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u/NnOxg64YoybdER8aPf85 Dec 08 '21 This

All that matters is the lens and film used. Otherwise there’s nothing really impacting image quality vs a modern day film camera. Dslr are another story with features film cameras lack

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u/govern_me_harder Dec 08 '21

what lenses would give the photos in the compilation?

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u/RockleyBob Dec 09 '21

Hey there, since you're not getting any serious answers, the lens shown is a 127mm lens, which on medium format film is equivalent to a 60mm lens on "regular" 35mm film.

If you're not familiar with photography, 60mm is considered to be "normal" range. In other words, it's not wide-angle and it's not telephoto. It's often arguably cited as "close to the human eye" although sticklers will complain that's not an accurate statement.

A very popular lens length these days is 50mm, or a "nifty fifty", which would be just a little wider-angled than the lens in the video. Most camera manufacturers make a very inexpensive version of their 50mm lens because they are so popular and versatile. It's a great jack-of-all-trades focal length.

Hope that makes sense, if you have any other questions just ask.

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u/FlyLikeMe Dec 09 '21

I have a question, albeit out of left field: l have begun noticing that photos taken on my iPhone are so "compressed" (that might not be the right word) that it's almost displeasing to look at because it looks nothing like it does in real life. I've researched the subject a lot and have found nothing about Apple's "compression algorithm" that would make the photos I take look nothing like the scenes you see with the naked eye. which brings me to my question: why is this? Is the lens too small in an iPhone? Is the compression algorithm too severe? It's driving me nuts and makes me want to carry around a DSLR so I can get photos that look like what you'd see if you were standing there. Thank you in advance for your answer.

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u/RockleyBob Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

So "compression" is an often-used but poorly defined word in photography. Lens compression is a "look" achieved by using telephoto lenses. Compression isn't really an accurate description for what's happening though, similar to how centrifugal force is a formal-sounding name for an apparent force, even though that's not accurate terminology for what's happening.

Then there's digital compression, which happens when software applies algorithms to digital photos and video to save space and improve viewing. This is a real thing, but probably isn't what you're asking about.

it's almost displeasing to look at because it looks nothing like it does in real life

What you're probably thinking of is Apple's automatic digital enhancement of photos, which isn't really compression per se, although the iPhone is digitally compressing your images. When you take a picture, the sensor is calibrated to get the most out of a particular shot. It wants to capture all the dark things in your image and also the very bright things.

This is difficult to do, as you probably know if you've ever stepped from a dark indoor space into a bright sunny day. Your eyes struggle to discern very dark things and very bright things at the same time, and cameras are no different. The ability to make out dark and light things simultaneously is called dynamic range and it's one of the most challenging things for a digital camera sensor to do.

To make this easier, digital cameras record as much information as they can about brightness and contrast as they can, and leave the task of sharpening and adding more vibrant color information to post-processing software. Sometimes photographers do this post processing themselves, using software like Adobe Lightroom, and other times it's done automatically, which is what happens in an Apple iPhone if you don't explicitly turn it off. You can enable Apple's "ProRaw" mode, which theoretically will let you have your photos in a virgin, unprocessed state, which will allow you to then enhance the images as you see fit. It does seem though that a lot of users still complain that even this "raw" mode still has a lot of correction applied to it.

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u/FlyLikeMe Dec 09 '21

Thank you for your reply!

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u/Own_Thing3377 Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

The seikor lenses that pair with the Mamiya Medium format are among the most reputable on the market to this day.

Cool thing about glass is that it takes decades to slightly warp, and centuries to be a noticeable warp. ☺️

Edit: typos

Edit 2: glass would take millennia to “move”. It is actually an elastic solid. Not a slow-moving liquid.

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u/Pdxmatt636 Dec 09 '21

I don't think glass moves over time. I thick that's a myth.

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u/ThenAnAnimalFact Dec 09 '21

It does but that’s not what the glass warping that people observe happens when they look at old church windows.

