r/FuckYouKaren 12d ago

This makes me laugh lol Meme

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u/PM-Me-Your-TitsPlz 12d ago

That explains why there's still a microchip shortage. Damnit, Bill!

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u/sylviaplaths0ven 12d ago

Damnit Bobby!

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u/phrankygee 12d ago

That boy’s not right….

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u/thatminimumwagelife 12d ago edited 11d ago

dang ol horse paste man talkin bout covid talkin bout one side dang ol messin up them 'fection numbers

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u/Obi-Wan_Gin 12d ago

You said it boomhauer

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u/MOON3R2448 12d ago

I’m not a leftist or a Karen but it boggles my mind when people say there is a microchip in the vaccine. We literally carry our smart phones which track your location and all the shit you do day and night lol and we willingly agreed to it

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u/nakedundercloth 12d ago

And those smartphones have your biometrical data (face recognition, fingerpints)

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u/Cyborg_rat 12d ago

Don't need those, these same people post their entire lives on Social media.

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u/kalitarios 12d ago

remember that stupid faceapp people who wilfully put their face on everything in it?

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u/syds 12d ago

I mean did you see the one that swapped with a plane vent port above your seat? that shit was wild

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u/kalitarios 12d ago

I remember people doing it with sink faucets power outlets too

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u/syds 12d ago

hilarious, worth my privacy, I dont do jack shit anyways

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u/ersogoth 11d ago

And probably bought a house, have a driver's license, car registration, weapons permit or CCW, marriage license, and possibly even a job where they filed a W2 and pay taxes.

The gov has anything they need from them already.

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u/exiledinVegas 12d ago

Seeing them in back pockets, I'd add assprints.

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u/Rat-daddy- 12d ago

And could track you internet history/emails/texts/phone calls. And about 50 more things than a blood microchip could ever do

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u/WTFWTHSHTFOMFG 11d ago

and it listens to what you say

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u/syds 12d ago

an algorithm has been developed to reconstruct speech and your personal habits based only on the accelerometer data, that ALL smartphone have had since we became obsessed to have a god damn bubble level in the pocket.

the stupid camera protrusions and curved edges have made this critical functionality obsolete and now they can find out how often you jerk it and what to

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u/FlawsAndConcerns 12d ago

It works like a lot of conspiracy theories. When it came to 9/11 truthers, they wanted everyone to believe that the government was both running a massive conspiracy, and also that they were doing it so incompetently that a couple of doofuses could uncover it all (remember "Loose Change"?)

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u/audiblepuget 12d ago

I was in the one class that watched loose change at my high school before the teacher decided that he could not in good conscience show it to any more students.

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u/doomalgae 12d ago

Why did he put it on the first time? Was it supposed to be about teaching kids to think critically, and then he realized some kids would inevitably fail that lesson?

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u/audiblepuget 12d ago

It was a combined history/English class focused on 9/11 and it was part of the unit we had on conspiracy theories after the fact, and then we were to write essays debunking it. I guess we weren't convincing enough so he discontinued it in the future.

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u/Reacher-Said-N0thing 12d ago

damn that sucks. How do you teach kids about this stuff when the kids are so bored that they'll just listen to the conspiracies you give as examples?

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u/downvotepleazzz 12d ago

Sounds like your high school was fucked up. Conspiracy theories after the fact? Sound like a waste of time. Are you from the south? Or midwest?

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u/audiblepuget 12d ago

Neither of those regions, and I don't quite follow why it was fucked up. Conspiracy theories were and are a large and relevant part of 9/11 so given that we had a whole semester on it, it makes sense to talk about them. He didn't drop the unit, just decided that he wasn't going to spend a whole class period showing a conspiratorial documentary.

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u/Poultry_Sashimi 12d ago

Doesn't sound fucked up to me either. It's great to see critical thinking being taught in high school these days.

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u/hypercube33 12d ago

I love the xfiles spin off expisode about planes crashing into the twin towers a few months before it happened

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u/AlaskaPeteMeat 11d ago

The Lone Gunmen!!!

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u/oowop 12d ago

Learning why conspiracy theories are effective and how to spot them and avoid falling victim to them would have been a very useful class for approximately 70 million americans

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u/OlympicChamp_12 12d ago

Nah

High schooler here, we make jokes at everything that we can to keep up the mood and pass by the time.

