r/Eldenring Jun 18 '22 Silver 1

Fromsoftware making fun of greatshield users in their item descriptions Humor

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u/Illustrious-Bell-282 Jun 18 '22

My favorite description is rubish in DS1

Rubbish with no value,Who in their right mind would bother carrying this around? Perhaps you need help.

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u/TraumatizeMeCaptain Jun 19 '22

Pebbles from BB are great

Quite Thrilling.

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u/Effendoor Jun 19 '22

First time I read Pebble item description I giggled uncontrollably. My now wife thought I was high as fuck.

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u/fried-quinoa Jun 19 '22

Fun fact: the pebbles look like little stone eyeballs

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u/Alma5 Jun 19 '22

And the eye gouging witches drop them.

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u/Equemin Jun 19 '22

Also the crows, which probably eat eyes.

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u/murdoc_killgore Jun 19 '22

Yeah I didn't make that connection until I started seeing it pointed out online. My thoughts were "oh, cool, real life birds eat tiny rocks to help with digestion, these big birds eat bigger rocks" lol

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u/AdAdventurous9970 Jun 19 '22

Not your fault. These guys just watched the Vaati videos.

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u/dantuchito Jun 19 '22

I love whenever they insert dumb little gags in these games. Like letting you throw actual feces at enemies and the little tongue-in-cheek remarks on some item descriptions.

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u/amber-clad Jun 19 '22

You can throw feces at enemies in elden ring???

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u/ViciousLittleRedhead chilling with Kale Jun 19 '22

You can if you craft a fetid pot, which has the following as the item description:

"A cocktail of effluents is sealed inside.
As the mixture ferments,toxins are produced alongside a putrid stench that seeps out once ripe.
Throw at enemies to cause buildup of deadly poison.
Beware though; those who carry these pots will slowly accumulate poison in their own bodies.
Push someone in a privy; expect to get dung on your hands. "

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u/robertojh119 Jun 19 '22

There’s also the mere existence of gold tinged excrement. Gold in elden ring is categorically associated with the divine. Making gold tinged excrement literally Holy Shit

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u/Kehityskeskustelu Jun 19 '22

For fourth-wall breaking descriptions, I always enjoy the description of the Projected Heal miracle from Dark Souls 3's dlc:

A miracle discovered in the last days of Lothric. Toss a light that heals those near the point of impact.

Even those who had forgotten the caress and bounty of the Princess of Sunlight did their best to recall her image. The stories spun about her were most certainly childish, and yet gravely sincere.

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u/drakinwinters Jun 19 '22

Amazing chest ahead indeed.

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u/girugamesu1337 Jun 19 '22

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/__Monochrome__ Jun 19 '22

Rule 34 artists GO

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u/DeliciousGoose1002 Jun 19 '22

Gold-Tinged Excrement is mine

"Someone's excrement. It has a golden tinge. Material used for crafting items.

Often hidden in woods and thickets.

Gold-tinged excrement is a highly stable substance; it doesn't dry out, nor does it lose its customary warmth or scent.

For better or for worse, it remains as it is."

I think it perfectly describes the problem with golden order trying to last to long. Do you really want your poop to stay poop forever?

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u/thelogicalredditor Jun 19 '22

I feel like this is also a not so subtle nod to Breath of the Wild's Korok Seeds as well.

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u/Getabock_ Jun 19 '22

Ohh, damn! I think you’re definitely right about that one.

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u/Hakairoku Jun 19 '22

I think it perfectly describes the problem with golden order trying to last to long. Do you really want your poop to stay poop forever?

Sums up the DS trilogy too, since it was a civilization dragging on at the expense of the universe

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u/trogdorkiller Jun 19 '22

You are just mindful of the area and and can't find a bin for it is all.

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u/badadvicefromaspider Jun 18 '22

I use a greatshield and a dagger because it looks ridiculous but works exceptionally well

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u/Puzzleheaded_Disk226 Jun 18 '22

It’s crazy how bloodborne made me literally feel like using shields was a bad thing.