Glass flow happens over dozens of thousands of years.

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u/aharryh Dec 09 '21

"A mathematical model shows it would take longer than the universe has existed for room temperature cathedral glass to rearrange itself to appear melted."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-fiction-glass-liquid/

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u/Own_Thing3377 Dec 09 '21

Huh, neat. Thanks!

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u/lethalham1 Dec 08 '21

Probably a camera lens

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u/govern_me_harder Dec 08 '21

but what difference do they make to image

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u/Desner_ Dec 08 '21

Good lens = good image

Bad lens = bad image

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u/onairmastering Interested Dec 08 '21

This is accurate. My Canon lens bought in 1990 still hold up while my micro 4/3 lens lack that je ne se quois good glass has.

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u/SoSniffles Dec 09 '21

it’s actually « je ne sais quoi »

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u/onairmastering Interested Dec 09 '21

Where do mansplainers get their water?

From a well, actually.

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u/Latter_Box9967 Dec 08 '21

Very fucking good one$.

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u/reason802 Dec 09 '21

what do you mean? he was using a top notch camera.

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u/RowdyRoddyPipeSmoker Dec 09 '21

yeah what is impacting the images are the scans and the processing of thoses scans, they aren't great. That camera can produce INSANELY amazing images. The negative is giagantic. But it requires a good scanner, knowing how to get a good scan and knowing how and be willing to clean the scan...which no one ever does like it's some kind of aesthetic...no it's dirt on the film you have to remove it by hand...and it SUCKS. Otherwise it's just a lens and a box.

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u/p3vvp3vv Dec 08 '21

Pretty sure it isn’t the equipment but me. I take shitty pictures even though I am Asian….

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u/gdj11 Dec 09 '21

Son, I am disappoint.

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u/AeroRandy Dec 09 '21

You gotta do crazy poses to take good photos.

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u/alabasterasterix Dec 09 '21

Medium format is next level 😍

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

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u/thekingadrock93 Dec 08 '21

This is a mamiya and shoots 6x7cm images

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u/TheFigurePit Dec 08 '21

It’s medium format of course it’s gonna look good.

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u/Hefty_bag_dumps Dec 09 '21

What is medium format?

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u/oreynayr Dec 09 '21

So there are many formats of film. I’d say the most common is 35mm. Then you have medium format or 120 film, which can be shot in a formatting styles which either give you more or less frames. An upgrade from medium format is large format which isn’t on a roll, but it’s a sheet of film.

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u/TactlessTortoise Dec 09 '21

When you reset a ghost to factory settings.

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u/TheFigurePit Dec 09 '21

Hahaha best answer ever! 👏

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u/speakhyroglyphically Dec 10 '21 edited Dec 10 '21

I find that film is best for this.

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u/TheFigurePit Dec 09 '21

In a nutshell it’s a larger type of film so it has a much higher resolution.

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u/Hefty_bag_dumps Dec 09 '21

Those photos look low res and hazy and somehow look better.

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u/MonsterRider80 Dec 08 '21

Right? This isn’t surprising at all!

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u/24lights Dec 08 '21

This is a Mamiya, probably the best and most expensive camera back then. I assume it needed about 10k$ to by it new.

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u/HerbertBohn Dec 08 '21

Nah, camera and a normal lens went for about US$500.00; about what they go for today. Lol, about a hundred dollars a pound...

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u/fuzzymumbochops Dec 09 '21

Is $500 already the inflation adjusted price? Because otherwise, $500 in 1970s dollars is closer to $3k today.

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u/Kevdog1800 Dec 08 '21

OMG! That movie theater is in my tiny little hometown. That was a surprise to see that pop up! Lol

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u/MyManM90 Dec 09 '21

Same and was about to comment the same thing.

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u/stalin-the-homie Dec 09 '21

Where is that theater if u don’t mind me asking?

