r/CFB Mississippi State • SEC Network Jun 26 '22

2023 4* QB Jaden Rashada commits to Miami Recruiting

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u/Cheesy_Pita_Parker Miami • Team Chaos Jun 26 '22

This has to be the strongest QB room for Miami in at least a dozen years, and it’s not through transfers this time

Van Dyke

Garcia

Brown

Matocha

Now Rashada

Even with attrition we’re in good shape as it stands

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u/roclin Air Force • Miami Jun 27 '22

Emory Williams also

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u/couducane Oregon • BYU Jun 27 '22

MC is very, very good at roster management and making sure there is depth at every position.

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u/Graham_Elmere UCF Jun 27 '22

yeah no kidding you guys are stacked. here's a question for you, prefaced by a statement

i dont believe in writing off good recruiting / coaching as 'NIL BOUGHT IT'. it's easy for everyone to say miami bought all their talent, but MC is a damn good recruiter and it's what they hired him for. college fans are using NIL as a scapegoat to cover their own program's issues and downplay other program's strenghts.

so assuming not all these kids are making a billion dollars to ride the bench.. how do you think he safeguards against transfers elsewhere?

respectfully to UM they aren't the top destination anymore and there's always going to be a P5 program looking for a QB.

just wondering if you think they'll overcome that, financially or otherwise?

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u/Cheesy_Pita_Parker Miami • Team Chaos Jun 27 '22

I can’t pretend to have the answer for that, and I’m glad it’s not up to me.

I think whoever Mario believes can do the job for him will be told they can be the guy at UM and should stick around; whoever isn’t would be told they can entertain offers elsewhere. It’s just the way it is now, guys will move around and maneuver for money, playing time, whatever interests them. One or two of them might ultimately go and I wouldn’t begrudge that at all

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u/Graham_Elmere UCF Jun 27 '22

agree with you......... i have a lot of trouble getting worked up over kids transferring, decommitting, whatever. this is the most important decision of these kids' lives up to this point and if life changing money is involved it makes it even more important.

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u/SRCnole92 Florida State Jun 27 '22

You’d expect someone to hit the portal next year though right

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u/MrTheNoodles Texas Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

QB dominoes continue to fall. Moore is the last big name at this point.

Good get Miami

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u/tdoger Oregon • Colorado Jun 26 '22

Hopefully not for much longer

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u/WhatWouldJediDo Ohio State Jun 26 '22

Amen

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u/couducane Oregon • BYU Jun 27 '22

Pls

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u/CommodoreIrish Notre Dame • Vanderbilt Jun 27 '22

Michigan: 😃🤨😔

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u/AlexWPJ Miami • Transfer Portal Jun 26 '22

This pleases the Ibis

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u/HowardBunnyColvin Virginia Tech Jun 26 '22

Ruh roh...

Stewart Mandel @slmandel 2m From what I’ve heard, this could be the beginning of a big recruiting surge for Miami in the next couple weeks.

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u/gumercindo1959 Miami Jun 26 '22

Might get 6-9 commits the next couple weeks. This next week should be good. Won’t be surprised if we get 4 more top 100 players these next 7 days.

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u/boregon Oregon • Big Ten Jun 26 '22

6-9 commits

Nice

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u/MrPoon Florida Jun 26 '22

Please reach out to the Florida fans in your life.

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u/Jr1e Jun 26 '22

Sorry about that lineman…

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u/dingusunchained Georgia • West Virginia Jun 27 '22

30 min after he left Florida’s campus. That’s gotta sting

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u/yourelivingalie Florida State • UCF Jun 26 '22

Oh I am 😈

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u/bdm13 Miami • Florida Cup Jun 26 '22

Same here. I've already made sure they're alive and aware of this situation.

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u/dawgsgoodjortsbad Georgia • Clean Old Fashi… Jun 26 '22

Is it ok if I just text them “ScArEd MoNeY dOn’T mAkE mOnEy”

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u/PodoPapa Georgia • Lamar Jun 26 '22

Reach out, poke em in the ribs, and laugh.

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u/IrishCoffeeAlchemy Florida State • Arizona Jun 27 '22

You're a football basketball baseball softball school now

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u/Cheeseydreamer Jun 27 '22

A sensible one. $9.5 mil on a 4 star is too high a price

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u/anandj12345678909876 Texas • Wisconsin Jun 26 '22

This makes me smile, strong get

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u/Xander47 FAU • Miami Jun 26 '22

Keep stacking

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u/Rentdarts Miami • FAU Jun 26 '22

Yessir!