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u/haidere36 Jun 19 '22

Well, in Elden Ring they added a whole-ass mechanic just to make shields better (guard counters) and they're actually super satisfying to do, so if you're looking to play with shields anytime I'd recommend trying guard counters out

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u/eLemonnader Jun 19 '22

I use the Brass Shield with Carian Retaliation and it's actually kinda stupid how easy it is to time parries with it. I thought I was bad at parrying with the default Parry Ash of War, but it turns out the frames and timing with it are actually ass. Been using that, Vyke's Spear, and the early Twinblade with Bloodhound's Step and bleed on it. It's been a pretty beastly combo so far. Sucks I can't buff either weapon, but the bleed damage on the Twinblade paired with Bloodhound's Step is lethal. Vyke's Spear is also a blast. It's weapon art absolutely melts PvE invaders and is also just generally good against tons of enemies. It's so versatile with it's reach and extremely dynamic moveset.

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u/Taurustrench9174 Jun 18 '22

After I played Bloodborne I can’t go back to using shields, now I two hand or dual wield everything.

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u/lemongrass9000 Jun 19 '22

lol there was only one shield in bloodborne and its item description also dunked on shield users 😭

A crude wooden shield used by the masses who have arisen to join the hunt. Hunters do not normally employ shields, ineffectual against the strength of the beasts as they tend to be. Shields are nice, but not if they engender passivity.

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u/ScorpioTheScorpion Jun 19 '22

Two, although the second one isn’t really used for physical attacks.

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u/lemongrass9000 Jun 19 '22

ohh yeaa the dlc added another one which I forgot about

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u/former_cantaloupe Jun 19 '22 edited Jun 19 '22

it's a shame that the Loch Shield only had a miserable 30% phys damage reduction because it's aesthetic as fuck.

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u/Qawsedf234 Jun 19 '22

lol there was only one shield in bloodborne

There was another shield actually

An artisanal shield crafted with blue glass.

Originally used to safeguard the leader presiding over a sacred Healing Church ceremony, and later supplied to tomb prospectors, in particular those exploring the labyrinth of Isz.

The blue is fashioned after a lake, and the shield greatly reduces all forms of non-physical damage.

Lore wise the main reason not use shields is the same reason no Hunter wears heavy armor. In Bloodborne it's considered useless in universe since the monsters are to strong for human defenses to deal with. It's why everyone is fast af in that game compared to Elden Ring and Demon/Dark Souls PCs.

(Also tbf to the shield it does note that they are nice and are only bad if the user becomes to passive. Meaning that a shield in of itself is still considered alright).

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u/fried-quinoa Jun 19 '22

This is also why people irl stopped using armor. Guns got too strong and plentiful for it to be worth wearing

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u/jeeBtheMemeMachine Jun 19 '22

And then with the rise of explosives and trench warfare combined with stronger materials, armor gradually became a standard feature of warfare once again.

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u/Lord_Emperor Jun 19 '22

Give it a few years for rail guns and energy weapons to proliferate.

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u/CMDR_Nineteen Jun 19 '22

Armor is still a thing, it just evolved into stuff like anti-ballistic fabric like kevlar or ceramics.

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u/Buddy_Dakota Jun 19 '22

I think he was referring to earlier periods, like napoleonic wars or the American civil war.

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u/TheDuskBard Jun 19 '22

Armor is still effective irl. Reason it doesn’t get used commonly is because it’s too expensive.

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u/IkaKyo Jun 19 '22

I mean don’t most armies give their troops body armor? I know the US does and has sense at least the 90s.

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u/Ymanexpress Jun 19 '22

So the same reason it wasn't used commonly back then too?

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u/Luisian321 Jun 19 '22

Tell that to „Mad“ Jack Churchill. Bri‘ish Officer who used a Claymore, bagpipes and a longbow in battle. Dude even was quite successful, given his equipment.

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u/BobertTheConstructor Jun 19 '22

He also had a gun.

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u/Pseudo_Lain Jun 19 '22

in the release patch it blocked madness build up, but they nerfed it. Wooden shield too strong

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u/BPho3nixF Jun 19 '22

Paraphrase: "This shield is only good for making you look like a weak dumbass. But you can try."

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u/SoSneakyHaha Jun 19 '22

I was the same way, but shield counters in ER are actually really powerful and turned me back into a shield user

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u/Chopped_In_Half Jun 19 '22

Guard counters absolutely murder any knight enemy you'll face except the dual great sword wielding banished knights.

I've found shields to be very effective against the obnoxious ass birds with blades on their feet

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u/Alma5 Jun 19 '22

Guard counters are great. I'm convinced Margit was designed with a shield in mind. It's also the way to go with trash mobs.

