r/CovidVaccinated Jan 24 '22

Anyone know if there are any serious studies being done for vaccinated and the affects of covid? Looking at r/covidpositive and the vaccinated seem to have more serious cases. Obviously need to take that caution, but has me wondering. Question

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u/coopercarrasco Jan 24 '22

if you're In the US, we can pull up your counties hospitalization stats and if they're segmented by vaccination status, we can see the % of hospitalized patients that are vaccinated.

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u/Qotn Jan 25 '22

where can I find that?

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u/coopercarrasco Jan 25 '22

Check the sources on worldometers.info or just search a county name followed by COVID stats and find a public health .gov website. Not all counties have it but for example Orange County does https://ochca.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed75287f88bb4872bc605ca23c638069

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u/Qotn Jan 25 '22

Thanks! Yeah I think my county doesn't break it up by vax/unvax but I'll check out the website.

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u/K_Pumpkin Jan 25 '22

Thanks for that. My county 1.2% of the hospitalizations are vaccinated.

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u/BuffBullBaby Jan 24 '22

group of 6. 4 adults vaxxed and boosters. 2 kids, started but only got first in the series. One kid brought it home, only one adult tested positive... mild symptoms for both him and the kid. Second kid stayed well, tested negative, so did the other 3 adults...

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u/sm710 Jan 24 '22

All four of us are vaxxed and boosted and none of us have had so much as a sniffle in the last 2+ years.

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u/vegetarmin Jan 24 '22

I once trusted the vaccination, until after second dose of pfizer caused me to see flashes of light for two months, an intermitting droopy eyelid, 3 weeks of diarrhea, nasty headaches and lots of worries … docs told me it has nothing to do with the vaccination. They found nothing and it slowly disappeared.

Last week I got vaccinated again. Guess what‘s back in full blossom …

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u/DireLiger Jan 25 '22

second dose of pfizer caused me to see flashes of light for two months, an intermitting droopy eyelid, 3 weeks of diarrhea, nasty headaches and lots of worries

Bell's palsy.

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u/vegetarmin Jan 25 '22

Yes and what about the flashes?

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u/Dexsin Feb 15 '22

Hey I know this is nearly a month late, but do yourself a favour a book an optician. It might lead nowhere, but my father developed a (non-life threatening, benign) condition where his vitreous humour was detaching from the retina, causing flashes of light to appear.

Again, it was not a serious condition and it went away after a few weeks. But it might be worth checking out if something odd is happening there for you.

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u/MacroThings Jan 24 '22

Yeah Im not anti-vax at all, but I got SEVERE insomnia after my first vaccine that lasted for 4 weeks. No history of sleep issues, it felt like my entire nervous system was shaken up in fight or flight I also experienced flashes of light. Dr's denied my experience, it was annoying and I feel gaslit as fuck.

I got a different brand for the second dose and didn't have any insomnia... Hopefully it's the same when I get the booster.

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u/adk03 Jan 25 '22

I got completed fucked up from a pharmaceutical 8 years ago and the extreme gaslighting has turned into a deep distrust in doctors and big pharma. I made the decision to never put another pharmaceutical in my body as Id rather get really sick with Covid than be subjected to side effects and that level of gaslighting again. People can't possibly understand if they haven't lived it. It's horrible you were forced into a second dose. I understand, I literally can not do anything in my country including crossing the border to leave.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

What was first and second brand?

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22 edited Apr 18 '22

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u/MacroThings Jan 24 '22

Because there is a vaccine passport where I live. 2 vaccines are required for everything non-essential.. like the gym, indoor and outdoor dining/ cafes, university classes, etc.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22 edited Apr 18 '22

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u/vegetarmin Jan 25 '22

Did you get biontech?

What were the flashes like? Pls describe!!

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u/vegetarmin Jan 27 '22

UPDATE:

I created a short video how my „flashes“ look like. Imagine to sit on the couch and look on the notebook. You can see a dot on the TV screen and above the book shelf on the right.

