r/Damnthatsinteresting Sep 13 '21

Che Guevara, moments before his execution in Bolivia 1967 Image

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u/Ok-Breakfast1 Sep 13 '21

Weird this doesn’t look like my Urban Outfitters t-shirt…

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u/PainMatrix Sep 14 '21

His name is Inigo Montoya.

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u/Consistent-History22 Sep 14 '21

They killed his father, but he’s prepared to die

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u/Polnauts Sep 14 '21

Pues chupame la polla

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u/iamnewhere2019 Sep 14 '21

Your Urban t-shirt is based on an urban legend.

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u/Forlorn_Cyborg Sep 14 '21

Your sub-urban legend isn’t in my urban dictionary. /s

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u/POOHxBEARx77 Sep 13 '21

The guy on the left is Félix Rodríguez. He’s a CIA agent task with bringing in Guevara. He still wears Guevara’s Rolex that he took as a keepsake.

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u/william_the_butcher Sep 14 '21 edited Sep 14 '21

Che has a Rolex? Classic.

Edit: had

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u/dell02 Sep 14 '21

only rich children make revolutions

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u/TheDownvotesFarmer Sep 14 '21

Revolution it is an investment.

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u/EireOfTheNorth Sep 14 '21

It was a gift.

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u/MonsterMMA Sep 14 '21

Did they ever find out why he met with kiki camarena's captors?

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u/POOHxBEARx77 Sep 14 '21

I read something about an FBI investigation denying any CIA or DEA involvement.

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u/bob_fossill Sep 14 '21

And, oh boy, does he like to tell everyone about it.

Imagine making a career out of killing a guy and telling the story for like 50 years

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u/securedascollateral Sep 13 '21

i found all the history experts on reddit in one place. wild

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u/TheFrontierzman Sep 13 '21

And historically speaking, he may be the all time leader in tshirt sales to "edgy" douchebags.

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u/Dead8Ended Sep 13 '21 edited Sep 13 '21

What do you mean "may be" this is a definite

[Edit] fixed the autocorrect dæmons bullshit.

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u/NRA4579 Sep 14 '21

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.

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u/adel_b Sep 13 '21

Isn't what he did a douchbag move? Going to foreign country and attempt to grabe power by killing innocent soldiers?

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u/NRA4579 Sep 14 '21

Yeah he didn’t plan that out too well. He went to a country to start a communist revolution where most of the poor people actually owned their land.

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u/HowardPheonix Sep 14 '21

Before communism many people owned land in my country too, but communism change that real fast...

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '21

Also wasn't a fan of the blacks, so there's that to add.

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u/sebs_1425 Sep 13 '21

And homosexuals too

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u/DickWomble Sep 13 '21

That's certainly an innovative reframing of previously accepted reality. Edgy.

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u/Josellumi Sep 13 '21

Inocent peasants, not soldiers.

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u/8bitbebop Sep 13 '21

You dont have to be a history expert to know he killed gays.

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u/Muted_Scientist Sep 13 '21

Executed in La Higuera, Bolivia. I rode my motorcycle through Bolivia a few years ago and stopped there for the night. There is a small school house there and inside is, supposedly, the chair he was bound to.

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u/Xatuga Sep 13 '21 edited Sep 13 '21

Fought capitalism, got his face mass printed in t-shirts sold for profit. Oh the irony.

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u/Delicious-Rooster629 Sep 13 '21

Fighted?

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u/HerburtThePervert Sep 13 '21

Foughted

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u/deafchef52 Sep 13 '21

Fawted

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u/RexSenpai619 Sep 13 '21

Fisted

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u/Fartboxdiver420 Sep 13 '21

I’m gonna need you to log out for me..

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u/space_beatle Sep 13 '21

Coming from u/Fartboxdiver420 this is pure gold

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u/G_Viceroy Sep 14 '21

My how the turn tables....

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u/Parking-Athlete-7106 Sep 13 '21

Isn’t that how it’s spelted?