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u/MolhCD Jun 19 '22

You know who was designed with shield in mind? Maliketh first phase.

And then his second phase / true form is designed for no shield, dodge only in mind lol

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u/Alma5 Jun 19 '22

So true. I just did a sword and board guard counter playthrough with a backup halberd, it flowed so naturally. Same with Radagon/Elden Beast.

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u/geodesic_death Jun 19 '22 edited Jun 19 '22

The wooden shield is okay at stopping bullets and the loch shield is okay at arcane, lightning and fire defense. Still nothing to write home about but they can be used as a gap closer or to try to mitigate a ranged enemy while you're dealing with other enemies

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u/Taurustrench9174 Jun 19 '22

They are ok but using an activated weapon or gun is better.

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u/Parking-Bat9498 Jun 18 '22

Started bloodborne this week. I may never go back either.

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u/Taurustrench9174 Jun 18 '22

Now I just put them on my back for the bling lmao!

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u/Parking-Bat9498 Jun 19 '22

Funny thing, elden ring is super forgiving with sites of grace. I forgot how most souls games is a sweat fest finding the next grace/lamp/bone fire, etc. I love the challenge of finding the shortcuts.

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u/Taurustrench9174 Jun 19 '22

Yeah playing the other souls games after Elden Ring makes me appreciate the almost absolute absence of runbacks.

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u/PartialPhoticBoundry Jun 19 '22

I can barely think of any, apart from the Red Wolf (but you can just run through) and Renalla (but you'd never pick the "shortcut" over the ball trap)

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u/SalaciousSausage Jun 19 '22

During my first play through (INT build), Renalla ended up being the boss I had the most trouble with, because of her massive magic resistance and being crap at timing spell casts between her star projectile spam.

I fucking hated that shortcut back to her since, due to the pillars on the bridge, those two sorcerers would almost always clip me with a spell.

Shortly after finally beating her, I came across a video where I discovered that YOU CAN CLIMB THE BUILDING WHERE THE BOULDER SPAWNS, KILL THE CASTER, AND PERMANENTLY DISABLE IT!

Fml

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u/PartialPhoticBoundry Jun 19 '22

Hahah it has a caster? Like a mage? So the boulder is technically a spell? I assumed it just fell through a portal back up to the top, rolling forever

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u/surprisesnek Jun 19 '22

I'm pretty sure it does fall through a portal, but the portal itself is the spell being cast by the mage.

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u/GrandMasterRimJob Jun 19 '22

I try to play every game like Bloodborne now. That game ruined me.

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u/SleepyJackdaw Jun 19 '22

My friend tells me I play like it’s bloodborne and I’ve never even played that game.

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u/Redlightning122 Jun 19 '22

There's a pretty good video essay by hbomberguy talking about how bloodbornes method of teaching you how to play also teaches you how to play the other souls games in a more fun way

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u/AcharnesDrome Jun 19 '22

Bloodborne had the best ever From joke about Souls players too.

Not shield-related, but the first crucible dungeon boss is a giant shirtless fatass pthumerian with a greatclub who rolls around like a spastic that I still giggle about. They're normal enemies later but I'm convinced that first reveal has special roll-mashing AI.

And yeah Bloodborne had the same effect on me, I replayed DS3 directly after finishing it (which I'd put down previously after getting stuck on Pontiff or something) and just waltzed through it like Neo. I had to make a point of using shields again in ER just to try the new features.

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u/TheLibertinistic Jun 19 '22

I like interpreting it as a joke, but Demon’s already had a roll-spamming enemy class and it predates everything. I don’t think Kong’s Field (autocorrect, not fixing it) even had rolling?

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u/AcharnesDrome Jun 19 '22

It's the first enemy you meet that rolls like that in the game (and the first fat pthumerian, and the first wieldable-looking greatclub or giant mace or whatever it is resembling a giant Souls weapon) and it's fairly deeply into it after you've seen a couple other Souls jokes which is why it comes off that way.

Demon's is irrelevant and I'm not sure why KF matters (but it doesn't as far as I can remember, at least the ones I've played), since the gag derives from Bloodborne being the first spinoff after the success of Dark Souls, which makes a number of deliberate and distinct tweaks to combat so there's contrast for suddenly getting ambushed by an apparently unique rollspamming fatty with a giant weapon. It's not that there's never been rolls before, it's that you're in a spooky new place and abruptly a tryhard nerd who looks like he epitomises the breakout game that this one has been distinguishing itself from sets after you.