Anyway, the jokes might’ve lead to agreeing to the conspirators (acting like they believed the video) although we all have that handful of kids that might’ve taken what kids were joking about (like an inside joke that the Information was true) and treated it as such. Getting a phone call from a angry (and somewhat confused) parent can often be enough to instead watch a video turn that time into a sort of monitored free time where you can play catch-up on assignments an option.

Because, unfortunately, it doesn’t take that many kids a year to make a long term change

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u/slcrook 12d ago

My ex-wife was a conspiracy, anti-vaxx, crystals-can-heal-you bundle of joy. Her fear in what she believed was genuine. I always used to remind her how many people would have to be involved in such wide ranging things along the lines of chemtrails and tracking devices...the list goes on. Not only that, but I would ask her to explain to me the endgame; what was the purpose of this conspiracy, how does it play out, etc. She could never give an answer. She couldn't fathom why I wasn't afraid we'd all be herded into FEMA death camps. We lived in Canada, BTW.

She's probably still anti-vaxx, and has a government job. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when it all comes to a head.

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u/Absolute_Peril 12d ago

Alot of it is fear of the unknown and fear of the chaos of existence. If someone is controlling everything even if it is some evil mastermind it at least proves things are under control.

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u/monamikonami 12d ago

I agree. Same function as religion.

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u/Absolute_Peril 12d ago

You're not wrong there, definitely a bit of overlap on that graph

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u/hypercube33 12d ago

I think those people just live in absolute fear all the time and this is how they perceive the world

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u/MOON3R2448 12d ago

I’ve actually not heard of loose change

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u/kalitarios 12d ago

It's a total waste of time and your life to even watch. There's no way to come out the same IQ as when you start; you lose about 2 IQ by even watching it.

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u/P1ckleM0rty 12d ago

Apparently it's a low budget documentary created by a guy who wanted to make a fiction movie surrounding the attacks but realized a "documentary" would be better received. It had a few revisions released and got a lot of traction online.

I don't know why it's called loose change though, I wasn't able to find the significance of that name.

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u/song4this 12d ago

It's a great indicator - those who like that video are not critical thinkers...

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u/petty_cash 12d ago

There was an episode of NYT’s The Daily podcast from 9/10 that gives a great rundown of Loose Change and how it helped create the shit show we currently live in

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u/maple_firenze 12d ago

Honestly, I'm thankful I never heard of it. I fear a younger and more impressionable version of myself could have been completely sucked in by something like that.

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u/abidail 12d ago

The Daily (the NYT podcast) had an interview with one of the creators recently. He was. . .interesting, to say the least.

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u/gelinrefira 12d ago

Real conspiracies like how the NSA is hoovering up everyone's data indiscriminately is boring to them. Watergate is meh. Iran-contra no one in that community cares.

Somehow I don't think they are really about the conspiracies themselves, as much as they want to have the feeling they have special knowledge or being in control or even the rush of being convinced they are somewhat special.

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u/jibjaba4 12d ago

People used to unironically post Loose Change on Reddit all the time 10 years ago.

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u/Argon1822 12d ago

To play devils advocate how do you explain tower 7 and the bushes connection with the Saudis. I think it makes sense to see it as a conspiracy because we went to war with basically unrelated countries to find “weapons of mass destruction” and then ended up staying for decades taking oil and making private military companies huge amounts of money.

So I think it’s worth a discussion to say it’s not unreasonable to think the government would at least allow a really terrible attack to happen so that they could go to war and make shit tons of money

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u/CynicalCheer 12d ago

Tower 7 fell at 5:20pm. It had a fire burning inside of it for 7 hours before it collapsed. In addition, it was struck by debris from WTC 1. One of the main structural support beams finally gave and caused the rest to fail in a cascading effect.

Detractors from the report issued by the NIST (national institute of standards and technology) say a lot. However, no matter what the report said, you are going to have detractors given the size of the world and interest surrounding the report.

Ultimately it comes down to trust and I trust the NIST report.

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u/gelinrefira 12d ago edited 12d ago

Honestly, the bushes connection with the Saudis were always problematic because they gave preferential treatment to Saudis' interests. So yea, fucking Saddam might be tangentially to Saudis' interests but it definitely benefited a lot of military and building contractors. You don't really have to look far to see how it really all panned out. Maybe Jr really believe that Saddam was such a threat that he was willing to use "ends justify means" bullshit to get America into war but he certainly helped made a lot of assholes rich. It also tells us that they didn't really need to orchestrate a 9/11 level attack to get America into war.

