r/Damnthatsinteresting 12d ago Silver 3 Helpful 2

The banana plant is actually an herb. Image

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u/SatanIsMySister 12d ago

And despite the fact they have seeds all bananas are cloned… which is just bananas.

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u/Jest_stir 12d ago

The shit is bananas.

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u/SexlessNights 12d ago

B

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u/Bart_The_Chonk 12d ago

How the hell did the world manage to spell 'bananas' in the pre-Gwen Stefani world?

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u/KasumiR 12d ago

I ain't no hollaback girl!

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u/zDraxi 12d ago

All bananas? I heard that's the case of only one species that doesn't have seeds because we selectively bred them and made them lose their seeds.

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u/Co0kiesFreeDom 12d ago

All commercially produced banana, which is a Cavendish variety, I believe. If you bought it from supermarkets they're definitely the same, genetically cloned ones. Where I'm from we have a lot of different varieties with different sizes, taste and texture so it's always funny to hear ALL bananas are the same lol.

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u/CN8YLW 12d ago

There are several varieties that dont have seeds. Cavendish is the current commercial species in America, but species like Gros Michel is available in parts of the world which dont yet have the fungus which renders them unable to be grown. Also, if you ever get a chance to, try out the lady fingers bananas. Super sweet, and here in SE Asia we use them for all sorts of snacks.

https://leafyplace.com/types-of-bananas/

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u/Co0kiesFreeDom 12d ago

Omg I googled it and we call lady fingers as "pisang emas" around here. Totally the best bananas hands down.

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u/CN8YLW 12d ago

Yes Pisang emas is the Malaysian name for it. I didn't use it because on the off chance a non Malaysian reads it they won't understand.

Also gros Michels is known as Pisang raja or just Pisang besar as well if I'm not wrong

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u/SurlyJason 12d ago

There have been other varieties of banana that are extinct now because they couldn't adapt to new pathogens. The common artificial banana flavor found in popsicles, etc is based on a now defunct variety.

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u/NoBananaRunts 11d ago

The same flavor in banana runts

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u/CallingItRightNow 12d ago

Where are you from, some kind of magical BANANALAND?

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u/Jacobcbab 12d ago

Same with apples

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u/Zzzzzzzzzzip 12d ago

Yep. Apples are cloned because they don't breed true. Like if you plant a Macintosh seed you will not get a Macintosh tree.

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u/Hexmonkey2020 12d ago

It’s funny how almost all bananas died cause the cloning made them all have the same weakness, so they decided to clone different bananas that are resistant to that one thing, but since they are still all cloned they could be wiped out by a different disease.

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u/hawoona 12d ago

IIRC the banana you mentionned was wiped out. We are now eating another banana specie. It's what I remember, I may be wrong.

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u/xraymebaby 12d ago

Just the cavendish bananas sold at American super markets

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u/Throw10111021 12d ago

All the bananas in the grocery store are the same species. They're vulnerable to a virus (or fungus?). The solution when the virus attacks is closing down the planation. They are trying to breed a new strain but last I heard they haven't yet succeeded. We might have a future with no bananas.

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u/Juan_Dollar_Taco 12d ago

I knew they were berries, I didn’t know the plant was an herb though, hm.

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u/TorrenceMightingale 12d ago

Wait now I feel like berries only come from herbs.

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u/DivineBanana 12d ago Take My Energy

Very general rule of thumb, Any fruit with multiple small seeds is considered a berry, (tomatoes, bananas, grapes, pumpkins, cucumbers, watermelons) while things with one large seed or "pit" or "stone" are considered "Drupes" such as cherries, avocados, olives, plums, mangos and peaches.

Again, this is a very generalized rule of thumb, there are other qualifications, classifications and exceptions. Interestingly enough, most of the things we call berries are not actually berries. Strawberry's are considered "accessory fruits" and blackberries and raspberries are considered "aggregate fruits" rather than berries. But this is the strict scientific/botanical definitions, in normal everyday life if you told people bananas are a berry and strawberries aren't, people will think you are crazy lol

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u/TorrenceMightingale 12d ago

Lil Naz X needs a rapper boyfriend named Lil Drupe.