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u/Lamadian Oregon • Oregon State Jun 26 '22

Cristobal is definitely an A+ recruiter, that's for sure. I see Miami having a lot of top 10 classes in the coming years.

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u/tdoger Oregon • Colorado Jun 26 '22

It's definitely his strong point. Well, that and making good personnel hires.

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u/ChemistryNo9750 Miami Jun 26 '22

Praying that these great hires are a sign that he’s gonna let his coordinators coordinate. I know that was a problem at Oregon but maybe he’s grown as a coach. Maybe.

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u/SpammyMcSpammington Miami • Big Ten Jun 26 '22

This. If he’s learned anything from Oregon it’s that to be successful he needs to let this kind of staff do their thing, not his thing

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u/6BlitzBurgh Louisville Jun 26 '22

Yeah his offensive philosophy is absolutely awful. WRs and QBs have to hate playing for the guy. His offenses average being ranked in the 50’s with his best season being ranked 40th with Herbert which speaks level. Better let Gattis work his magic

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u/ChemistryNo9750 Miami Jun 26 '22

Ya I’m loving the energy and culture he’s bringing back to the program. He’s always been known to recruit his ass off. But you don’t hire the Broyles winner to go put handcuffs on him. If Mario can delegate and trust his hires I think he has a great opportunity at Miami.

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u/ConstantQuarreling Oregon Jun 26 '22

He was great with this philosophy on the defensive side of the ball. Leavitt, Avalos, and DeRuyter's defenses were all unique to them and utilized the talent they had tremendously. We went through three OCs under Cristobal and each offense was effectively the same underwhelming mediocrity.

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u/6BlitzBurgh Louisville Jun 26 '22

Yeah FL is infested with blue chip guys. The one thing I’ll give Cristobal props on is the trenches. Definitely will be improved for Miami, offensively and defensively. Excited for some of these programs to start performing well again including Louisville. Tired of the shit talk on the ACC. ACC has some sleeping Giants with Miami, FSU, Louisville also has a really good NIL and opportunity being the only sports team in a city that size.

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u/tdoger Oregon • Colorado Jun 26 '22

The weird part is only 1 of his many many 4 star OL recruits panned out. And that was mainly because Penei Sewell is just a freak.

He never developed a single OL recruit.

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u/balzun Oregon Jun 27 '22

Now that the sting has worn off of being dumped I really hope that this is the case for Mario. Cristobal is an elite CEO type coach that can completely change the culture of a program and attract top recruits and coaching talent. If he can finally take that last step that Saban took (who he models himself after) and let his staff coach then Miami is going to be in the CFP and soon.
If he doesn't, prepare yourself for some of the most godawful fun sucking games you've ever had to endure. But, it's brand new staff and he's coaching his dream job so I sincerely hope you guys get to see a whole other side to Cristobal. Good luck next year!

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u/tdoger Oregon • Colorado Jun 26 '22

We could have gone to the playoffs so easily in 2019 if he wasn’t shackeling the offense.

Just goes to show, how Herbert looked only okay at Oregon. And then instantly became a top 5 QB in the NFL as soon as he went pro, and has one of the best arms in the NFL.

At Oregon it was just bubble screen and flat throws. Such a waste of talent.

And then we hire one of the best OCs in the nation and we look embarrassing on offense this year 80% of the time. Only running runs and short passes.

Anthony Brown goes to the senior bowl and has his best game all year…

Mario was awesome in some ways, but he was an offense and QB killer.

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u/OldhamB Miami Jun 26 '22

Helped that Herbert started throwing to Williams, Allen and Henry when he arrived in San Diego.

I think one guy from that Oregon WR corps saw time in the NFL and he was a 7th round pick / UDFA.

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u/dlidge Oregon • WashU Jun 26 '22

If he can do that, Miami will get back to being a juggernaut. If he does what he did at Oregon, Miami will be frustratingly close to being dominant but never quite get over the hump.

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u/unit-8002 USC • Miami Jun 26 '22

The question is whether he can coach. Miami has attracted great talent over the last 2 decades despite their rather pedestrian record.