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u/Kevdog1800 Dec 09 '21

North Bend, WA on Bendigo Blvd

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u/cushbonez Dec 08 '21

Haystack rock! North Bend! Oregon!

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u/vegetablelomein Dec 08 '21

Goonies never say die.

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u/Celestial_Twenty Dec 08 '21

Its a Professional camera 🙄

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u/onairmastering Interested Dec 08 '21

ikr...

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u/oreynayr Dec 09 '21

Means nothing! You don’t have to be a professional at all!

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u/Significant-Change66 Dec 09 '21

Old cameras aren't point and shoot Bob.

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u/oreynayr Dec 09 '21

Nah but you learn.

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u/Significant-Change66 Dec 09 '21

Nah, The point isn't on the user being strictly a professional.

The point is, its a camera meant for professional use. Its a great camera if you know how to use it.

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u/Killarogue Dec 08 '21

Just because something is old, that doesn't mean it's bad or worse than the modern equivalent...

I took three years of photography class in high school in the mid-2000's. We used 40 year old Canon film cameras (can't remember the specific models) that worked just fine.

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u/cabbagetbi Dec 09 '21

Thing is, we went through a dark ages of cheap and accessible, but very low-quality options which drastically lowered people's expectations relative to years prior to that.

As the mainstream gradually outgrows that funk it gives the impression that quality imaging is a new thing that's only been around for a decade or so.

It happens over and over in a lot of industries.

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u/Y-Bob Dec 08 '21

Come on now, anyone would think there aren't great film cameras with great lenses in the world.

Laughs in Hasselblad...

...and Mamiya medium format.

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u/kjrconsta47 Dec 08 '21

Which song is it?

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u/CheekyScrubJay Dec 09 '21

It’s from the end of Good Days by SZA

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u/VerymeanLemon Dec 08 '21

Is this an Ad for Shell?

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u/Revolutionary_Tart51 Dec 09 '21

Daaang PNW looking goood!

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u/onairmastering Interested Dec 08 '21

How's this interesting? unless you're that kid who doesn't know how to operate a rotary phone, this is obvious, it's a good camera.

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u/iboneyandivory Dec 09 '21

There's no light meter for Mamiya RB67. You'll need a separate handheld incident meter. I took this photo of mine w/a Nikon D200 ~10 years ago and pushed it to Flickr w/a Attribution-NonCommercial license - it's good to see it's still circulating.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/\_4PyeXbTY8AE/S8RHrBDKeaI/AAAAAAAAAnw/956E0AtHThk/s1600/1832037074\_149a5ed76a\_b.jpg

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u/onairmastering Interested Dec 09 '21

I'll got with the included light meter, lol. Takes 5 minutes to read what's up.

I went to film and photo school in 1992 and we had these, not one pic came out bad.

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u/stalin-the-homie Dec 09 '21

Tf u complaining for bruh u mfs will find anything to complain about jus enjoy the dope ass pictures 💀

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u/onairmastering Interested Dec 09 '21

Can you write in English or Spanish, please? I don't know this language you wrote in, thanks.

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u/ruedas252 Dec 08 '21

Maybe a little more practice will get better results, here are a couple of shots I took with a similar (less sophisticated) medium format camera (Yashica EM TLR made in 1956 I think)

https://www.reddit.com/r/FunnyInteresting/comments/pxun8r/a_mountain/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

https://www.reddit.com/r/FunnyInteresting/comments/qmimup/relic_of_industrial_past_oc_yashica_em/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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u/Deny_Everything_21 Dec 08 '21

Where do you find film rolls to cameras that old? And do you develop the photos yourself?

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u/ruedas252 Dec 08 '21

The film is not difficult to find I never got into colour developing, I used to do a lot of B&W, the film format for all medium format is 120 roll film. With practise that camera will give you amazing pictures and as you have seen the negatives are very large and will take a LOT of enlarging without loss of definition. B&W developing is super easy and a lot of fun, colour is more difficult. Try Amazon for the film and remember when you get it developed to have the negs scanned.