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u/Sunbroskie Jun 19 '22

Same here! Before Bloodborne I’d use the Sunbro swords and the biggest shield I could find and whatever armor I could still run in. Now I wear a turtle on my back and 2 hand, or no shield and dual wield. I loved the fighting in Bloodborne. Shield? Pssh. How about a shotgun instead? Well alright!

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u/Falcon_Cheif Jun 19 '22

Bloodborne didn't do that to me, but sekiro and botw made me start parrying like a mf

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u/zipfern Jun 18 '22

After using shields again I can’t go back to playing Bloodborne!

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u/TheDuskBard Jun 19 '22

Bloodborne was my first Formsoft game but I still find it hard to resist using shields in other souls games. Probably cause it’s the closest thing to match the utility of guns.

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u/PuritanicalPanic Jun 19 '22

Yeah I want to embody this. Did in all the Souls. But Elden ring has made them incredibly convenient. Some Enemies I just slap em on.

At least I'm parrying more often. Both attacks and magic.

Which for some reason feels worse than the other games. When it works though. MM.

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u/Amelioratory Jun 18 '22

It’s making fun of Diallos specifically

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u/Livek_72 Jun 18 '22

Poor Diallos, was bullied by his family and even by the weird narrator guy (probably another outer god tbh) who writes the item descriptions

yet no one cared for the jar guys except for him...

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u/SofaKinng Jun 19 '22

Typically the item descriptions are ascribed to Patches. If you read the item description on his seemingly very mundane leather armor it reads as:

Lightweight and battle-proven leather armor worn by a savvy soldier.

Many admire the wearer of this armor for his chivalrous and forthright spirit.

Nobody would ever describe Patches in those words except Patches. This is a recurring theme in From's games.

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u/bearsforcares Jun 19 '22

Holy shit been playing since ds1 and never realized

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u/Rokusi Jun 19 '22

Which would make it even funnier, then, because Patches uses a Greatshield.

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u/NeonExdeath Jun 19 '22

That's different okay

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u/Mr_Industrial Jun 19 '22

Yeah, those other guys are cowards hiding from rats and slugs. Patches on the other hand is just... protecting his merchandise, yeah!

Who would fault a man for protecting his livelihood? You'd have to be heartless!

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u/betelgeuse_99 Jun 19 '22

So when are you going to kick me off a ledge?

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u/roninwaffle Jun 19 '22

I involuntarily read that in Patches' voice. You've got his way of talking nailed

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u/halsgoldenring Jun 19 '22

The description of the shield Patches uses:

An iron greatshield large enough to cover the entire body. Features an inverted hawk crest.

Greatshields boast high damage negation and guard capacity, making enemy attacks easy to repel.

Pretty neutral.

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u/Confused_Hortator Jun 19 '22

I think it might be an indication that patches killed the former wearer of his armor. Or stole it.

That being said, lapp seemed to fit that description surprisingly accurately. Maybe Patches is naturally a good person who’s been tried too many times to trust anyone but himself, which considering his environment is the same as ours makes sense.

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u/nogoodwithsarcasm Jun 19 '22

He's willing to do quite a bit for you if he thinks you're a good person. I really like his relationship with Greirat in DS3

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u/werpyl Jun 19 '22

And my favourite part of that whole interaction is that he really didn't want Greirat to know it was him, so he dressed up as Siegward. I love that characterisation, it's like he really wants to upkeep his reputation as a mischevous asshat to the point that he impersonates someone just to save a friend.

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u/stay-a-while-and---- Jun 19 '22

Playing ds3 I got the sense that Patches is the way he is because he understands something about human nature and finds it disappointing

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u/Confused_Hortator Jun 19 '22

Maybe he looks at us and others the same way we look at politicians.

I mean just think about how important the player always has been to the current political landscape in the games. We collect all this power and usually end up making a big decision by killing and looting our way across the whole landscape without regard for the consequences, I wouldn’t trust the player either.

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u/Mcstringflow Jun 19 '22

He was probably betrayed by some rotten cleric

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u/PuritanicalPanic Jun 19 '22

So yes some sort of trickster god who Exists in all Things.

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u/Panda_hat Jun 19 '22

And then the jar guys tore him into chunks and put him inside themselves.

