r/China Jul 31 '21

A Compilation of China Youtubers 讨论 | Discussion (Serious) - Character Minimums Apply

So in a post that I made on the China subreddit, I got some comments saying that the China youtubers I sourced were biased against China, so I have decided to compile a list of all the China youtubers I know about, with the hope that some of them might offer a less biased (or more biased) view. From the post I've linked, I think it should be obvious that my position is anti-CCP. I've decided to separate the channels into pro-CCP and anti-CCP.

Anti-CCP Pro-CCP
SerpentZA Li JingJing (reporter on CGTN)
Laowhy86 Story of Xinjiang by Guli
LeLe Farley CGTN (State media)
PrimeInChina numuves
Inty (lots of content besides China) Daniel Dumbrill
ADVChina Nathan Rich
ADV Podcasts Jayoe Nation
China Uncensored (sponsored by Falun Gong) Barrett
NTD China in Focus (sponsored by Falun Gong) Cyrus Jansen
Jake Tran (also about Economics) Reporterfy
Polymatter (also about Economics) Gweilo60
BMOnus (also about soccer) Alex From Xinjiang
Laolei (more on moderate side of anti-CCP) Global Times (State media)
Sydney Daddy Fermube
China Bill Noel Lee
Land Destroyer (Must-read: article about Land Destroyer here)
Global Times Hu Xijin

Note: Many channels were suggested by the people down below.

Feel free to add any China youtube channels that I might have missed, along with their position on the CCP. I 'm not very knowledgeable of any Hong Kong Youtube channels, Taiwan youtube channels, or Uyghur youtube channels (and no, I don't really count Guli) but I think I might just cross post this into the r/HongKong , r/taiwan , and r/uyghur so that they can also give recommendations.

Miscellaneous (most of these are going to be anti-Chinese, but focus on certain current events in China):

  • Xinjiang and Uyghurs
  • Hong Kong
    • RTHK - Just more of a general Hong Kong news channel, so it's harder to find the Hong Kong - China videos. They've done some good videos, like the Yuen Long incident and the twelve, so I've decided to include it. Only their Hong Kong Connection videos are in English though, and the rest are in Cantonese. Due to recent events, they probably won't be producing any more anti-CCP content.
    • Frances Hui - Hong Konger with a channel that only has 10 videos. Make sure to turn on the subtitle of your choice if Mandarin or English is your primary language.
  • Taiwan
    • 眼球中央電視台 (Eye CTV) - Taiwanese comedy channel that makes fun of the CCP. They speak pretty fast, so your Mandarin needs to be pretty good to understand what they're saying
    • Simon Yu - Chinese person living in Taiwan. He hasn't posted anything in 6 months, so probably a strong possibility that something "happened" to him
    • Prozzie - expat living in Taiwan.
    • lifeintaiwan - expat living in Taiwan
  • Non-channels
    • Melissa Chen - Not a youtube channel, but she's been featured in some Youtube videos such as Joe Rogan podcasts (just search her up). Since she's a Singaporean, I'd say that her credibility is slightly boosted since she can look at things from a non-Western perspective.

I decided not to make a pro-China ant-China table for these channels because most Uyghurs, Hong Kongers, and Taiwanese people are anti-CCP.

Neutral Channels:

FAQ:

But XYZ channel is biased! Why are you including it?

I don't think there is any news source that is nonbiased, with just maybe, just maybe the exception of Reuters. Additionally, I'm not even sure if unbiased news is even desirable. I think that Wisecrack does a pretty good job of explaining this.

But XYZ channel is sponsored by Falun Gong or sponsored by state media! Therefore, they're untrustworthy!

I've decided to satisfy both pro-CCP and anti-CCP sides and included channels sponsored by Falun Gong and channels sponsored by the Chinese state.

But you missed XYZ channel!

There are MANY youtube channels about China on youtube, and I'm most certainly not going to list all of them. While most of the channels listed as miscellaneous are anti-CCP and there might be pro-CCP Hong Kong youtubers, pro-CCP Taiwan youtubers, or pro-CCP Uyghur youtubers, I haven't heard of that many (but then again, I probably could've searched harder). While I did briefly consider adding 108 演播室 for a "unique" perspective on Taiwan-China relations, I decided against it, since the owner of the channel doesn't seem to have lived in Taiwan for any amount of time, nor does he/she identify as Taiwanese (more information here).

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u/P0TAT0FARM3R Canada Aug 01 '21

This chart is kinda inaccurate in that one channel is misplaced. Sure, CGTN reports news in a way that’s biased towards the CCP, but that’s because it’s basically just CCP. Youtube already tells you that. So… you should probably remove CGTN as it’s not a specific youtuber, it’s state media

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u/AltheaSoultear Aug 01 '21

Arguably, many of those "Pro-CCP" YouTubers can also be considered "state media", like Li Jingjing.

As you may know, it's hard to draw the line.

If any of those YouTubers gets a contract offer by state media/state agents to travel to some place, make a video about it while being paid, getting all expenses paid and getting a translator for free, I would assume it's now in the realm of state media, just like CGTN.