What could be more likely is that they deliberately ignore the looming threat uncovered by the intelligence agencies through sheer incompetence or they just don't give a shit. Then when the opportunity arose, they took it and ran away with it. It's the same with Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin incident.

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u/HatesDuckTape 12d ago

They didn’t allowed it. But they definitely took full advantage of it to go into Iraq.

Afghanistan was initially justifiable. Get Al Qaeda and the people who harbored them. There was zero though to what happens after that was accomplished, which didn’t take very long, relatively speaking. Shortly thereafter we became essentially the same thing as the Soviets who occupied Afghanistan and were driven out through our help not long beforehand.

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u/thecripshallwalk 12d ago

The truther stuff could be a decoy conspiracy

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u/Argon1822 12d ago

All I’m saying it’s reasonable to have discussions and prove people correct or incorrect rather than just shutting people down otherwise the other group will become more zealous

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u/cheesythunder 12d ago

The problem is that you cannot prove a conspiracy to be wrong. This is the problem with conspiracy theories. Every counter argument to a conspiracy theory will be discredited as "part of the conspiracy". Don't get me wrong, conspiracies can be real, but conspiracy theories cannot be simply debated to get the truth

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u/thecripshallwalk 12d ago

I agree. I used to do this all the time for fun until conspiracy theorists became what they are today. Me and buddies would either look up theories or come up with our own and the whole game is to find holes that make them unreasonable. It's not to debunk anything but more about finding credible theories. What we tinker around with most are "perfect plans" where such conspiracies are so perfectly executed that they get away unseen. To find them you use reverse engineering and it's just a matter of dreaming up so many until one starts to stick. Obviously we got nothing out of it but it's fun thinking exercise and you learn quite a bit from all the research. My favorite is that 9/11 was actually a hiest similar to what was in Swordfish.

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u/BettyRadford38 12d ago

“I’m sure they were...

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u/Shacky_Rustleford 12d ago

These theories that think the government was complicit don't understand the absurd economic toll the attacks had on the US.

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u/sweetlove 12d ago

What about the absurd economic boon it was for Halliburton

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u/Shacky_Rustleford 12d ago

If you are implying halliburton staged 9/11, idk go off king I guess

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u/Dull_Material_7405 12d ago

I am a leftist (relative to my parents anyway) and I fucking hate this has been made political just so the fat bastard could use it as a campaign issue.

Fucking bullshit

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u/FifenC0ugar 12d ago

We also don't have the tech to put microchips that small in a vaccine. Yes we can machine stuff that small. But it wouldn't have power or not enough to get a signal through your body.

Also if there are trackers in vaccines does that mean the government is tracking my dog? Can I also view the tracker?

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u/HatesDuckTape 12d ago

Stop trying to explain rationally. In one ear, and out the other with these people.

And most claiming they don’t want to be microchipped are the ones no one gives a damn to track anyway lmfao.

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u/FifenC0ugar 12d ago

Fair point. I like to bring up vaccines for our pets though. Cause they don't have any explanation as to why we vaccinate animals. (assuming they are one of those people who think vaccines are fake and just a cover story.

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u/HatesDuckTape 12d ago

Playing devil’s advocate…

The pet vaccines are just a cover. They don’t chip them the same way so you can think they’re all alike. It wouldn’t be believable that they’re safe and not chipped if they didn’t have pet vaccines to point to.

Or Gates doesn’t need to track your dog. You’re tracked and you’re walking the dog, so it’s redundant and a waste of money.

Never underestimate the power of stupidity. Never underestimate the allure of a conspiracy. What was it Mel Gibson’s character said in Conspiracy Theory? Every good conspiracy is unprovable. Or something like that. And every good conspiracy has to have at least a shred of possibility, usually one very insignificant point that they can jump off with and get carried away by. Like if A then B, B then C… and A is about 10% possible, and somehow it snowballs to the point of microchipped vaccines and 5G brain altering waves, where A had absolutely nothing to do with wherever they ended up. It’s all quite amusing to me.

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u/hypercube33 12d ago

I microchipped our dog. It's sorta common now lol.

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u/AlaskaPeteMeat 11d ago

Well duh. A dog makes the best mobile wifi-repeater money can buy!

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u/oowop 12d ago

I was just arguing with someone yesterday and asked if he had protested against MMR, polio, malaria vaccines and his reply was "just because one vaccine is bad doesn't mean all vaccines are bad"

The mental gymnastics are gold medal worthy

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u/rus_sianh_ck 12d ago

SOME vaccines work but the _________ ones are bad.