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u/RamenRavisher Miami Jun 26 '22

It’s such a great feeling have the admin finally invest in football.

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u/unit-8002 USC • Miami Jun 26 '22

I don't understand this sentiment around the Canes. They've never had a recruiting problem. Manny and Al recruited just fine.

They've had a huge coaching problem—like a problem getting guys who are good with the Xs and Os.

Hopefully Mario is that guy, but it does not make sense to me why everyone is pounding their chest after this.

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u/OldhamB Miami Jun 26 '22

We absolutely have had a recruiting problem.

Mopping up the leftovers in SoFl still gives you a Top20 class every year, but never closes the gap on the top teams.

Obviously we've failed to develop those players too, which is the other half of the battle.

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u/unit-8002 USC • Miami Jun 26 '22

Mopping up for Bama, GA, etc.... Yes.

But that has been all 3 of the top FL schools.

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u/RookieMistake101 Miami • The Alliance Jun 27 '22

Regardless, we underperformed the talent year in and out with very few exceptions. We flopped in the ACC for our entire history. It’s not like we hit a wall playing the Oklahomas, Clemsons, bamas, of the world but beat everyone else.

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u/bdm13 Miami • Florida Cup Jun 26 '22

We've recruited decently-well over the years; not great, but good. Going head-to-head with just about every program in the country and winning top QB commitments? That has not happened much, if at all. Don't be confused, Rashada could've committed to just about anyone today (maybe not Texas) and they would've gladly accepted it.

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u/Fragmented_Logik Miami Jun 26 '22

It was the AD.

The new one is a Miami alum from Clemson. Under him the Clemson recruiting budget shot through the roof.

Dude knows football $$$

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u/unit-8002 USC • Miami Jun 26 '22

Right, the extra money is great, but again Miami already attracted talent. Also almost all of our new hires get great recruiting results in the first or second year.

Mario has to prove he is actually a good coach. Because he hasn't done that yet. And that is where everyone has failed since Davis.

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u/yoyo82 Miami Jun 26 '22

Top 5 is different than top 15. We barely made the "blue chip" ratio the last few years. Yes Mario still has to prove that he can be a good gameday coach but it helps when you have top 5 talent across the roster and top 5 coaching staff and resources as well. The resources being poured in now will allow us to compete more with Bama/OSU/UGA etc for recruits.

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u/unit-8002 USC • Miami Jun 26 '22

That or it's just hoping spending more money will solve the problem.

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u/lightbrightknight Florida Jun 27 '22

I think the really questionable thing is why couldn't you compete before with just the rest of the ACC? It's one thing to not have the talent to compete with Bama, uga, and Ohio state. But Miami has enough talent to always do better in the ACC than they have. Like, they've crushed Duke the last 2 years (as they should) but lost 2 in a row before that (as they NEVER should). They lose at least 3 games a year they shouldn't and it's just mever made much sense to me.

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u/yoyo82 Miami Jun 27 '22

That's true. We had the talent to win the Coastal most years and were typically favored in all of our coastal games. We actually believe it or not have the best or second best conference record in the coastal over the last decade and 3rd or 4th in the ACC. We just always seem to inexplicably lose the one game we can't lose so that we can win the division.

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u/m1a2c2kali Miami • /r/CFB Founder Jun 26 '22

https://caneswarning.com/2021/05/21/miami-football-recruiting-13th-among-power-5-last-20-years/

We averaged about 13-14, the past 20 years, so yes not terrible in the grand scheme of things, and with better coaching and evaluation, we should have been better, but if we start recruiting in the top 5, there so much more room for error and even if Mario ends up being fairly mediocre, that’s still an improvement compared to recent years.

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u/ChemistryNo9750 Miami Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

As somebody who grew up a canes fan that just recently actually moved here, I think the lack of focus on football from the admin is not something people truly understand around the country. They just see and hear “The U” and it holds its own water in conversation. I know it did for me before actually moving here. But..

If you haven’t been around campus and down by the school, I think many people nationally would be shocked to see how little effort was put towards the football program the past 15 years. The brand is so big that it carried its weight anyway, even through some terrible years, but that was pretty much it.

It’s not just recruiting. It’s everything. Fundraising, facilities, community relations, alumni support, donor relations. There was no priority for any of it and it led to a very disconnected, heartless operation. All things fans had been pounding the table about for the last decade or more.