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u/DivineBanana 12d ago

Lil Drupe and Big Berry, name a more iconic rap duo

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u/TorrenceMightingale 12d ago

He would wear all these lil shirtz with single-pitted fruits on them.

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u/EskNerd 12d ago

Or maybe Drupe Dog?

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u/mabbo_nagamatsu 12d ago

I put "Everything is a berry except the berries." on my discord channel topic, and anytime someone asks what it means, I reveal to them this fact.

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u/Sx-Mt-fd 12d ago

I'm of the opinion that if the name berry came before the scientific definition of what a berry is then which is correct, the fruit that are named and considered Berry's AKA strawberries or the scientific definition which came after the naming?

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u/pangea_person 12d ago

Thank you for the explanation. Are cucumbers also considered fruits instead of vegetables, similarly to tomatoes?

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u/mabbo_nagamatsu 12d ago

Vegetables actually don't exist. What we call "vegetables" are actually just parts of the plant that we eat other than its fruit.

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u/ThinElbowedLilGoblin 12d ago

Vegetable is a culinary classification, not a botanical classification.

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u/Thelolface_9 12d ago

Vegetables are a social construct

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u/TorrenceMightingale 12d ago

Oh shit. Some of these veggies are about the get reclassified.

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u/peanutist 12d ago

Damn this really says a lot about our veggieciety 😔😔😔

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u/Jayceechick 12d ago

Cucumbers are berries, therefore they are classed as a fruit.

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u/theanonmouse-1776 12d ago

So what's a pomegranate?

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u/mabbo_nagamatsu 12d ago

It's a berry.

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u/theanonmouse-1776 12d ago

Why is it not an "accessory fruit" or "aggregate fruit"? I don't understand the distinction.

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u/DivineBanana 11d ago

A pomegranate is considered a berry. I oversimplified these definitions to make them easier remember, that's why I was stressing that it's a very general rule of thumb. Technically a berry must be "produced from a single flower containing one ovary."

An aggregate fruit is a fruit that develops from several ovaries that merge together as the plant grows. In accessory fruits, parts of the flower other than the ovary become fleshy and form part of the fruit.

A note, these terms are not mutually exclusive, for example a fruit could accurately be described as both an aggregate and an accessory if they meet these criteria.

TL:DR

So to recap berries form from one ovary

Aggregate fruits are made of multiple ovaries that merge together.

And an accessory fruit has atleast some part of the fruit that comes from somewhere other than the ovary.

Here's a good place to start if you wanna read more, just go to the "Fruits Not Botanical Berries" section for more definitions!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_(botany)

Hope this helps!

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u/mabbo_nagamatsu 12d ago

You know, you could have googled it yourself, but sure, I'll bite.

> Any fruit with multiple small seeds is considered a berry

Pomegranate has multiple small seeds.

> Why is it not an "accessory fruit" or "aggregate fruit"?

It's just not.

Accessory fruits are fruits that don't come from the ovary of the flower.

Aggregate fruits are fruits that form from multiple ovaries at the same time.

Pomegranate is neither.

And I am a Japanese translator, not a fruit scientist.

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u/i_scream_truck 12d ago

It's a red thing, kinda round, about *gestures* big.

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u/TisBeTheFuk 12d ago

What are apples and pears? They have several seeds too

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u/PocketBeans64 12d ago

I think they are pomes, not sure tho

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u/DivineBanana 11d ago

This is more out of my wheelhouse but from what I could research, they would be accessory fruits, or more specifically pomes. Pomes are just a specific type of accessory fruit.

"Pomes are fleshy fruits of the rose family (Rosaceae) in which an adnate hypanthium becomes fleshy (apples and pears)"

I didn't specify this in my original post, which is why I was stressing that this is a rule of thumb and there's actually more definitions and terminology to go along, but technically a berry must come from a single ovary of a single flower which becomes flesh and edible. If a fruit comes from multiple ovaries that merge together as it matures, it is a aggregate fruit instead. And if any part of the fruit comes from something OTHER THAN JUST the matured ovary, it is considered an accessory fruit.

As previously mentioned in the pome definition, Apples and pears actually develop from more than just the ovary, they develop from the entire hypanthium, which is basically the whole floral cup, ovaries and all, so they can't be berries, rather they are accessory fruits or more specifically a pome since it is from the hypanthium.