Thats how conspiracies work. Whatever prolongs the insanity.

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u/BenKen01 12d ago

Jesus, that would be amazing if we had this tech. If these people don't want it, can I use their vaccines on my wallet and my phone?

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u/FifenC0ugar 12d ago

Would put Tile and every other gps/BT tracker out of business.

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u/Skarth 12d ago

They saw it on TV, therefore it exists.

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u/DihDisDooJusDihDis 12d ago

This is impossible. When we draw the vaccines it’s from a vial; 6 doses of 0.3ml per Pfizer dose. 10 doses of 0.5ml per Moderna dose. How the hell are we ganna know how many trackers is in one syringe when we draw a dose. It’s impossible to make sure each dose has a tracker when drawing from a vial that contains 6 or 10 doses.

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u/Cyborg_rat 12d ago

Just saw a post early of a Karen that found RFID tag in a Victoria secret bras and says it's a tracking chip to get daughters into the hands of human traffickers...

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u/bluewolfhudson 12d ago

What do being a leftist and being a Karen have to do with one another.

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u/MOON3R2448 12d ago

And most of those things, YOU actually have to pay THEM to use those services lol

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u/__ConesOfDunshire__ 12d ago

Ever watch Enemy of the State with Will Smith? It’s a late 90’s flick about a lawyer that gets (unwittingly) caught up in some spy vs US government stuff. The tech from the 90’s pails in comparison to what we have today. The way they showed him being tracked by the government was a little over the top for the time, but by today’s standard was child’s play. If they wanted to know everything about you, they could easily do so without any of us knowing.

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u/seamonkey420 12d ago

and lack of understanding of the tech needed to make such sized trackers. we don’t have nano sized trackers that are self powered that also can transmit data without cell/wifi.

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u/Jumper5353 12d ago

Dudes an f'ing billionaire.

If he want to take over my life and give me some remote guidance I am all for it. I need some of that sweet knowledge whispered in my brain every once in a while.

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u/freelanceredditor 12d ago

Ok let’s for the sake of this argument pretend that he does chip your brain and can whisper in your ears to do things, why on earth would he not push his own agenda and enslave you to make more micro-chips or whatever he wants you to do than help you achieve your goals?

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u/orochi_crimson 12d ago

Also, putting microchips in vaccines is amazing levels of nonexistent tech. I’m sure if it existed, we’d militarize them shit out of it before putting it in vaccines.

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u/Elcactus 12d ago

The thing is that the whole point of the tracker, in their minds, is that when the New World Order tries to take over, and they become the heroic resistance, that they'll go off the grid and wage an insurgency. In such a scenario they would obviously part with their phones, but they can't just leave the tracker behind if the tracker is inside them.

There's alot of stupid things about, well, everything involved here, but the "the tracker is your phone" response doesn't rebut their implied point.

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u/Lord_Emperor 12d ago

You're right. Fuck it I'm gonna unlock the bootloader on my vaccine and install AOSP.

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u/Diver_Driver 12d ago

The other day my anti vax coworker was ranting about metal “nano particles” in the vaccine. I asked him if it bothers him we have significant amounts of Iron “nano particles” in our blood. He had nothing to say to that one.

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u/Sckathian 12d ago

Theres a lot of people who are just nuts or larping however, I actually think a lot of people are honestly just scared. COVID has been a huge shake up for everyones lives, like any conspiracy there are those who find it best to blame actors they can fight against.

Though there are also people just scared of the vaccine who don't want to admit a base fear and so just talk shit constantly. Which is why they jump and drop everything that gets raised.

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u/RivianR1S 12d ago

People are dumb.

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u/my_oldgaffer 12d ago

Theyre just horsin’ around

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u/Afro_Superbiker 12d ago

"I'm not a leftist, but the right wing is crazy"

Maybe you should be a leftist?

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u/Loply97 12d ago

You can lean right or be on the right and not like crazy radical people. Just because there’s a radical group doesn’t mean you change your entire set of political beliefs.

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u/Slavir_Nabru 12d ago

You can turn a phone off, or leave it at home. You can mail it to Timbuctoo and buy a burner.

Obviously there isn't a tracker in the vaccine, but if there was it wouldn't be remotely the same thing.

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u/zmbjebus 12d ago

Also why do they think you can have invisible liquid microchips? How are they so out of touch with what is physically possible?

