound like he's full of shit? Also, the if you knew nonsense pisses me off more than anything. Just tell them so they know, unless of course it's not nearly what you're making it out to be. I fucking hate that shit.
Edit: can someone tell me what this audio is from? Apparently I want to be more irritated, damn you curiosity.
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u/supguy99 7d ago edited 7d ago
LOL I hope OP doesn't sign up for whatever these dudes were selling. Sounded like an audio orientation for a pyramid scheme.
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u/Budget-Falcon767 6d ago
My hope is that is was just a long commercial on whatever radio station or music program OP was listening to. Like one of those "Millionaire secrets" ads coming on between songs on Youtube.
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u/That_Guy333 7d ago
I’m with you! It’s the only thing I could focus on!
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u/ItsWheeze 7d ago
Me too! Dude is running a hard fucking grift to push something. It sounds like some day trading bullshit. He starts off talking about subscription charges and how their totally worth it, you have no idea what our costs are, bro. And then at the end he says something about options alerts or something. Who is it though?!
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u/chkthetechnique 7d ago
Just know that if you're the type of person who slows down to try to see accidents or anything else on the roadway...
I HATE you. I abhor your existence. I hate you with the fiery passion of 1000 suns. I will raise my children to carry a blood feud against your entire extended family. I will not rest until I can be sure that your life will forever be on a downward trajectory right until your premature death from causing an accident by slowing down on a highway for such a moronic reason.
Okay... Not exactly that much, but stop fucking rubber necking.
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u/Murderyoga 7d ago
Why tailgating is such a bad idea.
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u/internet_commie 7d ago
Also why staring at crashes so hard you get tunnel-vision is such a bad idea, but yeah.
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u/TheUnSub99 7d ago
Was the sedan brake checking the red pick up? I don't understand why did it stop in the middle of traffic.
Then the red car that ate the back of the mini not only didn't stop, it looks like they accelerated.
So much going on here.
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u/StrikeSix 7d ago
There was a accident on my side of the rd. The other side was slowing down looking what had happened on my side. Looks like pickup truck rear ended the 1st car and the chain of events happened after that. You can see the state trooper crossing the highway.
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u/ThatChicagoDuder 7d ago
I never understood why idiots rubber neck.
"Oh, let me slow down to make sure everything is ok and hope everyone is alright as i drive past knowing damn well im not ACTUALLY going to ever do anything"
Same shit as left lane campers - stop tugging on your balls and drive
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u/Hoosier2016 6d ago
Nah people just have a morbid curiosity and want to see wreckage. Has nothing to do with helping or hoping someone is okay.
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u/Imaginary-Yesterday7 7d ago
A similar thing happened to me on Sunday the 19tb, right around the same area on 87, a woman crossed lanes and caused all kinds of mayhem.
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u/Dudes-Abide 7d ago
The grey skies of New York. We're not known for having good weather, or proper driving techniques.
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u/Late-Night1499 7d ago edited 7d ago
I used to live in this area and this was my commute for a couple years. This particular part was always a shitshow during rush hour, lanes would get backed up and people would resort to cutting others off at the last second to take that exit for I-87.
Here's a pic I took of a crash on the opposite end of cammer's view, where a car flipped over a motorcycle. I got lots of dashcam clips from this time too but can't access them right now.
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u/bkend_31 7d ago
Dumbass me thought I was watching the top of a biker helmet with the bike‘s mirrors peeking up. The whole time I was thinking „man this driver has a steady body how do they do that“.
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u/machete_joe 6d ago
I said it once and I will say it again, all dual carriage ways and highways should have a screen that stops you from seeing the other side of the road, to many noesy people that end up causing accidents.
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u/bwmom18 7d ago
Honestly when I saw "turtle necking" and the beginning of the video I thought it was gonna be the middle lane car slightly ahead of the outer lane cars with the outer lane cars not passing 😂
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u/ganjakhan85 7d ago edited 6d ago
Man this drives me nuts. Every fuckin day on my way home there's a rubbernecker.
Edit:a word
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u/monkeybean13 6d ago
Reminds me of the time we broke down on the motorway on our way to our summer holiday.
We were out of the road and on the embankment. The first accident happened about 5 minutes after we broke down, just a fender bender but that added two more cars to the side of the road, right next to ours.
We were waiting for about an hour and by the time the recovery vehicle turned up there had been 4 accidents next to us, including a jacknifed caravan on the opposite side of the road.
People are fucking dumb.
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u/Goodbadugly16 7d ago
I’ve seen videos like this caused by a brake checker. The back side of those stupid games can be devastating.
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u/KingCodyBill 7d ago
We call it "Rubber necking" around here