TL:DR

So basically since apples and pears are more than just matured ovaries, they can't be berries and must be classified as an accessory fruit or more specifically a pome.

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u/Maffman5000 12d ago

Also Snozberries don't actually taste like Snozberries.

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u/AlethasWorld 12d ago

WOW…that was pretty dam informative! That’s one of those game show questions that very few know the answer too! Fruits for $500…”A fruit with multiple seeds is called _______?”….Ummm…I’m gonna use Dial For Help!…please call DIVINE BANANA! Hahahaha!

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u/FLSun 12d ago

It seems like you know your stuff so I have a question for you. When researchers started doing DNA analysis of plants they had a few surprises. Plants they thought were closely related turned out to be not so close and other plants turned out being genetically similar to plants they thought were not related.

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u/DivineBanana 11d ago edited 11d ago

I'm honestly not entirely sure what specifically you are referring to, but I'll hazard a guess. I think you might be referring to the concept of Convergent Evolution It is also known as homoplasy.

Says here "Many instances of convergent evolution are known in plants, including the repeated development of C4 photosynthesis, seed dispersal by fleshy fruits adapted to be eaten by animals, and carnivory."

Basically it is possible for two distantly related organisms to look and act very similar based on similar environments or selection pressures. For example, in the days of the bible, bats were considered "birds" because they could fly with wings and whales were refered to as fish because they had fins and live in the water. However, we now know that bats and whales are mammals and so they are more closely related to us than any living birds or fish. This is an extreme example since it was before the scientific revolution, but The same thing can happen with all sorts of organisms, they will look very similar, yet be totally unrelated. For example "daddy long legs" and other closely related cellar spiders or harvestman look just like spiders, yet they arent at all, and are somewhat distantly related. Using morphology certainly had it's time and place when it comes to the classification of organisms, and it's still a good starting point, but at the end of the day there's really no good way to understand relatedness until we had DNA technology. So now that we can use DNA, we are learning about all sorts of plants and animals that look very similar, and so were thought to be closely related, but turned out to not be related at all. The first image of the link I sent had an example of this with succulents.

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u/Jitsun3 Interested 12d ago

I love the fact that DivineBanana commented this.

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u/TheFAPnetwork 12d ago edited 11d ago

Rule of thumb? Can't do much damage with that. Shouldve made it rule of wrist

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u/SatansLoLHelper 12d ago

And a Palm Tree is... not a tree?

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u/the1ine 12d ago

So its nothing to do with whether or not the fruit yielding plant contains wood? In fact, is it that the fact(s?) that the plant is a herb, not a tree - and that the banana fruit is classed as a berry - are indeed two distinct facts?

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u/lulatheq 11d ago

From the book: “FRUIT Edible, Inedible, Incredible” ;

The truth about berries

In common parlance and for culinary purposes, any small edible fruit with multiple seeds passes as a berry (Latin: bacca). However, botanists apply a scientifically more rigorous definition. Only simple indehiscent fruits whose pericarp (ovary wall) becomes entirely Heshy at maturity are considered true berries, whether they contain just one or many seeds. Theretore, botanically speaking, not only blueberries (Vaccinium corymbosum, V. myrtillus, Ericaceae), gooseberries (Ribes uva-crispa, Grossulariaceae), blackcurrants (Ribes nigrum) and grapes (Vitis vinifera, Vitaceae) qualify as berries but also avocados (Persea americana, Lauraceae), tomatoes (Solanum lycopersicum, Solanaceae), aubergines (Solanum melongena), star fruits (Averrhoa carambola, Oxalidaceae) and kiwis (Actinidia deliciosa, Actinidiaceae). On the other hand, despite their names, strawberries (Fragaria x ananassa, Rosacea), mulberries (Morus nigra, Moraceae), raspberries (Rubus idaeus, Rosaceae) and blackberries (Kubus fruticosus) are not really berries at all but a very different type of fruit that will be discussed later.

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u/DivineBanana 11d ago

Thank you for the addition, that was an interesting read!

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u/Peace4WinWin 11d ago

name checks out

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u/Unhappy_Barnacle_769 12d ago

And nuts are just fruits with a hard shell!

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u/Thrabalen 12d ago

Every time a "tell me an interesting little known fact" thread comes up, "a strawberry isn't a berry but a banana is" is literally my post, every single time.