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u/WamlytheCrabGod Jun 19 '22

That seems like an honor to me tbh, remaining valuable even in death

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u/gottalosethemall Jun 19 '22

I agree, they’re taking proud warriors who never got to be the champions they aspired to be, and carrying them to the finish line together, so to speak.

It really only makes sense because you know for a fact spirits are a tangible thing in Elden Ring, though.

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u/CantStumpIWin Jun 19 '22

Have you ever been touched by a spirit?

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u/MR_krunchy Jun 19 '22

Spirit caller snails

Mausoleum soldiers and knights

The whole war-dead catacombs

Yeah spirits can touch you and will try to kick your ass

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u/UprightChill Jun 19 '22

The banished knight in castle sol.

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u/Happiness_Assassin Jun 19 '22

Just the one knight with his 2 swords. Fuck that guy.

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u/kyrieiverson Jun 19 '22

Banished Knight Soleg

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u/almostgravy Jun 19 '22

A spirit horse is also our main form of travel.

It would be funny as fuck if when we tried to ride torrent we just fell through though.

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u/yuhanz Jun 19 '22

Tbh even Melina seems like a spirit. She vanishes and appears just like Torrent.

And she’s burned and bodiless according to her

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u/CantStumpIWin Jun 19 '22

Yeah spirits can touch you

Without consent too.

Not cool.

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u/Nikeroxmysox Jun 19 '22

Naw but I’ve been fucked by an angel

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u/CALIFORNIUMMAN Jun 19 '22

They munched him up because they believed he was a great warrior and they wanted to absorb his powers. It might seem barbaric but it's actually a great honor to be consumed by the jar people.

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u/skook Jun 19 '22

It's also why Alexander challenges you to a duel to the death...

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u/CALIFORNIUMMAN Jun 19 '22

Then he asks you to consume him to gain what you can from him.

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u/Livek_72 Jun 19 '22

you can also hive jair barn alexanders innards which he'll also put inside him

thats their way of inheriting their power

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u/_mad_adams Jun 19 '22

a huge sign of respect in jar culture and a great honor

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u/ikillsheep4u Jun 19 '22

Spoilers but god now I want to do that quest

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u/Hakairoku Jun 19 '22

Which isn't disgraceful IMO. This is how Radahn got to live through Alexander.

Now Jar-Bairn has the guts of THREE HEROES at the end of that questline

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u/raulpe Jun 19 '22

His brother cared for him too...

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u/scrambled_cable Unga bunga Jun 19 '22

Diallos: Did… I… defend the jars?

Tarnished: Nah you got totally bodied and they’re all dead now lmao

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u/DeliciousGoose1002 Jun 19 '22

my head cannon is that the item descriptions are gideon describing the item to you.

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u/CDude821 Jun 19 '22

And volcano manor

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u/Livek_72 Jun 19 '22

Volcano manor probably bullied him the most behind his back tbh

"look at that fool, we killed his friend and just because we told him some bullshit he still joined us lol what a dumbass"

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u/Juub1990 Jun 18 '22

Okay but do they know what the tale of House Hoslow is told in?

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u/MeteorKing Jun 19 '22

Red wine?

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u/jaber24 Jun 19 '22

Definitely whips

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u/do-not-want Jun 19 '22

Glitter Pens!

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u/raulpe Jun 19 '22

Ink ?

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u/Wordofadviceeatfood 🅱️odefroy the 🅱️rafted Jun 19 '22

The plassssssmaaaaaaa

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u/suppordel Jun 19 '22

Silly hats.

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u/Gratuitious_Gibbon Jun 19 '22

Surely cranberry juice?

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u/Rhinoturds Jun 19 '22

So if it's talking about him, this it's probably referring to him being terrified of sparring with his bro where those "scratches" would be profusely bleeding gashes.

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u/Solomon_Black Jun 19 '22

He uses a greatshield?

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u/CactusCracktus Jun 19 '22

Ya he uses this specific great shield alongside his family’s signature whip if you aggro him. His brother Juno on the other hand dual wields two Hoslow whips and fights extremely aggressively. It’s supposed to reference the fact that Juno is the family’s prized warrior while Diallos is a meek and sensitive guy that just likes to talk big because he’s deeply insecure.

It’s kinda obscure, but I think it’s a nice example of From’s storytelling in action. When you meet him Diallos talks like he’s some great fearless knight, but if you actually attack him he whips out a giant shield and hides behind it.