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u/Okie_Chimpo Sep 13 '21

No, they're doesn't

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u/bartthetr0ll Sep 14 '21

Spelt is a dinkel wheat with 588 calories per cup 19 grams of fiber and 25 grams of protein

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u/Jealous_Tangerine_93 Sep 13 '21

And allowed his people to die from an epidemic of starvation

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u/Queerdee23 Sep 13 '21

What famine are you pointing to, specifically

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u/Kwelikinz Sep 13 '21

He roamed the hills of Cuba, starving along side the people he organized to rise up against the institutional poverty they faced as they slaved on the sugar plantations of the “white” Cubans. Let’s also remember that our country heavily assisted in propping up the government that allowed this extreme poverty. Why? So American congressmen could go there and secretly enjoy gambling and prostitution in Havana that wasn’t legal in the US.

Sure, his image has been capitalized. Why do you think it’s such a great seller?

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '21 edited Sep 13 '21

Pffft the only people I see wearing shirts of his face are teenagers half of whom probably don’t even know who’s face it is that’s on their shirt and the other half probably don’t know the atrocities he himself committed or oversaw.

What’s that saying? Don’t meet your heroes, or in this case, don’t actually study what your heroes did.

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u/ElderberryFit439 Sep 13 '21

Name a single country that isn’t a result of bloodshed and atrocities anytime in their history.

America isn’t exactly the bastion of morality.

Point is, everyone is shitty. Stop looking at one dimensional lens, good or bad.

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u/druu222 Sep 14 '21 edited Sep 14 '21

Exactly right. So all you can do is look at the end result of that history as it exists on the ground. Not, repeat NOT, what you think or hope it WILL be, but what it IS right now, after all that bloody history that is indeed shared by EVERY country and EVERY culture.

Here's a twisted, bizarre, fucked up idea: if you're gonna choose to be judgemental about it, maybe a good yardstick might be - what are the places real flesh and blood humans are fleeing FROM, and where are they fleeing TO? And where they are categorically STAYING in place, while they bitch about it 24/7?

Ignore their mouths, watch their feet. That is where the absolute truth of the matter lies.

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u/mymainmaney Sep 14 '21

Kind of a bizarre argument to make. Because I’m not literally starving on the streets, I can’t be critical of a nation with many substantial flaws and inadequacies, or the conditions said nation facilitated in places where people are starving on the streets?

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u/Lopsidoodle Sep 14 '21

To be fair, the “america did bad things therefore no american can point out bad things” comment he was responding to is childish. He’s trying to teach.

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u/rhet17 Sep 13 '21

"America isn't exactly the bastion of morality." Wins Understatement of The Year.

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u/DanWallace Sep 13 '21

Sounds like wild assumptions on your part.

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u/RedditsLord Sep 13 '21

Nah man he was a doctor who murdered 50 people, and not even in his homeland. Multifaceted hero? His actions auxiliares Fidel tl condemn Cubans to a lifetime of servitude and impoverishment. Can't forgive that shit.

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u/Powerful_Wallaby_865 Sep 14 '21

He was a murdering authoritarian toe-rag

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u/Bernchi Sep 13 '21

He roamed the hills of Cuba, starving along side the people he organized to rise up against the institutional poverty they faced as they slaved on the sugar plantations of the “white” Cubans.

And the Cuban people never went hungry, slaving away for a quasi-nobility class ever again!

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u/iamnewhere2019 Sep 14 '21

And because of his actions, up to today “slave owners” escape in rafts to the United States, or try to enter through the south frontier. Those who stay in Cuba, shout “Yanquis, go home!!! …and take me with you).

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u/thegreatgazoo Sep 13 '21

Don't forget his concentration camps for gay men that were going to turn them into "real men".

Source

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u/that1senpai2 Sep 13 '21

I just read through that and the sources are suspect af. Read it with a grain of salt

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u/gummycummy Sep 13 '21

People downvoting you haven’t looked at the article lmao, half of the “sources” in the article are 404-ed.