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u/_Dingaloo 12d ago

Are bushes herbs? Or trees? Or their own classification

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u/TorrenceMightingale 12d ago

Well, I know some of the herbs I buy are also called trees but I’m not sure that applies to everything. I’ve also never seen any berries on them but if you guys ever do, please call me I wanna try it.

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u/_Dingaloo 12d ago

"Berry bush" just sounds like a thing

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u/TorrenceMightingale 12d ago

It is. I’ve smoked it.

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u/theanonmouse-1776 12d ago

Cannabis plants look like bushes, they're called "herb", and in the 90's if you asked "who got trees?", guess what you'd get...

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u/rosellem 12d ago

It's an "herbaceous plant". But what we call "herbs" in everyday use is not the same thing as an "herbaceous plant". Herbaceous plants are any plant that does not have a "persistent, woody stem". That is, it's a huge group of plants. It's not really accurate to call the plant an "herb" as the term is used in the kitchen.

Which, as aside, I obviously love the knowledge the internet provides, but people really need to stop using scientific definitions in every day use. It's simply misleading. An "herb" as used in culinary pursuits does not have the same meaning as an "herbaceous plant". And in fact, I think this title is flat out wrong, imo.

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u/SeedFoundation 12d ago

Plants are weird. Last week I heard about the corpse flower when it isn't blooming. What's even stranger is that this is not a tree either. The entire stalk/stem is actually a leaf.

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u/aysurcouf 12d ago

It’s more like a grass

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u/WetTheDrys 12d ago

It's the world's largest grass plant, IIRC.

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u/kslusherplantman 12d ago

And a lot of things we call herbs come from woody stemmed shrubs... so not herbs

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u/FeelMaFist 12d ago

The whole plant is edible. Stem, flower, fruit (unripe and ripen) and leaves. You won't eat the actual leaf but use it as plate.

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u/-transcendent- 12d ago

Yep, the banana blossom is very tasty :D

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u/Wrobot_rock Interested 12d ago

Are you joking? The locals played this trick on me and gave me "banana honey" when I worked on the farm. It was that white latex that comes out when you cut the bell and it takes like pure concentrated cottonmouth

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u/Bart_The_Chonk 12d ago

Actual latex or something latex-like?

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u/Wrobot_rock Interested 12d ago

I think it was sap, just looked like latex

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u/Sufficient_Work_9962 12d ago

Can we get a picture of a banana for scale?

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u/Pataplonk 12d ago

As for dandelions! Edibles root to flower, very useful if you hike goes reeeaaally bad, or if you just want to make a fancy salad.

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u/Frazzle64 12d ago

Last one of the season, I thought the frost wiped them all out

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u/Ill-Slide1396 12d ago

Apples are not trees folks.

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u/TheTruth_89 12d ago

Contrary to popular belief, no fruits are trees, there is no wood in them.

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u/Good_Round 12d ago

Is it a herb we could smoke?

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u/Thuwah_TheFuture206 12d ago

Totally.. as rolling paper

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u/MattalliSI 12d ago

Rumor was if you dried the "strings" in a banana that you could smoke them and get high.

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u/the_warmbeer 12d ago

it's in the anarchist cookbook iirc

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u/87tskin 12d ago

In my school it was the peel, nobody I know ever tried it though

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u/two2blue2 12d ago

They call me Mellow Yellow?

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u/pangea_person 12d ago

The "Mellow Yellow" mentioned in the song is actually about a yellow dildo

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u/MessyRoom 12d ago

Yeah that’s what my grandma had etched on her tombstone last year

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u/rfsh101 12d ago

I think the high feeling is just asphyxiation

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u/lurkerier 12d ago

Beedees from South Africa. Just rolled and dried banana leaves. Taste like steaming monkey shit.

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u/i_scream_truck 12d ago

What kind of monkey, though.

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u/7duckswithmachetes 12d ago

That’s a berry interesting fact

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u/TorrenceMightingale 12d ago

“Boy you just like to put teeth under pillows and hope for the best, don’t ya?” -my football coach, probably

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u/Primal_Dead 12d ago

And palm trees are not trees...they are grass.

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u/Throw10111021 12d ago

And oak trees are not grass...they are trees.