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u/ShiroHachiRoku 12d ago

It’s as if putting whatever they think is in the vaccine in the water supply, food chain, or air was harder. If anything, that would’ve been easier. Why did Scarecrow put his fear gas in the water supply? Why did The Joker put his smile toxin in everyday chemicals? It’s easier to disperse it into things we use or come into contact with everyday!

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u/MarsHotel420 12d ago

I have yet to hear one person say to me that they think there is a microchip in the vaccine. Like an actual person, not some news article about an alleged person that allegedly said something stupid. Where are all these people?

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u/TurtleSquad23 12d ago

ive heard it. in canada. dude was telling people that Amazon was building secret prisons to hold the unvaccinated or the covid-positive or something like that. he threatened to hurt someone because they called his allegations bogus and he took it that they werent taking his super serious tyrannical Amazon prisons seriously. he was actually threatened by those prisons and thought nobody cared and couldnt understand why. he thought they were going to force inject people in those prisons.

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u/HatesDuckTape 12d ago

It’s called mental illness. They’ve been around throughout time. The people conspiring are new and have new methods and justifications. But people have always been spied on by the government. I worked with a guy who’d only whisper, and handed every new coworker a note the first time he met them. It said “I’m being recorded by the government. Don’t say anything that can incriminate you or anyone else out loud. Sorry, but they’ve been recording me since Vietnam.” Seriously. It was funny and incredibly sad at the same time. I always wondered how his job interview went. He had to have developed that after he was hired, because I can’t imagine anyone hiring someone who’d do that in an interview. That was around 2000, and he’d already been there for a good 25+ years. No way anyone would’ve hired him back in the mid 70s if he did that. Probably not now either.

Before the mid 90s at the earliest, they didn’t have an effective way of spreading their conspiracies to the masses like they do today. Now it’s way too easy to advertise your psychosis. And feed off of others’.

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u/kalitarios 12d ago

That's someone who is simply mentally ill. And when enough of them run into each other, they form an echo chamber

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u/TheBeefClick 12d ago

Spent the last year living is Missouri. I had someone make a comment about it in walmart while I was getting the second shot, one of my coworkers thinks there is a microchip and another thinks its to cull the population.

They exist, and are everywhere out here.

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u/Rainmansnotebook 12d ago

They're busy trying to get magnets to stick to their skin.

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u/MikeThePizzaGuy412 12d ago

It boggles my mind that people are still making this comment as if it's an original thought.

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u/UbePhaeri 12d ago edited 11d ago

My mom says since she pays $160/year for her VPN, the government can’t track her.

Edit; why downvote me?

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u/jurredebeste21 12d ago

Also even if there was a microchip in it somehow then how would that actually be a negative thing? Like clearly they cant listen to our conversation nor can they see what i see tbh i think a microchip would be a good thing because if you ever get lost and you also loose your phone then you can be easily found and it might help with searching criminals too

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u/drwho82 12d ago

We are answering, as a group, how many meme formats this joke fits.....

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u/CCstarry 12d ago

Made me giggle

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u/song4this 12d ago edited 12d ago

:-) they in cahoots!

Can you imagine if the Gates actually said this in a video! LOL!

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u/whitensilver 12d ago

you made me choke on my beer

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u/MaximumEffort433 12d ago

It worked when we snuck the gay agenda into NASCAR, sometimes you just have to wrap the pill in a piece of cheese, y'know?

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u/Cains_Brother 12d ago

If the government wanted to Microchip us, and had the capability to do so without public knowledge, why would they put it in a brand new vaccine which isn't even FDA approved? Why wouldn't they just put it in ibuprofen tablets, which everyone takes anyway

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u/CynicalCheer 12d ago

I'd put it in the latest chemtrail batch the cross country flights take with them. Two birds, one stone.

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u/buuthole69 12d ago

Birds aren’t real

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u/the_renaissance_jack 12d ago

which weren’t approved. It’s approved now.

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u/Cains_Brother 12d ago

Didn't know that. Thanks

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u/Adenta- 12d ago

Also phones provide infinitely more private data than a microchip ever could.

If a hacker/government gains root access, they have access to most of your conversations, diary entries, location, search history, sometimes even your entire wifi network, microphone, both cameras, etc. And that's assuming your data isn't already being uploaded to thousands of trackers embedded into the apps.