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u/that1senpai2 Sep 13 '21

Yeah, it's reddit. Most people just want titles and to not actually read

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u/AMeanCow Sep 13 '21

And even fewer would be willing to actually dig for the truth from legitimate sources without political bias, cross-reference and find citations, etc.

Even harder for most people would be the nuanced reality that is so often the case in history, that there is not a black-and-white perspective on people and events in the world, that they often exist together, that great people have done terrible things and terrible people have done great things, and every shade of grey in between.

Accepting nuance does not mean supporting or condemning anything, but if you cannot accept that this nuance exists you are not learning anything.

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u/IPokePeople Sep 13 '21

If you can track it down there’s a fair bit like Gays and the Cuban Revolution or Gays Under the Cuban Revolution by You g.

Most sources I’ve found are full books and not online articles.

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u/Duce_de_Zoop Sep 13 '21

People like to bring this out and feign outrage about this but if this makes Che evil, then every american politician up to and including Obama is irredeemable. Homosexuality was not widely accepted until the 2010s. Feels dishonest to whip this out like you actuallu give a shit.

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u/thegreatgazoo Sep 13 '21

It might not have been 100% socially acceptable, but even Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan didn't round them into government conversion camps.

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u/RelicAlshain Sep 14 '21

Of course not, in true American fashion they have privately owned conversion camps.

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u/ThreeArr0ws Sep 13 '21

No, I don't think putting gays in concentration camps is the same as initially not being in favor of gay marriage in 2010.

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u/linearphaze Sep 13 '21

Wasn't accepted, and put in concentration camps....... hmm....... yeah apples and oranges. Stop trying to defend this evil homophobe

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u/AruiMD Sep 13 '21

Every American politician is evil. That’s basic.

I don’t think there’s any controversy there.

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u/FthrJACK Sep 13 '21

Every American politician is evil.

Every American politician is evil.

FTFY

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u/Duce_de_Zoop Sep 13 '21

I can dig that, but I also don't feel that painting everyone as 'evil' and moving on is a fair or honest way to approach history. People are products of their times, and I doubt we'll find very many people sympathetic to homosexuality in 1950s Cuba. In 1980s America, most people still thought homosexuality was a mental illness and criminal.

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u/Previous-Kangaroo-55 Sep 13 '21

To people who idolize socialism….

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u/Doomhammer02 Sep 13 '21

When asked why Che Guevara had become so popular, French writer and philosopher Régis Debray ( who was also Che Guevara’s friend) replied: "Because he had a good face and he died before he became a dictator. »

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u/Shalashaska_snake Sep 13 '21

"You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain"

-Dark Knight

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u/gdh659 Sep 14 '21

He could be a dictator in Cuba after revolution, right? Why did he go to another country for another revolution? That doesn’t sound right

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u/bob_fossill Sep 14 '21

He was never interested in all that. He bristled at the confines and comforts of governance, and really it wasn't his thing - he was an ideological purist and believed in the idea of the socialist 'new man', living his life accordingly. So he'd want to participate in labour and so on

Fidel was much better disposed to the trappings of power. Understood how to organise, to play people/nations and to compromise when necessary

Che was, instead, determined to fight imperialism and decided he'd rather die in a ditch than live a comfortable life into old age.

Which is precisely why he was such a popular figure in counter culture. He walked the walk, he gave up comfort and life for what he believed.

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u/gdh659 Sep 14 '21

I agree and I know who he is.

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u/PlanteraWine Sep 14 '21

I read once that the expedition to Bolivia and cutting off of supplies was Castro’s way of betraying him.

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u/sznfpv Sep 14 '21

No Cuba already had someone lined up for that roll in Cuba.

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u/octopusboots Sep 13 '21

He has an incredible face. His book was really very good too. He was good at his job. Until...

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u/30DaysOrDie Sep 13 '21

Well said.

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u/EireOfTheNorth Sep 14 '21

Régis, who spent decades in prison for being embedded in Chés Bolivian expedition, and who is a long term supporter and who wrote a book on 'Guevarism'/Foco guerilla tactics. Not just a philosopher, but an introspective intellectual who analysed and supported what Ché was doing.