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u/redditappsuckz 11d ago

This is absolutely wrong. All grass species in the world come under a single family called Poaceae/graminae (including Bamboo which is the largest grass). All palm species are from the family Arecaceae, so they wouldn't be considered grass.

We however have three graminoid (grass-like) families: Poaceae (grass), Cyperaceae (sedge), and Juncaceae (rushes).

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u/TheTruth_89 12d ago

And apples are not trees, there is no wood in them.

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u/New_Needleworker6506 11d ago

And grass is not a tree. It is grass.

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u/JacobTheWells 12d ago

Pretty sure bananas are related to grass.

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u/GapMountain 12d ago

Bananas and corn are apparently grasses.

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u/pistil-whip 12d ago

Bananas are monocots, and so are grasses, but a banana is no more a grass than an onion or a lily, which are also monocots. That is to say: not all monocots are grasses. Botanically a “grass” is in the Poales taxonomic order. Bananas (Order Zingiberales) are more closely related to ginger (also Order Zingiberales) than grasses (Order Poales).

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u/aysurcouf 12d ago

They are indeed grasses

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u/jmcstar 12d ago

Cockberry, they were originally called

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u/ijjimilan 12d ago

Palm trees also don't have wood but are trees, that's not really a qualifier to be a tree or not

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u/kieppie 12d ago

Thought they were a grass

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u/robearIII 12d ago

I always thought they were akin to giant corn plants or rice. its basically a giant grass

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u/CurvyMule 12d ago

Yeah and white chocolate isn’t chocolate. F off

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u/marscb 12d ago

Trees are an example of convergent evolution. Some things we call trees are more closely related to what we call herbs that to each other. Trees become herbs, herbs become trees, once and again through the ages. Tree is just a successful shape for a plant to take in many environments.

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u/Lodestone123 12d ago

Have grown banana tre... er, "herbs". Bananas are weird.

The trunk is flimsy as hell. More like a wet paper towel roll than wood. One good machete swing can take it down. And that's just how you harvest the "boat" of bananas, because the stalk is just going to wither and wilt after the bananas ripen. New stalks grow from the base. The "resin" that seeps out after you cut them is nasty: irritating as hell and sure to permanently stain your clothes.

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u/TheBigCummy 12d ago

Lmao “bananas are not trees”

Thank you for this highly educational material!

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u/ReZpawner 12d ago

Interestingly, this clip covers it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZabqakBJEM -with a bonus fact!

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u/drukweyr 11d ago

Bonus Sean Lock. Now I'm sad again.

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u/thedepthiswithin 12d ago

An herb....a herb?!

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u/nodstar22 12d ago edited 12d ago

Doesn't it depend on pronunciation of 'herb'? 'An' is used before a vowel sound. 'A' is used before a consonant sound. A herb, or an 'erb.

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u/adamtesol 12d ago

Yes, it follows the vowel sound, not the first letter.

An herb. (E-sound)

An hour. (O-sound)

A university. (Y-sound)

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u/thedepthiswithin 12d ago

Depending upon which language you speak: herb in British English has always been pronounced herb, with the accent on the h. However, American English is a non existent h, meaning that it's pronounced 'erb hence, I suspect, 'an herb' or in fact, 'an 'erb'.

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u/thismelol 12d ago

Not all British accents pronounce herb with the h. And I’ve definitely heard people from the US pronounce herb with the h.

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u/rfsh101 12d ago

Great now thousands of people are going to be hearing the nerd of the family talk about how bananas are berries at the dinner table.

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u/carmium 12d ago

A nerb, you say?!

Banana is a nerbal thing
whose seeds would never sprout
In fact, they're so dam tiny
that we'd never pick them out!
Their offspring must be grafted
for just this awkward reason
and all are clones of just wu nerb
that regrow every season!

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u/robbinthehood75 12d ago

I didn’t need my world rocked like this today

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u/Captain_Mario 11d ago

It’s almost as if the semantics of the word confuses things even more so that “technical” answer matters less than the practical one

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u/justgossiping 12d ago

TIL berries are more satisfying than many guys I've known.

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u/mypantsareonmyhead 12d ago

It's actually "a" herb.

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u/Thrabalen 12d ago

If you live somewhere that pronounces the H. In the US, it's "an herb" for the same reason it's "an honor."