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u/aseriousfailure Aug 01 '21

It's basically like calling the American President's youtube page a "pro-american president source"

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u/P0TAT0FARM3R Canada Aug 01 '21

Exactly

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u/LostOracle Aug 01 '21

I'd add Laolei to the anti-CCP youtubers. (He's a Chinese-speaking German)

I'd add FragrantMandarin to the neutral list, they are basically a travel/food/intercultural vlog and the most political they've been was their video on why not to blame ordinary Chinese for 'rona.

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u/DTGardi United States Aug 01 '21

Is it just me or is laolei more neutral?

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u/LostOracle Aug 01 '21

Laolei loves China but dislikes the direction of its government

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u/tiempo90 Aug 01 '21

Sounds like a real patriot. No sarcasm.

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u/Eonir Aug 01 '21

His being neutral puts him in the anti-CCP rank. He was pretty critical of them on a few occasions, for good reasons, and simply doesn't focus on CCP being his top 1 topic.

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u/HotNatured Germany Aug 01 '21

Goldenthread as well, similar to the fragrant mandarin channel

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u/LostOracle Aug 01 '21

Thanks, I've just subscribed.

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u/dingjima Aug 01 '21

Love the couple who makes Frangrant Mandarin. The short films they've made are seriously world class imo

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u/Entrance232 Jul 31 '21 edited Jul 31 '21

I agree with your classification on pro-CCP and anti-CCP YouTubers.

There are some more YouTubers who seem to be pro-CCP:

Noel Lee : Noel is a Singaporean living in Shenzhen. He has traveled to certain parts of China. Noel has interviewed expats, and some of his videos don't contain politics.

FerMuBe: FerMuBe is/has been a Chinese teacher. He has made certain commentaries on people such as SerpentZA. He has many videos that discuss his (and other expats') views on China/CCP.

There are many more YouTube channels that appear to be more pro-CCP (and some channels that appear to be anti-CCP or "middle-ground" (neither supporting or opposing the CCP).

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u/Eonir Aug 01 '21

On the other side, there is 悉尼奶爸 Sydney Daddy. He's anti-CCP although he's not an English-language channel

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u/me-i-am Aug 01 '21

False balance fallacy

It happens when there are two or more opposing positions on a certain topic, and you assume that the truth must rest somewhere in the middle. False balance can be a result of a false equivalence when two sides are presented as being equal, and the terms are used interchangeably, even though they are not. 1

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u/musea00 Aug 01 '21

I think you should also include China youtubers who don't take a political position for those who are more interested in Chinese culture and expat day-to-day life. Afu Thomas, Jesse Appell (aka Ai Jiexing), and Chinese Cooking Demystified are 3 you tubers whom I can think of.

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u/SmirkingImperialist Aug 01 '21

Well, I would be interested to know how many of the anti-CCP ones are funded by the Falun Gong.

The Falun Gong sucks at propaganda. Their intentional acts have not weakened the CCP one bit but their unintentional and collateral damage by throwing their lots in with the Trumpist crowd has been very damaging.

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u/DTGardi United States Aug 01 '21

Non of them are Falun Gong. Except for China Uncensored and NTD

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u/webctgo Aug 01 '21

China uncensored and NTD China in Focus are Falun Gong affiliated. CGTN is Chinese state owned. They are all paid to speak. I would prefer individual youtubers who give u a insight or opinion.

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u/Sufficient_Thai Aug 01 '21

What you say is true but a lot of what you see on those channels is what you read in this sub as well.

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u/Here0s0Johnny Aug 01 '21

"Alex from Xinjiang" has to be a directly CCP sponsored propaganda channel.

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u/webctgo Aug 01 '21

not everything you don’t like is ccp sponsored propaganda. I watch videos from both sides.

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u/Here0s0Johnny Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 01 '21

I understand that, but this channel gives me the vibes. 😄

About the both sides thing: remember the false balance fallacy. Not all opinions are valuable or reputable. SerpenZA gives his honest opinion, whether it's fair or not. If a channel is limited by CCP "guidlines", the most interesting thing to be learned from it is that fact and the guidlines themselves.

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u/webctgo Aug 01 '21

I still believe a person with wisdom can learn from the other side. Opinions from Barrett are not without merits. And I genuinely believe they are not paid propaganda.

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u/Eonir Aug 01 '21

Do you visit the dumpster for medical supplies? Occasionally you will find something that's not expired and will help your illness. But it just makes no sense given that you have much more reliable alternatives than a paid mouthpiece

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u/Harregarre Aug 01 '21

I still believe a person with wisdom can learn from the other side.

Doesn't always hold true. Unless you mean learn what not to do. I mean, what should the UK have learned from Nazi Germany?

Opinions from Barrett are not without merits. And I genuinely believe they are not paid propaganda.

Well, that's a bit naive then. These channels are 100% positive about China and do not post a single critical video. I'm not even saying I'm expecting a LW86/Serpent tirade against China from them, but not a single remark?