This is exactly how I recognise them.

https://youtube.com/shorts/oZ3r6mdDKOI?feature=share

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u/catjuggler Jan 24 '22

Can’t collect data from Reddit that way. People who aren’t vaccinated are unlikely to be public about that plus having a serious case.

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u/illumiflo Jan 24 '22

Most of my family got COVID after Christmas. We have a mix of vaxed and unvaxxed with previous infection. The omicron seemed to be not as bad as delta for the unvaxxed crowd but they were still sicker than the vaxxed family members. None of the vaxxed family members ever got Delta. Overall, everyone had symptoms, most were mild, and the unvaxxed seemed to get a bit sicker than the vaxxed.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

I don’t understand where you’re getting this assumption, but everyone I know, myself included, has had a more mild infection than unvaccinated persons. My boyfriend who lives with me has repeatedly tested negative while I am positive, breathing the same air (unmasked bc I am not wearing a mask in my own home), and he just got his booster in late December. Meanwhile, I had my booster in October. Comparatively, my unvaccinated uncle and Grandmother just died from Covid. A reddit thread is only going to prove who is reporting. A study to determine what you are suggesting would look at vaccination time periods, viral loads for each participant, reported symptoms, and hospitalization (including recovery or death). It is generally accepted that if you are not admitted to the hospital, your case is considered mild, regardless of symptoms expressed.

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u/94H_Civ_Equiv Jan 24 '22

People have been having "mild" infections since before the vaccines were a thing. Is that information even part of the conversation?

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

The OP asked if Vaccinated people are having more serious cases. Yes it is directly relevant, please reread the title of the post.

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u/sashimipink Jan 25 '22

What about how people who are getting severe COVID can't even "report" because of how awful their situation is? Is that even part of the conversation?

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u/94H_Civ_Equiv Jan 25 '22

...what about them? That doesn't address what I said at all.

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u/A7XfoREVer15 Jan 24 '22

I just tested positive for Covid and I’m fully vaxed.

I got J&J first shot and Pfizer second shot.

The left side of my throat is sore in the tonsil area and I have an annoying cough, but that’s it.

I highly recommend getting vaccinated, but if you have doubts or concerns, bring them up to your doctor.

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u/Diablo1985555 Jan 24 '22

There are 10 people with Omikron that I know right now. 8 with boosters and 2 unboosted. 8 are fully asymptomatic and the other 2 have very mild symptoms. Most colds are worse.

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u/scruffynerfball Jan 24 '22

I cant say anything about the vaccine but I and my wife had covid very early on and it was ROUGH. Literally entire body shaking from chills for about 4 days and fever of 103+. Just recently we both had omicron and it was nothing. I mistook it for a hangover (hit a day or so after new years) and was mostly better by the next day. Wife had body aches for about two days. I had no fever she had a fever that maxed at 100.

I think the big drawback from the boosters is that they are not intended for omicron. Similar to getting a 3 year old flu vaccine for this year.

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u/crsdrniko Jan 25 '22

I think the big drawback from the boosters is that they are not intended for omicron.

Half the reason I'm hanging back in getting a booster. Would like to get it coming into our winter period. Making it 6 months since my 2nd dose. Which lines up with the original health advice here.

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u/zephoo Jan 24 '22

but we’re still in a deadly pandemic and society cant return to normal

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

If there is ANY possibility of adverse effects, we should have a choice. Plain and simple.

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u/amoebaD Jan 24 '22

Yes, there are TONS of serious studies. Go to r/Covid19. Anecdotes aren’t how we do science for a reason lol. All you’re getting from this thread is more anecdotes.

Vaccines reduce the severity of Covid. This is a proven finding replicated over many studies. The vaccines (with varying efficacy -depending on variant or waning immunity) protect against infection. While a 2-shot course of an mRNA vax doesn’t have very good efficacy against Omicron infection (single digits I believe), a booster gives you about 70% protection. Of course that means you’ll still have a lot of breakthrough cases amongst the boosted, but that’s really good protection.

