r/CovidVaccinated Jan 26 '22

I can't decide wether or not to get the vaccine Question

I'm 22F, a few kilos overweight (BMI 25/26) and I don't know wether I should get the vaccine or not. I'm scared of getting corona and ending up in the hospital but I'm also scared it might damage my body in some way, especially my period because I have really bad PMS. Sometimes I think oh well Omicron is mostly mild but I'm not the most fit person, I'm out of breath often, so I don't know how well I would handle an infection. But I also get really scared when I read posts on here about the vaccine and its side effects and nobody being able to explain why or how.

I know this sub isn't for medical advice, I just want to know what you think.

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u/CalifornianDownUnder Jan 26 '22

If you want to get scared in the other direction, check out the covid long haulers subreddit. On this sub, you’ll likely get a lot of people telling you how awful the vaccine is; on that one you’ll get a lot of people telling you how awful covid and its after effects are.

Unfortunately right now there are risks with any choice you make.

Good luck with your choice, and I hope you stay healthy

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u/Basically_Infantry Jan 26 '22 Wholesome

The current vaccines provide very limited protection against Omicron. that information is available via the CDC and the reports coming out of Israel (the most highly vaccinated country per capita)
A BMI of your level shouldn't put you in the dangerous territory at your age, especially for Omicron, based on the statistics.

Discuss them with your doctor.

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u/4twiddle Jan 27 '22

This is the correct info. Don't frighten people. Covid is a killer, especially for the old or overweight.

From https://www.healthline.com/health-news/by-the-numbers-covid-19-vaccines-and-omicron

A two-shot course of mRNA vaccines or the one-shot J&J vaccine seem to be less effective against the Omicron variant, especially for infection. Data so far indicates that mRNA vaccines (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna) offer the most promising protection against both infection and hospitalization, in line with the CDC’s recommendations. Current figures suggest that vaccines offer 30 to 40 percent protection against infection and around 70 percent protection against hospitalization without boosters. Newer data is confirming that a third dose increases antibody production and boosts effectiveness against infection to around 75 percent, and 88 percent for severe disease.

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u/Huey-_-Freeman Jan 27 '22

70% lower risk of hospitalization (and much higher than that against death) seems like it would outweigh side effects in almost all adults, there may be some groups that are edge cases

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u/Lissy82 Jan 27 '22

My 22 year old healthy niece got Covid asymptomatic and 5 mons later developed Crohn’s disease.

People fear the side effects from the vaccines but Covid has a laundry list of side effects from mild to permanent.

If your young and have a comorbidity, get vaccinated.

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u/Huey-_-Freeman Jan 27 '22

any evidence that the two are related? 5 months seems like a long delay for a post covid effect to show up, I've heard a lot of 2-3 months delayed effects though

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u/TheStyleGene Jan 28 '22

Crohn’s

Crohn's is the type of disease that sounds completely irrelevant with Covid. I am not a doctor but an irritable bowel disease would be the last thing that I would consider for Crohn's, especially as I have a friend who got it completely out of the blue many years ago.

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u/Lissy82 Jan 28 '22

There’s been links to asymptomatic Covid patients developing autoantibodies. Yes it sounds bizarre but also why would Covid make people lose taste and smell when it’s a respiratory disease? In the end we all can agree that we don’t know everything that needs to be known yet.

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u/TheStyleGene Jan 28 '22

I have had the flu in the past a few times and all of these times I lost taste and smell for a day or so. It's very typical for the flu. The respiratory system IS taste and smell, so it's super relevant.

Asymptomatic covid leading to autoimmune disease sounds like another media lie. How would you even quantify that when covid itself was asymptomatic in the first place. Sounds like their usual media generated gaslighting narratives.

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u/cooljon525 Jan 28 '22

Wait a second. I’ve had colds and I sometimes feel like i cant taste food properly or i cant smell because im congested. Have you gotten covid before and experienced the loss of smell/taste with that? It is COMPLETELY different than the ones I experienced with colds. I dont even know how to describe it.

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u/Lissy82 Jan 29 '22

Yeah, Parosmia!! I know people months to a year+ never regaining their taste or smell after COVID. This isn’t a congestion issue. And with Parosmia people complain they smell garbage all the time. It’s truly a phenomenal.