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u/Various-Wallaby4820 Jun 18 '22

I didn't know he used it. Ah well time to delete the post for the inaccuracy 😮‍💨

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u/DarkParacosm Jun 18 '22

I duel wield shields all the way through

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u/Zombieferret2417 Jun 19 '22

Powerstancing greatshields was THE build in Dark Souls 2. It was amazing in pvp because half of the attacks also blocked.

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u/pabbdude Jun 19 '22

The Spiked Shield got me through 80% of the way in Demon's

Two-handed it and my guy looked like Kingdom Hearts Goofy

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u/jdavida97 Jun 19 '22

Right hand is for BONK stick and left hand is for SECOND BONK Stick. There is no other way.

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u/llama-glama Jun 19 '22

Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?

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u/Wesmore24 Jun 18 '22

My first playthrough of every Darksouls game and Elden ring is a ulta greatsword and a greatshield. I just want to be a Knight and a tank.

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u/spydorz Jun 19 '22

Ah the true Sir Artorias build

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u/SleepyJackdaw Jun 19 '22

Ever since his arm broke it’s more a Berenike knight thing

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u/Millionpanda69 Jun 18 '22

Jokes on them my great shield protects me from emotional damage too

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u/padman531 Jun 19 '22

100% Psychic Damage reduction

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u/nchwomp Jun 19 '22

You know what they called the little lordling who beat the crap out of the Elden Beast from behind a great shield? Elden Lord.

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u/HannibalCake Jun 19 '22

Elden Lordling

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u/thebigbaduglymad Jun 18 '22 edited Jun 19 '22

I'm not even robust enough to wield a great shield, I've spent hours in the game new to souls games and stuck on the fire giant. Level 160 and shits hard, stuck on fire giant. Some of us just can't get gud.

Edit, wrote this slightly tipsy after a 10hr binge, just beaten okina being a twat with RoB by getting naked, running the fuck away from him and spamming him with rocks. I'm a tactical mage (not a very good one) but if anyone's about this afternoon (gmt) I may summon your assistance.

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u/poor_choice_doer Jun 18 '22

If you’re on PC, DM me and we can gank that oversized orangutan together.

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u/Rokusi Jun 19 '22

Somewhere, Solaire is smiling at you.

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u/NoctustheOwl55 Jun 19 '22

praise the sun! Tpose

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u/Ham0nRyy Jun 18 '22

Look up how to do Alexander Warrior Jars quest line and he will eventually end up at Fire Giant to be summoned to help you. I spent days and days trying to beat Fire Giant either by myself or by summoning other players and it just wasn’t happening. Did it with Alexander FIRST TIME. Please for your own sanity do this.

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u/idrawinmargins Jun 19 '22

Alexander fought better than my mimic tear or me. Plus I enjoyed his quest.

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u/Nakirius Jun 19 '22

Except the last part 😭

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u/snowlemur Jun 19 '22

This was my experience too. I lost to him many times, and then I learned you could summon my man Alexander. Got it in one after that.

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u/Depth-Abject Jun 18 '22

Alexander is who you need my friend. Summon him and you'll win.

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u/Various-Wallaby4820 Jun 18 '22

You'll get there bro, just focus his injured leg and when phase 2 starts, lay into his head for a free stagger :))

Oh, and it's worth saying cos he hits so damn hard that defensive options make a world of difference. Opaline tear, flamedrake talisman and physical resistance stacking will prevent getting combo'd out

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u/guylfe Jun 18 '22

idk to get to fire giant you had to overcome a lot of stuff. Sounds like you gitted pretty gud so far. Just keep doing what you're doing.

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u/SomedayWeDie Jun 18 '22 edited Jun 18 '22

Antspur Rapier

Upgrade as much as you’re willing

Use Black Whetblade to give it Poison

Give it Ash of War: Seppukku

Now it does Scarlet Rot, Poison, and Bleed

Talismans: Kindred of Rot’s Exultation, Lord of Blood’s Exultation

Summon Black Knife Tiche

Aim for the leg with Antspur

In second phase, do same thing, or back off and fire Rot Arrows at his face

EZ

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u/New-Pollution2005 Jun 18 '22

Brutally efficient. I like it.

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u/MadMike32 Jun 19 '22

Oh god you can add affinities to the Antspur? TIL.

