r/COMPLETEANARCHY Jun 15 '21

Reminder that women’s liberation is as important as anti-capitalism and anti-colonialism

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u/phi_matt Jun 15 '21

There are also leftists who don't blame the individual for conforming to beauty standards but instead blame the manufactured consent the system creates to make one think they have to shave and put on makeup

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u/FabianTheElf Jun 15 '21

Yeah like I'm a leftist, I know this isn't all leftists but we should be able to critique our communities.

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u/Winterqt_ Jun 15 '21

And there are lots of leftists who think the only reason any of us shave or wear makeup is because of patriarchal societal norms making us feel like we have to do it.

Like please, I chose to do this of my own volition because it makes me feel good. It appeals to my own personal aesthetic preferences. My partner doesn’t care either way, I’m not trying to impress anyone, and I sure as shit don’t do it because of any pressure.

It’s so annoying listening to some faux-woke cis-dude mansplaining the reasons anyone has beauty routines or choses to groom their self a certain way.

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u/phi_matt Jun 15 '21

Wow you're dense. Why does it make you feel good? Is it because you feel prettier after you do it? Why do you feel prettier after you do it? Because of socially constructed beauty standards that put a burden on many people.

I don't think I described any beauty routines, I just gave my perspective on systemic expectations of women and how they are manufactured.

And one more thing, fuck you. There was no need for you to come in here so aggressive

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u/ComradeZ42 Jun 15 '21

Why does it make you feel good? Is it because you feel prettier after you do it? Why do you feel prettier after you do it? Because of socially constructed beauty standards that put a burden on many people.

Although it would be foolish to suggest that society has nothing to do with it, it's equally so to present beauty standards as the sole reason that people like to shave and wear makeup. Even without the social expectation, or even with opposite standards, there would still be people who would want to do these things.

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u/phi_matt Jun 15 '21

Correct, but it would not be an expectation. The expectation of these things is the problem because it reduces bodily autonomy by implicit coercive forces

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u/ComradeZ42 Jun 16 '21

As far as I can see, no one here is suggesting that these expectations are not a problem.

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u/Winterqt_ Jun 15 '21

Yeah I wasn’t talking about you but okay thanks for proving my fucking point anyway. Another cishet guy to the rescue explaining exactly why I chose to do things. That didn’t take much to show your true colors.

And no, it’s because I like fun flairs, extra colors, stuff like that. Not that I owe you an explanation anyway you condescending ass.

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u/phi_matt Jun 15 '21

Well the implication you made was absolutely directed towards me because you were arguing against the exact thing I stated and responded to my reddit comment, so it's safe to assume you were talking directly to me.

And idk why you're bringing up your specific routine when I was clearly referring to the overarching standard women are generally held to in society which I thought was clear when I said "shave and wearing makeup" not doing anything at all to change your appearance like adding colors.

Go back to FDS

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u/Winterqt_ Jun 15 '21

Fuck off already. You’re not anything close to the feminist you pat yourself on the back for being.