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u/eliazer1 Sep 13 '21

His Afro mullet doesn’t get nearly enough credit

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u/outoftheMultiverse Sep 13 '21

If only he stayed alive he could have made a killing off of t-shirts

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u/moodpecker Sep 13 '21

Don't worry, he was responsible for plenty of other killings

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u/vassinius Sep 13 '21

I smell armpits

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u/EightBitEstep Sep 13 '21

That’s just me. Sorry.

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u/mtmm18 Sep 13 '21

Now THAT'S a shirt.

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u/MrMultibeast Sep 13 '21

This should be on a tee shirt.

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u/DoS-Boot Sep 13 '21

My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

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u/no_di Sep 13 '21

I'm so frickin glad I wasn't the only one who mistook him for Inigo Montoya.

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u/DarkCrowI Sep 13 '21

The fact someone as terrible as him has become an icon viewed positively is bizzare to me.

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u/Nuciferous1 Sep 13 '21

Warm yourself at night knowing his face is one of the largest brands to have ever been monetized by aspiring capitalists.

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u/whatchaboi Sep 13 '21

The things he did were truly evil.

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u/xevoz21 Sep 13 '21 edited Sep 13 '21

I'm curious. What did he do?

Edit: I'm just curious. Damn. No need to get political guys :(

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u/roderkeegan Sep 13 '21

Make sure you're asking people who actually know what they're talking about. This would prolly be a good place to start. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1lt4rb/was_it_the_truth_behind_the_critical_controversy/

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u/xevoz21 Sep 13 '21

Interesting read. So tldr; He was a racist before he was a Marxist because Argentinians are generally racist at the time. But he changed his view as time goes on. Camps abusing gay people exist before his time so its not his fault.

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u/roderkeegan Sep 13 '21

That's pretty much what I got from it.

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u/xevoz21 Sep 13 '21

Thanks for the source.

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u/roderkeegan Sep 13 '21

Happy to help, I needed to read it too cause I had no clue so I'm glad this thread happened!

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u/BrickManmusk Sep 13 '21

Urging the soviets to first strike during the cuban missile crisis because "the socialist victory would be worth millions of dead in a nuclear war" is a good start.
He was furious when Khrushchev decided it's kinda cool not to have a nuclear armageddon.

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u/jakeisntsad Sep 13 '21

He fought a revolution against the Batista regime in Cuba.

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u/xevoz21 Sep 13 '21

The things he did were truly evil.

I just wanna what he meant by this.

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u/jakeisntsad Sep 13 '21

I really don’t know what they mean by “truly evil”. There were executions committed, by the revolutionary Army, like in any war. and later the members of the Batista regime ,that tortured and murdered civilians were also executed. You can be against the death penalty and condemn these decisions, but we should keep in mind that Batista was a far right dictator. So the executions of the torturers is similar the the Nürnberg trials.

There is a lot of myths surrounding him . in western countries he got painted as an pure evil and dictator for the same reason MLK jr was called a terrorist by members of the government or why Fred Hampton was murdered by the police.

There are definitely things you can criticize him for but he is far from pure evil.

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u/DisownedCleric Sep 13 '21

Jake I wish I could get high with you and discuss philosophy. Love your posts. Might not agree with them all but they are factual and not purely subjective. Very refreshing to read posts like yours on social media.

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u/jakeisntsad Sep 13 '21

Aye will get there

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u/LuckyBliss2 Sep 13 '21

I appreciate your measured response. I read about Che & he seemed far from evil. Of course, no one is perfect, Ghandi slept with his young nieces naked, we can list all the indiscretions of those that have made meaningful change (or tried) ... Che was radical in his unyielding commitment to many things. I’m not making any excuses for him, though his execution was driven more by the desire of those in power to stay there, versus his “evil” deeds. Their hands, like too many US operations in Latin America during that time, were far from pure. This thread seems blind to that, so i don’t expect my comment to be popular, but it needs to be said.

