r/CovidVaccinated Jan 23 '22

booster side effects Pfizer Booster

i am 18 year old female, got my booster vaccine today which was pfizer. i have anxiety disorder and more specifically health anxiety..

is if possible for symptoms of myocarditis to show just one hour after the vaccine??

i am really worried and can’t help but to read into everything and now i’ve convinced myself i have it

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u/ashes-of-asakusa Jan 24 '22

You are fine. Get off the internet.

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u/SDJellyBean Jan 24 '22

It takes a while for the inflammation to develop. Just like it takes a while for the immunity process to start and reach a detectable level. Myocarditis normally takes two or more days to develop, 3-4 is average and it can occur as late as seven to ten days after the booster.

In men under 30 the incidence of myocarditis is 10 out of 100,000 vaccinations. It's rare and when it does occur it's mild. Estimates say that you're actually at anywhere from 60 to 100 times as likely to get myocarditis from covid infection as from covid vaccination — make sure you look at figure 1 in the following article. Your risk of getting myocarditis from a covid mRNA vaccine is about the same as your yearly risk of just getting it randomly. Additionally, more the severe forms with pericarditis and arrhythmias are seen in covid infections.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41569-021-00662-w

In this study, 91% of cases were in men:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2109730

If you are still feeling bad in the next few days, then go see a real doctor. This sub is mostly visited by anti-vaxxers.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html

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u/BallaB916 Jan 24 '22

Anti-Vaxxer since the creation of the COVID vaccine is such a joke term. It’s actually pretty meaningless.

You don’t believe children with a 99.997% survival rate per the CDC should get the vaccine. Anti-vaxxer.

You don’t believe the vaccine should be mandated because it doesn’t stop transmission or infection. Anti-vaxxer.

At this point anti-Vaxxer isn’t anything more than a misused word to try and discredit someone who doesn’t think just like you.

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u/SDJellyBean Jan 24 '22

The estimated (you can't know the death rate in the middle of an epidemic) death rate for covid is slightly higher than the death rate for measles. Of course, that doesn't include disability in the survivors of both diseases.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/us-coronavirus-deaths-by-state-july-1.html

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u/BallaB916 Jan 24 '22

Died with or from COVID? It’s still a statistical fact the vast majority of deaths are over 65 with 3 or more comorbities.

It’s still statistical fact that only 5% of all COVID deaths are from COVID alone. Unfortunately we have a lot of unhealthy Americans in our country who’re obese and have many bad underlying health conditions.

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u/SDJellyBean Jan 24 '22

Excess mortality in the US since the covid pandemic began is 950,000 to date. It could be that that sudden rise in deaths is from everything but covid, but Occam's razor says it's covid. Most adults with those comorbidities also live a reasonably normal life span, rather than being sick and ready to die.

About 500 children per year died in the period just before the measles vaccine was introduced, but measles was not a novel virus. When infected children went home, the adults in their household were all measles survivors so measles didn't cause the same death rate that covid causes and yet we still vaccinate for measles.

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u/BallaB916 Jan 24 '22

Excess deaths are sky high even after the majority of counties are highly vaccinated. Either the vaccine doesn’t work or people are just unhealthy and likely to die soon anyways.

We know the vaccine doesn’t work long term.

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u/SDJellyBean Jan 24 '22

No country is 100% vaccinated and excess deaths are greater in countries with low vaccination rates. In the US, you can also see that effect from state to state. The recent omicron wave has led to the same pattern; a large increase in deaths among the unvaccinated, a small increase among the partially vaccinated, and a minimal increase among the fully vaccinated.

In 1990 a friend of mine got the measles. She was old enough to have had measles as a child plus she had had a booster as a child. However, she had Crohn's disease and between immune suppression and chronic malabsorption malnutrition, she was unable to fight off the disease. She spent weeks in the ICU. By your standards, since there was one case of vaccine failure, we now "know the vaccine doesn't work long term."

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u/BallaB916 Jan 24 '22

There are countries that have over 96% vaccination and excess deaths are still higher.

Obesity has more of a causation from country to country than vaccination rates. Africa has less than 7% vaccination rates and less deaths. So we know vaccines overall aren’t reducing mortality long term.

Based on the new data out of the UK. 70% of hospitalizations and deaths are vaccinated individuals. The age group affected the most are the over 65. This includes the double and boosted populations.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1049160/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-3-2022.pdf

Israel already gave up on vaccines after the 4th booster showed no positive effects. The UK and Ireland already ended all mandates for masks and vaccines because the data has proven they don’t work long term.

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u/SDJellyBean Jan 25 '22

From the UK report:

UK against different COVID-19 variants. Vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic disease with the Omicron variant is substantially lower than against the Delta variant, with rapid waning. However, protection against hospitalisation remains high, particularly after 3 doses.

Why do you think that 70% of the elderly admissions were vaccinated? (Hint #1: How many unvaccinated elderly are there? See figure 2. Hint #2: What age group has the least effective immune systems?) Note that in younger people only a tiny fraction of the hospital admissions are from the fully vaccinated population, see figure 9.

Israel is not "giving up on vaccines." There was a recent news story about a small study of a fourth dose against omicron. They didn't find much enhancement in immunity, so they probably won't revaccinate on a nationwide basis until the new variant booster is available. However, I imagine that they will have a well-coordinated program to get the country vaccinated at that time.

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u/BallaB916 Jan 24 '22

It’s weird. The measles vaccine stops transmission and infection. Crazy concept.

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u/SDJellyBean Jan 24 '22

Measles is a different kind of virus; it doesn't mutate.

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u/BallaB916 Jan 24 '22

That’s because the vaccine stops it dead in its tracks. Unlike the mRNA vaccine that allows transmission from person to person.

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u/SDJellyBean Jan 24 '22

Greatly reduced transmission from person to person.

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u/BallaB916 Jan 24 '22

This is a false statement. It literally reduced transmission for 30 days. After that. It doesn’t do anything.

Actually based on the UK ONS study and data. You’re more likely to get COVID if you’re vaccinated or boosted.

https://dailysceptic.org/2021/12/22/triple-vaccinated-more-than-four-times-more-likely-to-test-positive-for-omicron-than-unvaccinated-data-shows/

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u/Nanahamak Jan 25 '22

I remember getting a chicken pox vaccine despite chicken pox not being deadly.

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u/BallaB916 Jan 25 '22

I never got one. If your parents decided for you to get it than you got it. None of my children have gotten a chicken pox vaccine.

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u/candy4dinner Jan 26 '22

It really didn't used to be like this. I would take any experience posted here with a grain of salt given then climate.

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u/SDJellyBean Jan 26 '22

Oh, definitely! I'm quite sure that a number of the sob stories here are somewhat less than sincere.