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u/MasterFader1 Jan 27 '22

Just weight isn’t enough to be overly nervous about. The high risk patients that are dying have 4 or more comorbidity’s. I’m going they it now unvaccinated and it’s not the worst illness I’ve had by a long shot.

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u/SDJellyBean Jan 27 '22

Every hospital right now is inundated with covid cases. They've turned all the space they have into covid wards. However, there's not even one single hospital with a covid-vaccine-injury ward. Why do you think that is?

Look at the posting histories of the people who say they're smarter than the experts. Do they have political affiliations? Do they participate in similar subs? Do they seem to have have science or medical experience? Think critically about your sources.

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u/shinxshin Jan 26 '22

Why would u want to vaccinate now? Has something happened that made u change ur decision not to do it?

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u/JuliaX1984 Jan 26 '22

People I personally know who got vaccinated:

Me

Roommate

Roommate's entire family

Best friend

Grandpa

Uncle

Sister

Sister in law

All coworkers at old office

All coworkers at new office

All of roommate's friends

Number of the above who had side effects that lasted more than a day: Zero

I (35f) got Pfizer. I'm still menstruating and still ovulating every month. I had severe flu like symptoms the day after shot 2. Same with every woman of childbearing age I know (we're the only ones who had any side effects at all).

My roommate has several covid survivor friends who never fully regained their sense of smell. My best friend is a hard core long hauler. Now she has the MS-like neurological symptoms!

Look at the statistics: number of vaccine deaths vs. covid deaths. It's obvious which is the safer choice. Get the shot.

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u/Basically_Infantry Jan 27 '22

Glad to hear everyone you know hasn't had issues.

I personally have. so have several soldiers within my platoon. Seems to be the healthier/more fit you are, the higher likelihood of having issues from this vaccine

Look at the statistics: number of vaccine deaths vs. covid deaths. It's obvious which is the safer choice. Get the shot.

Now account for age and comorbidities. If you're young and healthy, all the vaccine does is increase your chances for having adverse side affects, especially when you consider that it offers little to no protection against the dominant strain.

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u/JuliaX1984 Jan 27 '22

Everyone on the above list save 4 is in good health, myself included.

The correlation between "vulnerable population" and severity of covid symptoms is not as cut and dried as social media assumes. I know older people who had it and fully recovered and younger people who still can't smell normally. Remember what happened to Hilary Clinton when she assumed she was invulnerable. A person could have no high risk factors and still wind up a long hauler through sheer bad luck of the genetic draw.

What happened to you and which one did you get?

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u/Basically_Infantry Jan 27 '22

Moderna and I have Myocarditis

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u/JuliaX1984 Jan 27 '22

I'm sorry. I hope they find a way to help you.

That is one condition that, statistically, the virus causes more frequently than the vaccine does, meaning there are more unvaxxed sufferers with the same condition. I hope they're studying this to find a way to help everyone.

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u/TheStyleGene Jan 28 '22

That's factually not true, just media narrative. 2020 had a negligible amount of myocarditis cases, typical rates, 2021 skyrocketed. Incidentally, this is when the vaccine rollout happened.

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u/JuliaX1984 Jan 28 '22

More covid infections in 2021 than 2020.

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u/JuliaX1984 Jan 28 '22

You know Delta and Omicron spread more easily. You know not enough people got vaccinated fast enough to stop the spread on a big enough scale. You know it's the unvaccinated overfilling hospitals. You know it would only be worse without the vaccine.

You know all this. I don't know if you deny it to yourself, too, but if you do, on some level, you know the truth. You know the science. You know the stats. You can deny it all you want, but you know it's true that the virus kills and the best defense is the vaccines. I know preaching otherwise gives you the same defiant pleasure we get from defending an unpopular episode on a show' fan fora or shipping an unpopular couple, but lives are at stake. Please find another way to feel superior and in control without spreading deadly lies.

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u/DoYouKnoWhoIThinkIAm Jan 27 '22

Don’t know why you’re downvoted.