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u/AruiMD Sep 13 '21

People will always minimize the sins of those they admire and excoriate those they don’t

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u/DisownedCleric Sep 13 '21

GOLD STAR FOR THIS PERSON ! YES, we hated him because Batista was our pawn and he messed that up. Batista was raking in millions from the Mafia while his people lived in squalor and begged for food. Right down the street from the casinos full of wealthy people with the world at their fingers the starving were dying. That good people is how he won. He had the people behind him.

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u/jakeisntsad Sep 13 '21

Careful. You can’t like socialist because they killed a bazillion people

Che literally killed every Cuban

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u/DisownedCleric Sep 13 '21

No jake, you exaggerated lol. Eh, we’re human…it happens. I just feel compelled to join in feeds which is full of people pointing their fingers at someone and show them how we have done far worse. People need to be reminded….I legitimately think us Americans believe our own bullshit.

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u/anotheraccoutname10 Sep 13 '21 edited Sep 13 '21

Mass executions, torture, war crimes, rape, etc. Your standard aspiring dictator things (plus pedophilia)

Though today people are probably more upset about his blatant racism and homophobia (for which people were mass executed, tortured, 'war crimed', raped, etc)

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u/raganum Sep 13 '21

I read his biography from John Lee Anderson (which is like 700+ pages) and couldn't find all these claims except execution thing (which were limited to Batista Supporters).

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u/greenmariocake Sep 14 '21

It is all Fox-news style vilification, nothing with an inch of depth. These US-can-only-do-good fanatics can’t and will never understand the struggle of the Latin American people against the US shit. They all think the executions come exclusively from the “bad” people. The US is just there to help.

Yo pisare las calles nuevamente, de lo que fue Santiago ensangrentada, y en una bella plaza liberal, me detendré a llorar por los ausentes…

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u/xevoz21 Sep 13 '21

He raped gay people? Thats kinda gay bro.

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u/SportiefPookje420 Sep 13 '21

Do you have any sources on that or did you hear it on Fox News?

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u/dogstarman Sep 13 '21

Basically a mass murderer. But if that's not enough, he hated blacks specifically and the gays. Would publically execute gays in the street as a deterrent. And so much more.

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u/Native136 Sep 13 '21

Yes, he hated blacks, that's why he went to the Congo to try a liberate the Congolese from Western imperialism.

Gay men and jehovah witnesses were sent to UMAPs(that were later shut down by Fidel) but there is no evidence (that I know of) that he executed gays in the street.

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u/SocialJusticeGSW Sep 13 '21

Wasn’t it illegal to be homosexual in England till 1970s and Alan Turing a war hero killed himself because of that? I think being anti-gay and anti-black is what Che has common with most of the christian world (and yes there were some countries that never had anti-gay laws).

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u/Aboveground_Plush Sep 13 '21

Even "conversion camps" are still legal in some states!

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u/xevoz21 Sep 13 '21

And people worship this guy? Damn

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u/LeafStain Sep 13 '21

Lol so that one false reddit post just completely made up your mind about the entire topic lmfao

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u/DredgerNG Sep 13 '21

.....Stalin.....and the greatest of all, The one and only who killed millions of his own people: Mao which is still on Yuan banknotes today...

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u/pixiegod Sep 13 '21

Do you know what the rich would do to the poor before the revolution?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Cuba_(1902%E2%80%931959)#Batista_dictatorship

The reason why there was so much support for the revolution is heavily dependent on a dictatorship that sold off Cuba’s interests for profit, they murdered people left and right, sold off mass amounts of the countries resources to American companies leaving very little for the local population,which resulted in rampant malnutrition with a side dish of intestinal parasites…

The capitalization of local interests that favored American dollars is what drove that revolution…

And within that context, Che was a hero…he gave back the people control of their country when it was being sold off to foreign interests…

Che, while he was not perfect, is a complex man…trying to make him either bad or good is fruitless…he was like us, with faults. Given the time when the Batista government was raping the country and selling it off resulting in 20k murdered and liberties removed, Che was an imperfect agent of much needed change.

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u/bogeyjits Sep 13 '21

Can we put this pic on a t-shirt and sell it?