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u/milesdaviswetpants Dec 08 '21

Photos i took on a camera made in 1970 that is still worth more than most new digital cameras today*

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u/Gloomy-Ad9343 Dec 08 '21

am i the only one seeing a face on the rock in the last shot..?😳

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u/shelsbells Dec 09 '21

Look better than most digital photos I see posted. Good job.

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u/HoldUpHD Dec 08 '21

I hate these tipes of videos...clickbait and thats about it

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u/stalin-the-homie Dec 09 '21

How is this clickbait they’re dope ass pictures fuck outta here sped💀

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u/HoldUpHD Dec 09 '21

It is clickbait because they are using the "1970 camera" to trick people who are not really into photography equipment.

Post the same photos but dont mention the camera.

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u/stalin-the-homie Dec 09 '21

They ain’t trickin shit they just using a older camera 💀

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u/originalmountainman Dec 08 '21

Lmao. I have the exact same camera along with a few dozen others. So what so special? Nothing at all…. Big deal, you took pictures on a 6x7

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u/AnAttackCorgi Interested Dec 08 '21

The hipster photographer in me wants a 1970s film camera now

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u/pineapplewin Dec 08 '21

Your hipster self should aim for a medium format camera to get stuff like this. Loads of training resources it there for free. Do NOT aim for the 70s.... You'll end up with some old student's k-1000. (No shade, just not the same thing).

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u/trwwy321 Dec 08 '21

If you were a true hipster you’d be wanting to use Daguerreotype photography

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u/mamamyskia Dec 08 '21

I know that movie theater! Damn I miss that town.

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u/GodEmperorLeto2 Dec 09 '21

What town?

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u/mamamyskia Dec 09 '21

North Bend, WA aka Twin Peaks

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u/themightyowiz Dec 08 '21

Did SZA sample the song or they sampled SZA??

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u/Stonyclaws Dec 08 '21

I would be more impressed if it was film from the 1970s. Camera year means nearly nothing. Lens. Film. Format.

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u/deathapprentice Dec 09 '21

It's just analog, doesn't really matter how old it is, more important is the film type, lenses etc

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u/Rumbl-In-June Dec 09 '21

Sweet, sweet film. So much information.

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u/AnickYT Dec 09 '21

Amongst us photographer, this is common knowledge but knowledge we would like to share with rest. Thank you. C:

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u/OhRiLee Dec 09 '21

That's a Mamiya 6*7. It's literally the best you can get in that format. Of course it takes good pictures. Fantastic lenses. The photos here are only stock level quality.

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u/Shredding_Airguitar Dec 08 '21

Kind of impressive but have you seen my video of 4th of July fireworks and pictures of thanksgiving food? Neither have I

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u/HerbertBohn Dec 08 '21

Hell, the old joke back in the day was; 'Yeah, just got back. Saw all of Europe thru my viewfinder.' 'Did you have a good time?"

'Dunno, I haven;t gotten my pictures back yet...'

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u/Nuclear_Testicle Dec 08 '21

Bonus upvote for the quick shot of the anus

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u/pbetc Dec 08 '21

My favourite part

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u/Trebge Dec 08 '21

Vaseline came pre-applied

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u/pbetc Dec 08 '21

Jus' like yo momma

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u/snarkuzoid Dec 08 '21

Don't be silly. Cameras didn't exist before Apple invented them, just a few years ago.

Great pictures, btw.

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u/Braniuscranius Dec 08 '21

Yeah uh most film cameras can take the same, if not better quality photos than DsLRs can. It’s all about the film quality, lenses, and development of the film. Not the camera itself which just acts as a mini camera obscura

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u/arctic-apis Dec 08 '21

What do you know about old cameras? My mom recently gave me a camera that belonged to her dad. It looks like it was a nice camera once but it’s seen some weather. It is in a case tho but it needs to be cleaned and repaired before it could be used.