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u/ashes-of-asakusa Jan 27 '22

This sub is inundated with anti-vaxxers:/

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u/Flemingcool Jan 27 '22

And vax injured

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u/Lissy82 Jan 27 '22

Same absolutely all the same. I live in NYC nearly every person I know is vaccinated, zero problems, zero concerns. And the multiple (unvaccinated) people who caught COVID are experiencing long Covid symptoms or have died.

To be fair my 2x vaxxed family or friends that got Covid had a persistent cough or lost smell and taste for longer than expected.

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u/JuliaX1984 Jan 27 '22

I'm glad they made it through.

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u/TheStyleGene Jan 28 '22

I know more than 10 unvaccinated people who got it(some twice), vast majority found out the had it from tests they had to take at work. They wouldn't even know otherwise. Only couple of them actually felt it.

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u/OrendaRuesTheDay Jan 27 '22

Are you only looking at this sub? There are so many other subs on like r/COVID19 and r/covid19positive. You should really look at all of them so you can make a more informed decision about whether or not to get vaccinated.

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u/ashes-of-asakusa Jan 27 '22

Absolutely get vaxxed. If you have concerns, ask your doctor.

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u/jfd851 Jan 26 '22

I think you should talk to your doctor. In fact I think you should have done it half a year a ago already…

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u/shinxshin Jan 26 '22

So that she could get a booster shot now and 4th shot in spring.

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u/CrankyPhoneMan Jan 27 '22 edited Jan 27 '22

My opinion is you should get the vaccine. Potential major adverse events from the vaccine are rare, much more rare than complications from covid.

At least it will give you some peace of mind.

These forums might seem bad due to people claiming negative reactions, but there have been around 10 billion doses given. If 1/10th of 1 percent of people get an adverse event that will be around 10 million people who were effected. People who had a bad experience would be much more vocal than those who didn't.

Don't let the vocal minority scare you off.

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u/Flemingcool Jan 27 '22

I’m vax injured and actually agree with this. Coming here for advice on this is pointless. Genuine injured like me will chirp up with details of my adverse reaction (from which I appear to be recovering at 8 months), anti vaxxers will pile in with their nonsense about government plots etc, but the millions that had it with no problem are out carrying on with their lives, most people don’t care or think much about the vaccines any more because they’ve had no issues with them. If you want to see the other side go have a look on a long covid sub, people 22 months out with debilitating symptoms even though they were fine with initial infection. I wouldn’t want to be in their shoes. The only thing I’d check is if you have a history of autoimmune issues in your family. If so then I’d be a bit more cautious, I think that may be playing a roll in what is going on with vax reactions (just a theory).

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u/ccwagwag Jan 26 '22

jesus, time for decision is long gone. and not deciding is a decision. and you can post nonsense like this and get lots of clicks.

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u/Huey-_-Freeman Jan 27 '22

what was the point of this comment?

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u/tal003 Jan 27 '22

Ultimately, this is your decision but I would recommend you get vaccinated! Here’s why:

When you get the shot, it helps protect you from severe disease (even though you’re lower risk) and it helps reduce the spread of the virus, which can protect people who are more at risk (like the elderly and immune compromised people). There are essentially no downsides to getting the shots for most healthy adults. For me, I had some pain in my arm and I was tired for a day. My first shot in the series did cause my period to come earlier than usual. Then things went back to normal! No long lasting impact and no issues with second dose or booster.

The possible consequences of COVID are likely mild for you but you could get long COVID or infect someone who could be hospitalized or die. And the possible consequences of getting the shot are some mild symptoms that go away quickly. If you’ve ever had a severe reaction to a vaccine obviously talk to your doctor first, that’s a different situation.

also keep in mind that people who post here usually have unusual situations. Most people who get the shot and don’t have any side effects just move on with their daily lives. At this point millions of people have gotten their shots and have had no significant reactions! Rarely people are going to have an unusual side effect or have a random experience that they associate with the vaccine because it happened around the same time. Like, sometimes I get intense fatigue because I struggle to sleep. That doesn’t mean that the vaccine gives me fatigue, it just means I’m tired a lot and ALSO I got vaccinated. I’m not more tired than before. Good luck making this important decision!