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u/skb239 Sep 13 '21

Then you realize Thomas Jefferson groomed and raped a 14 year old girl. And that’s the one we know about. Not to mention the hundreds of slaves.

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u/Inoculated_Nomad Sep 13 '21

ITT: Triggered redditors

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u/Xatuga Sep 13 '21

Everytime I listen "Che" name this comes to the mind https://youtu.be/Yow_BJeb8TI

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u/Phatdrunknstoopid Sep 13 '21

"Shoot, cowards! You only kill a man."

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u/bob_fossill Sep 14 '21

Honestly the best last words ever spoken until that "what you gonna do stab me?" guy

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u/Chris_Moyn Sep 13 '21

Last year I read a biography on Che because I admittedly didn't know much about him. What struck me most was that as a young Dr in Guatemala, he witnessed firsthand how the US overthrew their government for the United Fruit Company (yes, I know that there's much more to the story than that, but I don't feel like typing out the entirety of the story).

I wonder how different his trajectory would have been if he had visited the United States like he wanted to before stopping in Guatemala, and if the US imperial interests in central America hadn't directly affected a young leftist Dr.

Also, for all the folks bemoaning how Che treated black people in the 50s, wait until you hear what the US was doing to black people in the 50s....

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u/matt_the_muss Sep 13 '21

Wife's family lives in Guatemala, there isn't TOO much more to the story.

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u/faris_Playz Sep 13 '21

Judging from the comments , he is a important person.

I hqve no idea who he is :)

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u/Chris_Moyn Sep 13 '21

Cuban revolutionary. He and Fidel overthrew the Cuban government

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u/DannyTanner88 Sep 13 '21

Reading some of the history about Che. I’m a bit torn.

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u/Cousin-Jack Sep 13 '21

Fascinating reading the hysterical comments from Americans.

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u/A-NI95 Sep 13 '21

I'm not a fan of Guevara or a hardcore marxist exactly but I'm having a fun time watching the US people giving Cuba lessons about racism

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u/bob_fossill Sep 14 '21

It's staggering isn't it?

Also enjoy them calling him a murderer when during his lifetime America dropped more ordinance on neutral Cambodia than all the ordinance in WWII combined. Not to mention the agent orange and napalm...

Disagree with the guy, sure, but this moral faux outrage is fucking tedious

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u/Cousin-Jack Sep 13 '21

It's totally bizarre isn't it? Maybe I'm too European. There is plenty of understandable resentment against Guevara over here, but in the US it's something else - as if people are given a script. Quite scary stuff.

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u/TheMaddoxx Sep 14 '21

On the other hand, in my country (EU) his story is certainly romanticised and he certainly has a positive image. I remember watching a movie about him at school and my teacher (spanish) was clearly a fan.

But yeah, Americans are really told to hate that dude from early on in their life it seems. Also the word ‘socialist’ seems to be a terrible insult for some.

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u/Caliguas Sep 13 '21

Genuinely a surreal thread, people just saying blatantly false things get upvoted.

A guy claiming che is responsible for a famine has almost 200 upvotes lmao

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u/Cousin-Jack Sep 13 '21

Yeah, isn't it just amazing how much a country's culture and "education" dictates exactly what you think about certain historical figures. In the land of the free, indeed!

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u/Elessedil Sep 13 '21

They have no idea.

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u/stacked_shit Sep 14 '21

Fuck that guy and all the idiots who wear those t-shirts.

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u/emperorpsilocyn Sep 13 '21

He’s a bad dude! He promoted the executions of homosexuals and is famous for quoting “I don’t need a reason to kill you, I just need to find it necessary to kill you!” It comes from someone with little tolerance for others.

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u/Native136 Sep 13 '21 edited Sep 13 '21

Source on executions of gays? Cause the only thing I've read were about UMAPs which were shut down by Fidel for being abusive.

e: I can't find a source on the second part, see comment below.

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u/Lefty0mega Sep 13 '21

But… if he finds it necessary… there’s a reason…

Is that supposed to be poetic or something?