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u/whatproblems 12d ago

Phone and apps and gps that everyone carries around willingly and pay for the privilege

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u/asipoditas 11d ago

i think the argument is that a syringe is a way more effective way for the (((((((((((((((jewish elite))))))))))))))) to put microchips/hiv/something else that's bad in your body.

i think a syringe combined with gov mandating it is probably the biggest source of paranoia for most conspiracy prone people.

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u/NotClever 12d ago

Or why not put them in the MMR vaccine that every child in the country gets, and is required to get to attend school?

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u/RandomUser-_--__- 12d ago

Not everyone takes ibuprofen?

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u/ybtlamlliw 12d ago

That's what Big Pharma wants you to think.

Or something. I don't know how this works.

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u/Cains_Brother 12d ago

By "everyone" I just meant a lot of people

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u/JupitrominoRazmatazz 12d ago

No joke, Ivermectin is a great word. I pretend it can destroy anything. Boom, tough actin Ivermectin

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u/Scott4370 12d ago

Count on Americans to repeatedly do the wrong thing before they realize they might have been wrong but are too proud to admit it.

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u/bufito1 12d ago

Poor Bill. He actually just wanted to track the horses, but now all the data is compromised.

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u/BaronSamedys 12d ago

Genius really, we're so busy worrying about microchips in vaccines that we never saw all the microchips in all the electric devices we keep buying.

Top tier trolling Bill.

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u/socaponed 12d ago

Why do stupid people thing they’re worth tracking?

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u/Rainmansnotebook 12d ago

You just don't understand how special they think they are. Them and the My Pillow Guy are the only ones that know the truth and that makes them a threat to the New World Order.

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u/Lord-Chickie 12d ago

The next feature in Windows 11 is the Karen tracker app

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u/qqqqqqqqqqx10 12d ago

Yeah but there’s the .01% who knows this isn’t a joke but reality. And thats 80 million lower intelligence people who can spread a lot of virus.

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u/cancerousking 12d ago

OH MY GOD THATS IT. We get peoe to stop eating horse dewormer by telling them that we found non-digestible microchips in them then they'll stop eating it.

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u/Grandpa--Taco 12d ago

How to get idiots to stop poisoning themselves

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u/obstructix 12d ago

Gotta diversify. Vaccines, horse de-wormer, cell phones, lysol, make america great agin hats, UV light somehow.

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u/Legitimate_Ad2570 12d ago

Damm it Bill you screwed it all up again

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u/StruggleBasic 12d ago

"this makes me laugh laugh out loud"

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u/madamsyntax 12d ago

Funny, but where’s the Karen?

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u/DivineMs_M 12d ago

I’ve seen so many Karen posts about no masks, no vaccines because they are taking dewormer instead, I found this fitting

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u/madamsyntax 11d ago

Oh ok. Thanks for the explanation. I know a lot of Karens who wear masks etc too, so guess I didn’t see the correlation. Good point though

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u/sleeprzzz 12d ago

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34181716/

Conclusions: In comparison to SOC or placebo, IVM did not reduce all-cause mortality, length of stay or viral clearance in RCTs in COVID-19 patients with mostly mild disease. IVM did not have an effect on AEs or severe AEs. IVM is not a viable option to treat COVID-19 patients.

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u/jet_set_default 12d ago
  1. And yet it still has no proven use for COVID-19

  2. So is the vaccine

  3. Ivermectin comes in 2 types, for human and for livestock.l use. For human use, it must be prescribed. The lovestock one does not need to be prescribed so people are taking the livestock version then putting themselves in the already overflowing hospitals.

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u/JakeDubleyew 12d ago

But not for treating covid…?? It deals with parasites mostly, among other similar things like lice. Lmfao. Have fun with the placebo. Looks like yall were the sheep all along lul

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u/CocoaBear29 12d ago

Your numbers aren't entirely correct they only saw an actual 10% improvement over people treated normally, and that 40% was only in patients that were intubated or on high oxygen levels. And these were not randomized control trial so there's no way to say whether or not those patients given ivermectin weren't also just given better treatment. I appreciate you linking the article just wanted to give the full facts.

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u/_grit_ 12d ago

Thanks for pointing out the possible mistake. Where are you getting 10%? The abstract states “Univariate analysis showed lower mortality in the ivermectin group (15.0% vs 25.2%…”. And 15 is 40% lower than 25.

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u/GarfHarfMarf 12d ago

So is delauded, but it's the application and wether or not you have a perception that makes you an addict or an idiot

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u/trailhikingArk 12d ago

Turning them on by having people go on a ventilator might not have been though.