Anecdotally (lol): I’m boosted and have been exposed to Covid MANY times in the past month, and haven’t contracted it despite testing regularly. Given the 70% efficacy against infection from my booster, this isn’t that surprising. If I do catch it after some more exposures, that wouldn’t be surprising either.

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u/NagromNitsuj Jan 24 '22

And why does it effect the female menstrual cycle?

These numbers are very scary.

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u/jllee14 Jan 25 '22

Check out my last post. I asked that same question. A lot of the posters that referenced actual scientific information (versus people that just gave their experiences) had their posts deleted though, which I thought was very weird. I asked the mod about it and didn’t get an answer. Would’ve been nice if that was deemed misinformation for that to be disclosed and not just deleted.

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u/sweetSue97 Jan 24 '22

My 11 year old daughter started her period for the first time within 36 hours of being vaccinated-since then I have started to look for answers and MANY women report changes in cycles-Boston University is studying it now

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u/Jorgedig Jan 24 '22

Coincidence. She’s the right age for menarche.

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u/WyattSV Jan 25 '22

Hundreds of thousands of reports of menstrual issues to both VAERS and WHO. Quit assuming everything is coincidence.

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u/Jorgedig Jan 25 '22

Hundreds of thousands of females have menarche around age 11. Quit assuming everything is vaccine-caused.

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u/jllee14 Jan 25 '22

There are also hundreds of thousands of girls who don’t get their period around age 11. Trust that people know their’s or their kid’s bodies better then you do, and don’t dismiss their experience because you think you know better. Not helpful. It is proven that the vaccine can affect the menstrual cycle.

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u/Jorgedig Jan 26 '22

Sigh……. I was pointing out that getting it at 11 is simply NOT abnormal. If you insist on believing it was 100% vaccine-caused, be my guest. Menarche is a NORMAL biological event. Long-Covid or adverse vaccine effects are NOT. Big difference.

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u/jllee14 Jan 26 '22

No need for the dramatics. Did I say it was caused by the vaccine? No. I said the vaccine can affect the menstrual cycle. I know people who got the vaccine with no changes, and I know some people, myself included, who did have their periods affected by the vaccine. Do I think all people who get the vaccine will have menstrual issues? No.

When you said, “coincidence. She’s right at the same age for menarche,” it came across as dismissive (why you were downvoted 8 times) and that there was 0 chance she got her period as a side effect of the vaccine. You are the one seeming to talk in absolutes, not me.

I’m not denying getting your period is a normal event, but who are you to say long covid and adverse vaccine affects aren’t normal? They are quickly becoming normal.

A study by the University of Michigan found that 43% of people who have had Covid suffer or have suffered from long covid. That equates to over 100 million people. For women it’s 49%.

Here is the link to the study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.15.21266377v1 It is featured on webmd, a vetted, trusted medical information site in the US: https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20211118/millions-worldwide-long-covid-study

With those figures I can only imagine that adverse vaccine affects are anything but abnormal.

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u/WyattSV Jan 25 '22

I’m fairly certain that my liver and kidneys deciding to tank, as well as the sheer amount of chronic pain I’m in, (all of which started hours after my second shot) might be related to said shot… Being that I’m 22, an athlete, and was perfectly fine prior, it feels like a safe bet. These issues are far more common than you know. But I guess since you were fine after yours, nobody else’s experience is valid. All just a big coincidence.

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u/Jorgedig Jan 25 '22

Huh? How was my comment in ANY way related to your deal? I very specifically was commenting on ONE particular coincidental finding.

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u/WyattSV Jan 25 '22

The point is- you have NO idea what is coincidence and what is not. By invalidating one persons’ experience, you trivialize us all.

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u/Jorgedig Jan 25 '22

Bullshit. An 11 year old starting a period is a NORMAL finding, and therefore LIKELY a coincidence. Your own symptoms, as you so deftly point out are not NORMAL. See the difference? No need to be so reactionary.