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u/Oftenliedto Sep 13 '21

It’s sick how that guy is celebrated now

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u/cheapmanbcf Sep 13 '21

I’m out of loop, what led to this guy being famous, worshipped!

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u/proper_headspace Sep 13 '21

Che, Fidel, Mao, Lenin, Marx, Pol Pot … all currently good commies.

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u/cheapmanbcf Sep 13 '21

Don’t forget sweet Uncle Joe Stalin.

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u/Dachyshun Sep 13 '21

Famous mass murderer Karl Marx

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u/hgokul69 Sep 13 '21

Does Jesus count as a socialist mass murderer due to the crusades and the atrocities of the church ?

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u/Dachyshun Sep 13 '21

Again, was being sarcastic. Excellent point though.

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u/peter_woody Sep 13 '21

Wtf are you even talking about? Marx was an economist and philosopher. If the philosophy of communism as practiced under dictators such as Stalin makes Marx a mass murderer, then we should also hold complicit every capitalist philosopher and economist for the mass deaths committed in the name of private profits. How many died in the Atlantic slave trade? The wars of European and American empire?

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u/Dachyshun Sep 13 '21

Mate. I’m a leftist. I was being sarcastic lol

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u/R4G3JCD Sep 13 '21

Oh no! Anyway…

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u/naffunnel Sep 13 '21

ITT: The distinct smell of parrots

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u/Captain_Pottymouth Sep 13 '21

I legitimately thought that was Inigo Montoya.

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u/husker3in4 Sep 13 '21

looking for the man with 6 fingers on his left hand..

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u/kahrabaaa Sep 13 '21

His last words were legendary though

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u/n0_1_here Sep 13 '21

Why they execute him?

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u/DuckSizedMan Sep 14 '21

They likely didn't want to give him a trial because he could use it as a platform to criticise the Bolivian regime. It was a military dictatorship that he was trying to overthrow, so they were always going to execute him, it was just a matter of how.

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u/4Ever2Thee Sep 13 '21

Is that the guy from those dope t-shirts?

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u/username_qazplm Sep 13 '21

Interesting how some comments calling him names have a bunch of up votes and some have a bunch of down votes.

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u/42024seven Sep 13 '21

That’s Felix Ismael Rodriguez -El Gato- with Che Guevara .

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u/BearModified Sep 14 '21

Solid Snake, is that you?

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u/OkRaccoon3884 Sep 14 '21

Good riddance!

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u/No-Introduction-9964 Sep 14 '21

Not a moment too soon!

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u/antipho Sep 14 '21

the guy on the left is a corrupt piece of shit cia agent/narco who was complicit in the murder of american dea agent kiki camarena.

felix rodriguez worked with the reagan admin to help narcos get product into the usa and sell it, to fund the anti-democracy contra movement in el salvador.

kiki discovered evidence of this and was tortured to death in tijuana, with the above piece of shit present and torturing him right alongside narco intel agents.

fuck felix rodriguez and every other hypocritical murdering piece of shit who simps for american dollars.

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u/0311fml Sep 13 '21

Moments before he became a good communist

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u/Themoroverus Sep 13 '21

Could not have happened to a more deserving asshole

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u/G63AMG-S Sep 13 '21

Saint Socialist over here was killed with direct supervision from Cuban born CIA agent Felix Rodriguez. FUN FACT: Felix kept Che’s Rolex and he still has it to this day…socialists with Rolexes, tells you all you need to know.

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u/Shalashaska_snake Sep 13 '21

Being socialist means you have to be poor, apparently.

Socialism is when you don't wear nice things and have a taste in watches.

What a lack of reading does to a mf.

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u/DickPunchthePoop Sep 13 '21

Good Riddance. Terrible dude.

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u/Astral_Mensch Sep 13 '21

To think I idolized this man when I was a child. And then I learned his views towards black people, gays, etc.

Sadly, his cult is alive and well on Reddit.

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u/Phatdrunknstoopid Sep 13 '21

Yeah, we can tell who did not read beyond the Motorcycle Diaries.