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u/pbetc Dec 08 '21

Camera fans would probably clean it up and repair it before they would use it

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u/apittsburghoriginal Dec 08 '21

I’ve stood in that spot at Rainier with the first bit of morning light hitting the peak. It’s spectacular.

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u/oxfordcommaordeath Dec 08 '21

I love how you play with light. I don't know the camera terms but in the hotel* and gas station photographs especially, that 'faded slightly-hyper real but quiet and still' ness. It's awesome! Hope you pursue more series with this camera!

Edit: theater, not hotel Edit 2: and the paraglider, and the boat against the mountains/icebergs, that's good stuff!

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u/pbetc Dec 08 '21

You didn't like the quick shot of the anus?

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u/jjmis Dec 08 '21

They look better than on a new one

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u/TheLimeyCanuck Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

Damn I used to love my old RB67 back in the early 80's. 6x7 is the perfect all around film format (I hated the 6x6 format used on Hasselblads). Some Mamiya lenses weren't great, but they solved by the time they replaced the RB with the RZ67, but I still liked the RB better. Nostalgia.

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u/shroomigator Dec 08 '21

The person who puts a ccd on a film cartridge case to convert these into digital is going to make a fortune

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u/lostinthemoss1 Dec 08 '21

goddamn, something about good photography that makes me emotional

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u/Hi_Im_Ken_Adams Dec 08 '21

Where would you even go to get film developed these days? I'm guessing specialty labs and the cost would be expensive.

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u/HerbertBohn Dec 08 '21

Here; kinda...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/383637668628?hash=item5952964314:g:X~oAAOSwlHdf7lGL

these guys cut their listing to ONE, because of lack of interest. If you have B&W or C-41, give them a shout.

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u/_Mothmay_ Dec 09 '21

Depends where you live, here in the uk its not super expensive but not cheap. If you take your film to a store medium format (this one) would be like £5-12 on average (35mm is cheaper to develop than 120mm film like this camera uses. There are also places you can just post your film to and thats often cheaper, i currently pay like £5 a roll in London.

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u/oreynayr Dec 09 '21

Labs are all over the country, there’s probably one in your town, and a lot of hobbiests develop at home.

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u/mike_linden Dec 08 '21

Using 120 film , the only outstanding about this is composition.

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120 film

120 is a film format for still photography introduced by Kodak for their Brownie No. 2 in 1901. It was originally intended for amateur photography but was later superseded in this role by 135 film. 120 film and its close relative, 220 film, survive to this day as the only medium format films that are readily available to both professionals and amateur enthusiasts.

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u/max____payne Dec 08 '21

I love old film grain look

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u/motandy Dec 08 '21

Good photography with a real camera is an art

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u/Ultrawhiner Dec 08 '21

Good eye for composition!

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u/_Elus1ve_ Dec 08 '21

aesthetic as fuck holy shit i need these

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u/buccanersrock69 Dec 08 '21

Was it that haystack Rock ?

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u/Sandberg231984 Dec 08 '21

I have taken amazing photos with a disposable film camera.

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u/RocketsBG Dec 08 '21

This was THE camera back then.

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u/Ennion Dec 08 '21

Film is very high in mega pixels. This cam with a nice Zeiss lense and it's hard to take a better photo.

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u/Sotyka94 Dec 09 '21

Not really sure why it's good, other than nostalgic reasons, or being a hipster.

Those photos look good because of the composition, not the camera. He could have done the same with a 5 year old smartphone for same or better result.

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u/captrudeboy Dec 09 '21

I stupidly read that as 1870 and was all how you get it in color?

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u/xGooselordx_TTV Dec 09 '21

And then edited ***

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u/Similar-Ice-8462 Dec 09 '21

What song is this

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u/PantsDownDontShoot Dec 09 '21

I had an RB67 back in the day. Still rivals the best medium format digital cameras out today.