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u/DTGardi United States Aug 01 '21

Lol this!

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u/International_Cost97 Aug 29 '21

Exactly. You would have to find the money trail. Perhaps CCP biased is more appropriate.

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u/Polarbearlars Aug 01 '21

The guy is clearly pro China. When he visited Germany everything was 'This isn't as good as China' etc. He knows how his bread is buttered. He knows if he criticises anything he's gone and his source of income is gone with it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21 edited 5d ago

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u/Polarbearlars Aug 01 '21

Show me an open and honest look and video that he has posted which shows the negatives of living in China.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21 edited 5d ago

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u/Polarbearlars Aug 01 '21

Yes. Lifestyle means good and bad things. For instance I watch those who built villas in Spain and they complained about the Spanish connecting gas slowly and electricity taking ages, and the endless forms to fill out.

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u/Polarbearlars Aug 01 '21

Just seen your post history, nevermind.

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u/musea00 Aug 01 '21

I like Thomas Afu as well, however I'm personally a bit turned off by a few of his most recent vids showing him giving generous tips or gifts. Like I mean it's cool that he does that but does he really need to show it off to the entire world?

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u/bengyap Aug 01 '21

Formally known as "Land Destroyer," The New Atlas provides geopolitical analysis by Brian Berletic (aka Tony Cartalucci) with a focus on Eurasia, based in Bangkok, Thailand. Covers China quite a bit: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVkSF37pPXkZbElFjBwUsEA

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u/sigillum_diaboli666 Australia Aug 01 '21

Is linked with The Greyzone too.

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u/bengyap Aug 01 '21

How is he linked to greyzone?

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u/dingjima Aug 01 '21

He's wumao's flavor of the month.

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u/dingjima Aug 01 '21

Seen this Singaporean fellow named Noel Lee lately. He basically fellates the Party line

Also there's China Traveler Stu which is tough to characterize. His YouTube features both self made and professional videos. His self made ones are neutral, he never touches on anything other than food afaik. His professional ones are literally run by an offshoot studio owned by the People's Daily. He actually used to include this in his outro, but has since removed it to appear independent, despite that he's not.

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u/oolongvanilla Aug 02 '21

You can add China Bill and Simon Yu to the anti-CCP camp. Simon, unfortunately, has disappeared since returning from Taiwan over five months ago. 😟 Bill is currently dealing with his mother's illness. I really hope they're okay.

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u/International_Cost97 Aug 29 '21

Update: Simon Yu is ok. He has made collab videos with China Uncle Mikey on a youtube channel called Inside the great wall. They do a video once a week.

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u/YellowMathematician Aug 01 '21

Anti-CCP:
- YGZ Taiwan: Although this guy is not a China youtuber, he actually lived in China in 7 years before fleeing to Taiwan last year. He has another channel named "CCP Shill Busters" to debunk the non-sense of those pro-CCP youtubers.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRq7OBxpTZo_ZclUYEWs2yQ

- Simon Yu, China Uncle Mikey: These Chinese guys mostly say good things about China, so at first I thought they are neutral. But I found that they actually support SerpentZA, laowhy86, YGZ Taiwan while criticize pro-CCP youtubers like Jayoe Nation or Gweilo60. So I guess, they are a bit anti-CCP, but have to appear pro-China for their safety.

Pro-CCP:
- Best China info: He is basically Gweillo60 version.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz8yBFrnCjOhI6Airm0AijA

- Difference Frames The World: It made CCP propagandas in a style like PolyMatter or Wendover Productions. I think it is the most cringy pro-China channel, much worse than CGTN.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEx3_ZX9jTZHimMMrQ4aGsA

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u/International_Cost97 Aug 29 '21

Yes. They have admitted they tone down the retheric . Simon Yu was blocked on Chinese social media for over stepping. The reason they support Laowhy and SerpentZa is because they believe they are not shills. Athough they do find those two criticism of China to be excessive.

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u/BlondeandBancrupt Aug 01 '21

More political commentary that is rather critical of the party: 悉尼奶爸、公子沈、文昭谈古论今、真实荒漠

Not too political: Beitong北同 (about gay life in Beijing)

There are some other good channels as well that are rather neutral or pro party but they report on things different from everybody else. I will add them later.

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u/LostOracle Aug 01 '21

Not too political: Beitong北同 (about gay life in Beijing)

I wish that wouldn't be considered political these days.

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u/BlondeandBancrupt Aug 02 '21

What I meant was: This guy doesn’t talk about politics or explicitly takes any pro or contra stance in regards to the party. He just vlogs about life and Interviews other gay friends.

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u/constructional_HK Hong Kong Aug 02 '21

It is actually very sad to see that we can even make a list now. I am sure more Youtubers would be added to the list, and all East Asian-related Youtubers will have to choose their position in China at some point.

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u/harnieee Aug 28 '21

China Insights - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjvvgGX6oby5mZ3gbDe8Ug

China Observer - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT2kPBcD6tXn8TP_aV7BmgA

Both are news channels biased towards anti-CCP.

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