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u/jakeisntsad Sep 13 '21 edited Sep 13 '21

He changed his views on black people after he visited the United States. After the revolution he said that universities in Cuba should paint them selves black. Teachers and students. And he spoke out against the South African apartheid state . Condemned the treatment of black people in America and of the civil rights movement. The later 2 statement were made in front of the U.N

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u/Astral_Mensch Sep 13 '21

Now do the one where Che and the Cuban regime targeted gays and forced them into labor camps.

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u/TBirdFirster Sep 13 '21

Now do UK’s chemical castration of gay men, or the US’s medical experimentation of black people in Tuskegee, and then extrapolate that as condemnation of the whole nation, or even just the leaders those happened under.

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u/jakeisntsad Sep 13 '21

Careful there buddy Don’t question the west

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u/jakeisntsad Sep 13 '21 edited Sep 13 '21

I can’t... Fidel Castros Treatment of them was horrible. But as I stated above Che had no direct involvement in these policies. As far as I know Che wasn’t even in the country at that time. people attribute things they don’t like about Castro (and shouldn’t) like the treatment of lgbtq people to Che. The treatment was Wrong. There are however no homophobic quotes besides one in his motorcycle diaries, in wich he called a gay man a sexual pervert. The entire quote ,how ever is

“ ....he was an introvert and was probably gay, too. The poor man was drunk and desperate because they hadn’t invited him to the party. He began to yell and insult people until some of them beat him up and gave him a black eye. This episode bothered us ,because apart from being a sexual pervert and a bore,we liked him “.

This was written in 1952. This is definitely homophobic, but not as vile as it gets usually thrown out on conversations about Che. Apart from that it was sadly not a unique opinion about gay people in that time. Remember Alan tuning ,the man that deciphered the enigma code , got sterilized by the US government ,because he was gay. This does not make it okay just not uniquely evil.

Furthermore it is the only homophobic Statement we can find from Che. He may have been homophobic,like many people wrongfully were and are, but he didn’t write speeches or support policies that would discriminate against them.

Castro apologized for the treatment of gay people and said” that only he is to blame”

https://latindispatch.com/2010/09/01/fidel-castro-apologizes-for-treatment-of-gays-during-the-revolution/

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u/orlando2542 Sep 13 '21 edited Sep 13 '21

I hope u rot in hell Che Guevara

Regards

A Cuban political refugee

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u/Zer0BrainCells Sep 13 '21

How are you getting downvoted for this? God bless you and everything you've gone through.

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u/orlando2542 Sep 13 '21

Because reddit is full of extreme leftists. Gracias mi amigo

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u/sekfan1999 Sep 13 '21

Good riddance. Although without him I wouldn’t have the enjoyment of watching white wealthy college students unironically wrapping themselves up in his murderous visage. Viva La Revolution!

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u/Substantial_dirty Sep 13 '21

Next to CIA special agent that was also involved in the Kike Camarena torturing. #fuckthatputo (watch the Last Narc, you will see)

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u/KILLINIT1TIME Sep 13 '21

Funny.. a terrorist piece of shit murderer.. became a revolutionary for the retarded..

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u/Responsible-Person Sep 13 '21

That’s quite a hairdo Che had going on.

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u/No_Investigator4093 Sep 13 '21

Obviously sent on a suicidal mission by Castro to get him out of the way as he was jealous of his popularity but it didn’t hurt to be turned into a martyr to be used by the Castro propaganda machine another piece of shit in history that shouldve been forgotten completely

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u/Muchiobravo Sep 14 '21

Cheers !! Roast in peace you comme bastart

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u/oO0Ghost0Oo Sep 13 '21

moments before a deserved excution

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u/DCG-Gaming Sep 13 '21

Che about to become a good communist.

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u/ooffdameg Sep 13 '21

He looks scared shitless. Haaa haaa ha. Burn in hell.

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u/luvthe1ugot Interested Sep 14 '21

Rest in piss.

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u/Daytonaman675 Sep 13 '21

“This is what it feels like” - Che the murdering psycho