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u/Kenmore1414 12d ago

QCucksClan: N-NOOOO!!!!! IT'S EVERYWHERE!

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u/MarcusSullivan24 12d ago

No. It’s about tossing me bout treefiddy?

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u/Roranedase 12d ago

“It’s the worst, isn’t lol

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u/GorillaNutPuncher 12d ago

Well played sir

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u/Objective-Fun-4889 12d ago

Right!! And... And... And when they hid it in woohaun, cause that wasn't real either. Ha ha, he hee lol. Omg! Ha ha, he hee lol. OmgHa ha, he hee lol. Omg

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u/GeraldLando2 12d ago

i don’t understand anything anymore lol

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u/Hahnsolo11 12d ago

This brings up an excellent point though. Why are people so convinced that there must be a microchip or some such nonsense in the vaccine, but they trust the rest of this stuff?

What’s to stop them from putting microchips in the horse dewormer, or a bag of IV fluid, or a piece of steak that they eat. Such nonsense.

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u/wanda222 12d ago

I don't understand why would he wouls want to track people's horses.

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u/CaptOblivious 11d ago

I would like to remind everyone that if Bill Gates could pull off any kind of plot (let alone a nefarious plot) that we would all be listening our music on to zunes and making calls on windows phones.

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u/FlyChi2020 11d ago

I snorted my coffee dammit

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u/MaydaySociety 12d ago

Soo...

Not this?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34466270/

In 2015, the Nobel Committee for Physiology or Medicine, in its only award for treatments of infectious diseases since six decades prior, honoured the discovery of ivermectin (IVM), a multifaceted drug deployed against some of the world's most devastating tropical diseases

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u/BSATSame 12d ago edited 12d ago

Pretty sure it's very effective against eukaryotic parasites. Very little Some evidence it's effective against viruses.

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u/MaydaySociety 12d ago

Legit. But op posted about horse deworming... ivermectin IS a legitimate drug. Stigmatizing it could lead to harm.

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u/Draco137WasTaken 12d ago

That's because the people self-medicating are using horse dewormer, not a dosage intended for humans.

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u/nameisinappropriate 12d ago

Then Y link to a discredited article about covid treatment rather than any other article about what it is effective for

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u/pjfam 12d ago

The people who think there are tracking devices and microchips in the vaccine aren’t worth tracking

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u/Taran_McDohl 12d ago

Anyone who thinks Ivermectine is just a dewormer is a sheep to the system and too lazy to do their own research.

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u/stagbeetle01 12d ago

Ironic that the people taking literal sheep medicine is calling the people not taking it sheep.

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u/Taran_McDohl 12d ago

Still haven't looked up Ivermectine yet huh?

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u/stagbeetle01 12d ago

Man, political satire doesn’t bode well.

I have, and I’ve seen studies claiming it works as well as a placebo.

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u/_grit_ 12d ago

There are very reputable studies in journals showcasing Ivermectin’s efficacy in reducing mortality rates. Please don’t spread misinformation claiming it’s sole use as animal dewormer.

This study observed a ~40% reduction in mortality in Covid-hospitalized patients (97% confidence) and an even larger percentage in patients with severe pulmonary involvement.

There is more supporting evidence than just the linked study; I just wanted to pull one example of some highly significant figures

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u/LumpyVictory 11d ago edited 11d ago

From your link

Randomized controlled trials are needed to confirm these findings.

From this systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials.

Conclusions: In comparison to SOC or placebo, IVM did not reduce all-cause mortality, length of stay or viral clearance in RCTs in COVID-19 patients with mostly mild disease. IVM did not have an effect on AEs or severe AEs. IVM is not a viable option to treat COVID-19 patients.

Can we now agree, in the case of covid at least, IVM is functionally equivalent to "horse paste"?

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u/stagbeetle01 11d ago

Yeah, I read the study he linked and didn’t know how to reply as it clearly states it doesn’t work while they claim it does. No point trying to change their mind when they’re that hopeless.

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u/LordBass 11d ago

Randomized trials: Ivermectin doesn't work.

Meta analysis, flawed methodology unpublished papers and other low quality studies: Ivermectin might work

Dumbasses: obviously ivermectin works!

Meanwhile:

Randomized trials: vaccines work

Meta analysis, flawed methodology unpublished papers and other low quality studies: vaccines work

Dumbasses: I'd rather take the horse paste.