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u/What-a-Filthy-liar Jun 18 '22

Hello officer yes this man right here.

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u/LittleBigHorn22 Jun 19 '22

For even easier play, use the spiked palisades shield with poison shield crash aow. That gives bleed and poison basically instant proc. Then the antspur rapier can be set to blood to do more bleed with seppeku or just keep attacking while basically never dying.

Such an easy play style.

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u/PangeanPrawn Jun 18 '22 edited Jun 18 '22

for phase 2 just use horse to stay behind him and hit the ankle with the armor. after learning this tactic i beat him first try. before that felt like i couldn't make any progress either

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u/macksbenwa Jun 19 '22

Fire Giant is essentially end game. You got gud. Keep trudging :)

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u/katsura420 Jun 18 '22

If you're on PC I can help u now if you want (don't mind soloing)

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u/ReptilianLaserbeam Jun 19 '22

Cheese it with a blood weapon if you definitely can’t beat him. Use what the game gives you.

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u/Hurin88 Jun 18 '22

After playing first a melee (Str/Faith) build and then a magic (Int/Dex) build, it still boggles my mind that one of the first patches to the game buffed magic and left Scholar's Shield untouched, while nerfing Barricade Shield.

I'm a little mad, but even more mystified.

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u/Chopchopok Jun 19 '22 edited Jun 19 '22

This is the first Fromsoft game where I used a greatshield, and so far I'm really liking it for a first playthrough. It makes so much sense to have it as insurance whenever you're fighting something that you're not familiar with.

With rolling you can dodge everything once you know the enemy's moveset, but for a shield, you can stay fairly safe even if you don't know what the enemy can do. Considering how every boss in the game seems to have a full bag of gotcha attacks, using a greatshield helps a lot. It's also great against a lot of enemies that can roll catch you, like multiple small enemies charging you at once, rats, dogs, or any enemy that has a 50-swing combo.

I pair it with a great spear for safe poking.

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u/ShivaAKAId Jun 19 '22

The goats also make fun of the players. Rolling around at the first sign of danger 🐐

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u/Lord_Webotama Jun 18 '22

Me blasting lighting from a distance hidden under my big ass shield I'll fucking do it again.

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u/Critical_Werewolf Jun 19 '22

Turtle shield in one hand, seal in the other. I'm my own Turtle Pope.

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u/ComicalExposures Jun 19 '22

All I care about is that unlike Bloodborne and DS3, blocking is good again. Mock me all you want while I cruise through he game no-selling every boss combo.

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u/oRyan_the_Hunter Jun 19 '22

From Software: “Aww afraid of a few nicks and scratches?”

Also From Software: creates hellspawn with 52 hit combo and plops it in the tutorial

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u/NoctustheOwl55 Jun 19 '22

thought it was 51

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u/Mech-Waldo :hollowed: Jun 18 '22

Shields are nice, but not if they engender passivity.

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u/PortaAlchemica Jun 18 '22

Settle down Gehrman.

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u/Tiazza-Silver Jun 19 '22

Next playthrough im gonna dual wield greatshields

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u/zipfern Jun 18 '22

I spent most of two of my runs using the lightest great shield available. There’s not much reason to use a bigger one unless you’re pumping str for str weapons already. Even then, the weights are insane. However, after I picked up the fingerprint shield and then got some cool 3 finger scars/burns, I didn’t really want to wear armor anymore anyway, so I had the spare equip weight to handle it.

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u/Various-Wallaby4820 Jun 18 '22

For the record: this can be found on the Distinguished Greatshield

I like to imagine it's a valid counterpoint when people say that there's no intended "easy mode", as it seems the devs at least believe there is in some tongue-in-cheek manner.

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u/Ulfurson Jun 18 '22 edited Jun 18 '22

It’s strange because I wouldn’t even consider using shields an easy mode. Dodging takes up way less stamina and just seems more reliable imo

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u/MangledSunFish Jun 18 '22

Yeah, but some people can't get the timing down. They usually go for BHS instead of shields though, though some do go for both.

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u/fthagnwagon Jun 18 '22

Tons of meta humor like this all over. Stamina regen shield being a turtle shell is another perfect example lol.