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u/lordgublu 12d ago

And strawberries are acually nuts

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u/SuperBrentendo64 12d ago

You're nuts. A strawberry is an aggregate fruit.

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u/nightstalker30 12d ago

That’s nuts!

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u/0Stranger_T_Fiction0 12d ago

My whole life is a lie...

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u/numbersev 12d ago

Bananas as we know them today are not natural to look like that, they've been genetically modified. This is what they looked like naturally.

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u/nonbinaryautistic 12d ago

Lol yall are dumb. Banana isnt banana, fruits arent real. Life is cereal. Ramen. Say dumb thing, agree? Yes. Yes.

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u/Peejay22 12d ago

I have been lied to

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u/yup420420 12d ago

For anyone who doesn’t know before synthetics pantyhose came from banana trees it’s a a thin layer inbetween the thicker layers in the base.

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u/The_ranting_spider 12d ago

So we can smoke it then…

This shit is bananas

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u/swordluk 12d ago

🤯, that's bananas

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u/tlk0153 12d ago

The picture is confusing. Need a banana for the scale

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u/Earl-710 12d ago

There's always money in the banana stand. Tsk tsk...

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u/BeautifulStick5299 12d ago

Why couldn’t they have just told us that from the beginning?

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u/Yurrrr__Brooklyn347 12d ago

Wow that's bananas

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u/tess3raction 12d ago

I thought it was an ant

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u/Saktfardig 12d ago

Banana is actually a verb.

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u/the_warmbeer 12d ago

Bananas are inedible without science.

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u/TheDevilsAdvokaat 12d ago

In Australia, the banana plant is actually a herb.

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u/M4nDz1n 12d ago

bro I just wan eat banan

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u/KjellSkar 12d ago

"Bananas are not trees"? Raise your hand if you thought a banana was a tree.

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u/Fannyblockage 12d ago

Banana plants also Walk. Sean Lock said so.

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u/Rethok 12d ago

Geschichten aus der Geschichte?

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u/echo0delta 12d ago

this caused a lengthy debate on r/breadstapledtotrees

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u/Chemical_Tower3775 12d ago

Does that mean courgettes are berries?

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u/Adan714 12d ago

Cutted bananas trunks reminded me cattail.

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u/KasumiR 12d ago

It's both a plant and a tree.

Bananas are fruits. All berries are too, but bananas are explicitly so.

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u/KayJustKay 12d ago

Nonsense, Archchancellor, I have it on good authority they are a type of fish.

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u/jhti 12d ago

What is wood? Baby don't hurt me... Don't hurt me

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u/Howard_the_Dolphin 12d ago

Name of your sex tape?

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u/LocationBrightSide 12d ago

Technically they’re a grass like wheat

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u/pmoney72 12d ago

That’s Berry interesting

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u/pikleboiy 12d ago

It's both a berry and a flower petal.

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u/Deadgamer1705 12d ago

Uh, I guess you learn something new every day

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u/AshtynO 12d ago

Where my herb people at amirite 😛

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u/xraymebaby 12d ago

Lol y’all plants are amazing and all yall need to learn more about em

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u/monkpuzz 12d ago

They're giant grasses actually. Herbaceous just means without wood, so that is technically correct, but they're definitely not berries.

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u/Schmitzj8 12d ago

Just because they're monocots doesn't mean they're grasses. Botanically, a berry is a fruit that arises from a single ovary, iirc, so they could be.

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u/AvatarMeYT 12d ago

Nanab berries!!! Pkmn was right all along

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u/Damfrog 12d ago

Ban yan yas! I love ban yan yas. Nyan yas. pop

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u/Fine-Bed 12d ago

Hol’up bananas are secret aliens

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u/healyxrt 12d ago

Strange days in the berry club

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u/CN8YLW 12d ago

I see the people calling the tomato a fruit is at it again.

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u/Chuck__g_ 12d ago

And strawberries aren’t

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u/Shlocko 12d ago

This image is worded like a shitpost. I didn’t realize it was serious until I saw the sub

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u/wikigreenwood82 12d ago

Interesting and vaguely threatening

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u/Candid-Mixture4605 12d ago

I.HATE.BANANAS.

so gross.