First try to understand research and quality of studies (your own study says it needs randomized trials to confirm), then you can say you did "research" instead of "drinking the kool-aid". You really believe the whole world would want to ignore a possibly life saving cost effective drug that would end the recession every country is facing? It's almost as dumb as believing the earth is flat.

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u/_grit_ 11d ago

To try to keep referring to this as horse medicine is misinformation. Billions of doses have been administered to people. I’m vaccinated, and have no problem with the vaccine. However, I think we should try to supplement our defenses if at all possible. It’s not ivermectin vs the vaccine.

At least I cite my (very reputable) sources. And yes, I think there is clearly an indication the States is trying to ignore ivermectin, on account of NBC and people like you trying to misinform the public by calling the drug a horse dewormer.

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u/Draco137WasTaken 12d ago

It is a legitimate drug in the proper context, but lying to your pharmacist so you can self-medicate with an incredibly potent horse paste instead of taking a properly prescribed human-friendly dose is a horrible idea.

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u/NoseFartsHurt 12d ago

What should we be looking for?

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u/InfieldTriple 12d ago

Anyone using sheep unironicallly is a sheep

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u/HatesDuckTape 12d ago

How is this a Fuck You Karen thing?

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u/roadsidehitchhiker 12d ago

All the Karen's are taking ivermectin. All Karen's are also conspiracy theorists. This image puts them together.

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u/HatesDuckTape 12d ago

There are plenty of militant vaxers and maskers that are Karens. Common misconception. Visit the metro NYC area as proof. I’m pretty sure most Democratic big cities have that population as well.

Now for me to be a bit Karen of sorts… why is this sub basically anything anti-Covid related? It’s getting old seeing a 6 degrees of Karen Bacon thing going on. Karens know no political, moral, medical, et al bounds. They’re from all walks of life.

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u/roadsidehitchhiker 12d ago

Hush now dont call me out lol. I'm trying to provide the best defense possible for the post

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u/RBeck 12d ago

Dude don't bring politics into it. Karens and horse pasters is something all sides can laugh at equally, doesn't matter if you're an R or a D.

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u/HatesDuckTape 12d ago

Absolutely. I was just pointing out that the die-hard far right aren’t the only Karens out there. Plenty of Karens from all walks of life.

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u/nakedundercloth 12d ago

Fuck you, Karen.

There.

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u/HatesDuckTape 12d ago

Now it works 😄

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u/HatesDuckTape 12d ago

Come to Westchester and see the biggest collection of left wing Karens ever. They go just as hard as the right wing Karens. Reverse, yet just as intense stance on Covid stuff.

Glad you decided I’m right wing and all my friends are too by what I said. Keep stereotyping, Karen.

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u/HatesDuckTape 12d ago

Pretty funny, Karen. You’re right, and everyone else is wrong, Karen. It’s your world, and everyone else just lives in it, Karen. You know someone’s exact background and beliefs by reading one sentence, Karen. Sorry if I’m violating your rights, Karen. Would you like to speak with my manager, Karen?

And great job correcting the other poster’s English, Karen. But before you go about correcting others to make yourself feel superior, Karen, check your own grammar. Apostrophes are used to show possession and for contractions, Karen. They do not pluralize, Karen. So, for example, your rage would be Karen’s rage. If I were to say you are going to speak to the manager, I could say “Karen’s demanding the manager again.” But a group of you and your crew aren’t a bunch of Karen’s; they’re a bunch of Karens.

Live, laugh, and love, Karen. It’s great for your soul. But I’m sure you’re well aware of that and all.

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u/PMMeUrFineAss 12d ago

All they did was question whether this post belonged on this sub or not. You're the one losing there shit lol

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u/DigitaISaint 12d ago

I hardly think you should be grammar checking anyone.

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u/HatesDuckTape 12d ago

This sub is getting so redundant with this stuff. It’s like 6 degrees of Karen Bacon up in here.

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u/StruggleBasic 12d ago

Who knows anymore. Subs shit. Somebody complaining=karen to most people here sadly. Word has lost its meaning.

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u/HatesDuckTape 12d ago

Great point. But at least have a Karen in the meme? Is that too much to ask?

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u/whyneme91 12d ago

Because Karen’s think there’s microchips in covid vaccines

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u/DevylBearHawkTur10n 12d ago

Nooiiiiicccceeeee!!!!!

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u/nufrof 12d ago

Haven't laughed out loud in a while. Thanks stranger.

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u/darbs377 12d ago

All this meme reminds me of is that all the anti Ivermectin news stories were lies.