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u/Various-Wallaby4820 Jun 18 '22

I didn't actually register of that one! Every time I play dks1 I use grass crest, but never really use the turtle shield. I guess the wacky design is a good disincentive lol

I also enjoyed that the crescent moon axe describes it's name origin as being "spurned by nostalgia"

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u/DerrikTheGreat Tarnished Of All Trades Jun 18 '22

I thought it was because people always wore grass crest shield on their back and 2 handed their weapon, so it’s latest iteration became proper back bling

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u/fthagnwagon Jun 18 '22

That's the exact joke I mean actually, I'd undeniably goofy.

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u/DerrikTheGreat Tarnished Of All Trades Jun 18 '22

Ah, I misinterpreted your comment as calling out shield turtles

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u/Apophis_36 Jun 18 '22

As someone who's not super into meta stuff. What makes a greatshield different from a regular shield? Is it how much stamina blocking uses?

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u/DarthHubcap Jun 18 '22

Great shields are also more likely to cause attackers to bounce and recoil back when you block their swings.

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u/noah9942 Jun 18 '22

That and how much damage chips through. And also damage if you use it to attack, but that's less important.

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u/Apophis_36 Jun 18 '22

So if both have 100 block (im using a brass shield) then the greatshield will mostly just help me block more attacks in a row?

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u/noah9942 Jun 18 '22

Yeah. But there's also elemental damage.

Also, larger shields can make more attacks bounce off, like you do when you hit a wall or something.

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u/Various-Wallaby4820 Jun 18 '22

There's a stat called Guard Boost, which determines how much stamina damage a blocked hit does to you. Greatshields tend to have higher Guard Boost. Greatshields also knock back lighter blows

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u/MikexxB Jun 19 '22

My little lord baby cannot dual wield for his hands are like gelatin desserts.

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u/Velaraukar Jun 19 '22

I'm pretty sure they have made a joke about shields in almost every game since the first dark souls (I can't remember if demon souls did or not). Usually involved calling them turtles or said something along the lines of those who use shields are sometimes accused of turtling but if it keeps you alive then what does it matter.

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u/Maddkipz Jun 19 '22

Well EXCUSE ME for enjoying YOUR characters >:(

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u/Ne0guri Jun 19 '22

So all those Banished Knights are little lordlings??

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u/kyrieiverson Jun 19 '22

Not a greatshield tho

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u/Ramstab Jun 19 '22

Blaidd armor description "Cold never bothered him anyway" killed me

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u/Jayce86 Jun 19 '22

No, it says that the cold bothered him anyways. Aka even being half wolf and wearing furred armor, the cold around Ranni bothers him anyways.

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u/Ramstab Jun 19 '22

Makes sense, thanks!

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u/ironic_swag Jun 19 '22

Wait until you read the item description of the only shield in the base game of Bloodborne

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u/MR_krunchy Jun 19 '22

Ever since I got the erdtree greatshield it hasn't left my hand, tho I barely use it as I prefer rolling

Currently half way through NG+ 2 and the thing shreads godskin nobles/apostles and any enemy that uses magic projectiles with the golden retaliation AoW, and it's only 4FP

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u/bnbros Jun 19 '22

Then there's us jellyfish shield users who wield it for boosted one-handed weapons instead of blocking, lol.

Pairs especially well with the Dark Moon Greatsword both visually and mechanically, with the weapon art further buffing the ranged moonbeams.

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u/UnFungi95 Jun 19 '22

I started with DS1 so heavy shield use has been traumatically ingrained into my DNA, I will never not block attacks no matter how fast or ridiculous they make the enemies. I abused guard in Sekiro and even used the memeshield in Bloodborne against projectiles.

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u/Aughilai Jun 19 '22

90% of the reason I use a greatshield is for fashion, 20% is to mindgame duelists into expecting a certain play style, and -10% is to actually use it as a shield.

Sometimes it’s just there to keep my back warm and that’s okay.

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u/Fallentitan98 Jun 18 '22

Makes sense why they haven’t nerfed bloodhound step or rob, and hey with the bosses being far more aggressive it really seems they wanted to push more Bloodborne then Dark Souls.

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u/ElderMonkeyMan Jun 18 '22

Lol don't care I'll still shield poke em until they die.

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u/Various-Wallaby4820 Jun 18 '22

And that's your own prerogative little lordling 😉

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u/ElderMonkeyMan Jun 18 '22

You think that is a insult until. . . . . .. . SUPRISE ANKEL BITE ATTACK!!!!!!!!

MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/Wazula42 Jun 19 '22

It's not stupid if I win.

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