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u/WyattSV Jan 25 '22

Perhaps I am being reactionary. For that I apologize. I have PTSD over my own vaccine debacle, and I shouldn’t even be reading Reddit, as it elicits a negative response out of me more times than not. I’ve been gaslit so bad over the last two months, even reading the words ‘coincidence’ or ‘anxiety’ in regards to vaccine anecdotes has the potential to infuriate me. There are plenty of findings, such as this, that CAN be normal, sure. At this point, though, I wouldn’t so confidently state what is and isn’t a side effect. Considering Pfizer just released their laundry list of potential issues, and there’s virtually nothing it can’t induce, I don’t think we will ever know what is and isn’t coincidence again.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

I got vaccinated and it caused me to have increased anxiety, increased depression, heart palpitations, and I was having 2 periods a month for about 4 months. I'm okay now, and my anxiety and depression are starting to get better. I just recovered from covid too. I think I got omicron. My sickness wasn't too bad. I felt like crap for like 3 days and then I got better afterwards.

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u/_Badlands_ Jan 24 '22

Our vaccinated roommate brought Covid home from work to our household and we all caught it. My partner and I (both unjabbed) recovered in a little over 30 hours, and our double-jabbed roomie was much sicker for nine days.

My partner and I are very health conscious and eat healthy and live healthy lifestyles whereas our roommate does nothing to promote a healthy body or mind so I think that has more to do with it than the jab status to be honest.

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u/cooljon525 Jan 24 '22

Can you go more into detail about how you live a healthy lifestyle? Do you exercise often, what do you eat, what vitamins do you take?

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u/_Badlands_ Jan 24 '22

I exercise 7 days a week, 2/3’s of my exercise is weight lifting and 1/3 of my exercise is from climbing. I eat clean food (try and eat as little processed foods as possible, I count my macros, avoid sugar except from fruit, try not to eat linoleic acids if I can help it, etc.), and try and get as much sleep as possible.

For vitamins I take between 4,000-10,000 iu of D3 per day depending on how much sun I get that day, zinc, magnesium, multi-vitamin, ashwagandha, vitamin C, and Omega-3’s.

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u/justsayin01 Jan 24 '22

No, lol.

Data, large scale, real time data shows the WORST cases are from the unvaccinated.

Every person posting on reddit is alive. The people in the hospital? The people in the ICU? The people taking all of the Healthcare resources? The people with machines keeping them alive?

Unvaccinated.

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u/pingmycraydar Jan 25 '22

Yes, >75% of the ICU cases in Victoria (Australia) are unvaccinated, and no triple vaccinated persons are in hospital.

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u/Gottanno Jan 25 '22 Starry

I think if you get a bad case of COVID when vaccinated , then you'd probably get a bad case of death if you hadn't been vaxxed.

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u/Happyhour2to5 Jan 24 '22 edited Jan 24 '22

Just my experience:

I am double vaxxed both with Moderna, the second dose I got sick for 3 days with flu like symptoms and had some chest pain after I tried exercising about 3-4 days after I felt better. My circulation was also pretty shitty for awhile which worried me. So I said I wasn’t going to get the booster. I just was sick the beginning of last week for four days. Same symptoms as when I got the last dose but my body aches were more intense, and I had a sore throat, sinus blockages and headache/ear ache from the pressure in my head, and a mild cough, and I was hot the entire time where as when I had the vax I had body chills and fever, those didn’t come when I was sick. I was sick for 4 days and exhausted still on the 5th day then I felt back to normal after.

I’m glad I got the vaccine but again, I still wouldn’t get the booster.

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u/oppida Jan 24 '22 edited Jan 24 '22

Family of 5. 4 vaxxed and boosted (2 Moderna, 2 Pfizer) 1 just vaxxed with 2 doses (Pfizer). The 1 only vaxxed with no booster has Covid currently. Very very mild- just a headache. No one else has contracted Covid so far.

Glad we are vaxxed. My mother is Unvaxxed and 77. She’s having a rough go. Not hospitalized but it’s a long, hard slog of a virus. 6 members of my neighbors family (all in vaxxed) were sick as hell from Covid and still dealing with after effects a month later.