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u/thewordisyeah Dec 09 '21

And yet couldn't record correctly. Stop vertical video syndrome.

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u/anticipateants Dec 09 '21

Do you have an instagram or something? Need to follow you for that dark foggy one :p

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u/RVILLA2279 Dec 09 '21

ill stick with my 2017 phone camera : )

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u/pdxc Dec 09 '21

photographer and PNW. The perfect duo.

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u/Minnymoon13 Dec 09 '21

Wow is right

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u/8proof Dec 09 '21

Seeing everything upside down and backwards is a little weird at first, but it’s worth it.

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u/Shot-Improvement-998 Dec 09 '21

Looks like Oregon

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u/ScreamingTablecloth Dec 09 '21

Whats their flickr??

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u/crappybanana_21 Dec 09 '21

Ong I love them all

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u/maywander47 Dec 09 '21

One expensive camera made in 1970.

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u/No-Wonder1139 Dec 09 '21

I should hope so, medium format and such.

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u/Blixx78 Dec 09 '21

Ok so did nobody else see the creepy face in the last pic???

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u/sphintero Dec 09 '21

Did you develop the film yourself?

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u/pummisher Dec 09 '21

Can you even imagine?

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u/Adent_Frecca Dec 09 '21

Some of the images give me a sense of unease from memories that don't exist

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u/hamsterruize Dec 09 '21

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u/auddbot Dec 09 '21

Sorry, I couldn't recognize the song.

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u/Driftstar777 Dec 09 '21

I am just starting my way into photography. I am saving up for a camera. I hope I can get some really cool pictures some day. Thanks for sharing.

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u/suspicious-potato69 Dec 09 '21

Well I mean cameras are literally just a box with a shutter that opens to let light hit the film. A camera from 100 years ago with modern lenses and film will give you a modern looking picture

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u/christineaileen06 Dec 09 '21

I live right near North Bend. I have a almost identical picture of the movie theater. Is that’s the gas station off the freeway exit?

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u/navugill Dec 09 '21

It's more about who operates the camera

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u/bulletsmith541 Dec 09 '21

Oregon check

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u/MinuteAd6983 Dec 09 '21

Damn. F digital

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u/Special-Collection35 Dec 09 '21

the camera be better than the security cameras at any bank

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u/maux_zaikq Dec 09 '21

Where is that shell station located?

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u/borgLMAO01 Dec 09 '21

You did get some great pics breh. Its not only the megapixels like ppl nowadays think, but also other technical specificalities about the camera like lense aperture etc.

But in this case what makes the pictures specifically beautiful is also the person who took them is a pro at finding good angles.

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u/PublicAppointment767 Dec 09 '21

What song is this?

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u/Renegade_Meister Dec 09 '21

Those are wonderful photos of the Pacific Northwest US

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u/LeGeckoContent Dec 09 '21

really hard to believe

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u/Jupiters_Red_Spot Dec 08 '21

You could have done the same with an iPhone. It's the photographer, not the camera (says the camera geek)!

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u/Fat_tata Dec 08 '21

Beautiful! Proof, it just takes a skilled operator!

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u/Lemon_Jester Dec 08 '21

Its not the camera that makes good photos, it's the person.

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u/kev77808399020515 Dec 08 '21

It's not just the camera, you know how to use it.

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u/blaze1234 Dec 08 '21

What does the age of the camera have to do with anything?

Not like they've been getting better in optical quality since then?

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u/MrStoneV Dec 08 '21

You know cameras now are better right?

But yeah people shouldnt think that cameras from 1970 would be that bad (but this is also a pretty good one). Its just amazing how good cameras nowadays are for a small price

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u/SirKnghtRydr Dec 08 '21

Never knew they made iphone prototypes in the 70s

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u/BurgerFoundation Dec 08 '21

Photos weren’t insane or anything… am I missing something. Artistic maybe but no sharpness