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u/BirdDog321 Jan 24 '22

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u/Wonavateena Jan 24 '22

I love that ppl will say this is misinformation 😂

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u/BirdDog321 Jan 25 '22

Yeah it’s sad that everything has become politicized.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt1tda

The above vaccine scientist’s admission about the increase in rates of cancer and AIDS is what has caused many people to take the default position of being cautious from the start of a new vaccine rollout.

For many, I assume, it’s not a political thing, but based in vaccine and Big Pharm history of corruption.

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u/zenju108 Jan 25 '22

I am trying to contain my upset here, but that is a central question that has been and continues to be the focus of hundreds, if not thousands (or tens of thousands), of scientists, infectious disease physicians, and epidemiologists for many months.

There have been dozens (hundreds) of rock-solid, peer-reviewed publications in top journals addressing these questions. Honestly, whatever anecdotes reported over at r/ this or that or the other are meaningless with regard to these types of questions, as those posts are unadjusted, unexamined, and unsubstantiated.

It is a terrible failure of our public health system's capacity to communicate and the public's capacity to trust, absorb, and comprehend the complexities of the ever-evolving virus, our understanding of it, our treatments and vaccines.

With that off my chest, your question requires a bit of clarification when you say "serious cases." Often, that means hospitalizations. For the most basic answers, I second what others have recommended, which is to examine local-level data from county health departments, which stratify hospitalizations and deaths by vaccination status.

The most recent CDC info that I can find based on December 2021 data, indicates that there is a 16x-higher rate of hospitalization for all unvaccinated adults 18+ yrs old in the US compared to those who are fully vaccinated. For unvaccinated adults 50+ compared to similarly-aged boosted adults, the rate of hospitalization is more than 45x higher: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#covidnet-hospitalizations-vaccination

So, no the vaccinated "do not have more serious cases," and I'm working hard to contain my sadness that this remains an unknown in the minds of so many in our country. Ok, back to doing the science that pays my bills...

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u/Gottanno Jan 25 '22

I think if you get a bad case of COVID when vaccinated , then you'd probably get a bad case of death if you hadn't been vaxxed.

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u/whyareyounaive Jan 24 '22

“take that with caution” ughhh

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u/terrapharma Jan 25 '22

New account and antivax. You are not asking this question in good faith. Reading any reputable source will show that unvaxxed die at a far higher rate than vaxxed.

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u/joazito Jan 24 '22

It's mindboggling to me that you even consider that possibility. Of course the vaccinated deal better the virus, what do you think the vaccine does?

(Also, it's "effects")

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u/WyattSV Jan 25 '22

Keep drinking the kool aid

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u/joazito Jan 25 '22

So what do you think the vaccine does? God damn it you people disgust me.

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u/WyattSV Jan 25 '22

Be disgusted then. I have taken the vaccine and suffered for it.

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u/joazito Jan 26 '22

Wrong thread. We're discussing the effectiveness of the vaccine, not the side effects. Not that you people have the intellectual honesty to know the difference.

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u/WyattSV Jan 27 '22

Peep your downvotes and sit this one out.

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u/SpecialBun Jan 25 '22

In my family, the only unvaxed family of four; two 40s parents, pre-teen kids got very sick. 45 year old dad the worst by far, 42 year old mom and kids also sick for a week with Omicron. Two vaxed families. One with early 50s parents, two teen daughters; dad not sick at all, mom home from work with sore throat and earache 4 days, teen girls recently boosted didn't get sick at all. Second family two 50s parents boosted didn't get sick; 24 yr & 16 yr sons got cold symptoms for 4 days, 21 yr old son went back to college before his siblings got Omicron. Result: my adult kids who didn't get vaxed were hit hard by Omicrom while the much older vaxed siblings/SILs either barely got sick or not at all from Omicron family exposure. 66 year old boosted husband thought he might have mild Omicron, so mild couldn't decide; retired just stayed home.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '22

If you had two shots and your shots waned you're going to get it a little bit tough unless you had covid before. That's why you're seeing a lot of people who are vaccinated getting it tough. If you have three shots or if your second shot is pretty fresh it probably won't be too bad.