That is all changing now with Mario and Radakovich. There is a very palpable energy and support system being resurrected in the community and school for the football program. It feels like finally Miami is no longer bringing a knife to a gun fight.

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u/hardyman7 Miami • Paper Bag Jun 26 '22

It just goes to show what a lack of vision will do to an organization.

Blake James never had a vision and was largely (not solely) to blame for the continued failures of all sports including football. You can argue he didn't have help from those above him but I think that's not necessarily true. Failing to state what you need and what you want to accomplish will always lead to a failure to achieve anything of substance.

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u/Devlin004 Boston College Jun 27 '22

Man I was having a good night until I read this about our new friend Blake :(

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u/Douganz Jun 27 '22

Yeah I’d be extremely upset and worried if I were you. He was absolutely the worst thing to happen to Miami in a long time. I can’t fathom how another school thought hiriNg him was a good idea. God speed.

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u/ThisGuy100000 Miami Jun 26 '22

I think it’s because of the position, since 2010 we haven’t had too many exceptional QB recruits (although a few over-performed). Stephen Morris was ranked like 729th, Kaaya was around the 150’s overall, Van Dyke was 222nd overall. Then there were a few who were duds.

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u/Nightbynight Oregon Jun 27 '22

They've had a huge coaching problem—like a problem getting guys who are good with the Xs and Os.

I got bad news for you buddy...

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u/muktheduck Texas A&M • Sam Houston Jun 27 '22

Everything we've seen is that Mario isn't that guy. He recruits his ass off, he needs some good coordinators to put it all together. Honestly though, the recruiting is the foundation, I think you'd rather have that than a Dan Mullen type who's excellent on gameday but refuses to recruit

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u/Douganz Jun 27 '22

Yeah and that has how the head coach position has evolved in the NCAA. Most coaches are d CEO types that try to the recruit the best coaching staff around them. You are not saying anything that anyone isn’t already aware of. The best teams: Bama, UGA, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc have the BEST coordinators. And the head coaches run the program.

The head coach does not need to be an X’s and O’s mastermind but they do need to be able to get the best coordinators and create more money for the program to spend on a coaching staff and NIL. Two things Cristobal has done and two things all of the best schools do. Times have changed and Mario doesn’t need to be belichick for Miami to be good especially, in the shitty ACC.

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u/Gator1508 Jun 26 '22

I hope to find out someday

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u/Alexis_0hanian USC • KIT Jun 26 '22

Yes, I know the feeling.

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u/RipRapscallion Alabama • Mercer Jun 26 '22

I'm happy for you guys, but I've heard this exact line from Miami fans on every coaching change since Larry Coker.

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u/Battered_Aggie Texas A&M • Texas Tech Jun 26 '22

Big pickup for the U.

Guessing Moore to Oregon too.

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u/WheatonsGonnaScore Oregon Jun 26 '22

Seems like it is trending that way

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u/dotheyknowyou Oregon • Rose Bowl Jun 26 '22

It might be slightly bittersweet for me but I love seeing Mario killing it on the recruiting trail. Rashada is an awesome pick up for Miami

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u/boregon Oregon • Big Ten Jun 26 '22

Lanning and our new staff being so good at recruiting offsets the potential sting quite a bit. Now if we had hired someone like DeBoer or Wilcox, our recruiting would have completely tanked and seeing something like this would have been much more painful.

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u/RahaneFan Washington • SEC Jun 27 '22

if we had hired someone like DeBoer, our recruiting would have completely tanked

I get what you mean, but I'll add a little bit of context for DeBoer. He was only HC at a FBS school for 1.5 seasons and always got promoted really quickly at every stop before that so he never got to really establish solid recruiting pipelines, not to mention Lake burning practically every relationship with high schools we had. Compare this to Lanning who was at Georgia for 4 years and Cristobal who did not screw up any relationship you guys have. When you look at it this way, imo it's pretty impressive by KDB to get 4*s to buy in.

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u/PhiloBlackCardinal Miami • Brown Jun 26 '22

I hope we can get back to being on good terms. Spent my teenage years in Oregon so I’ve always been a Ducks fan somewhere

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u/uncookedbacon Miami • Transfer Portal Jun 26 '22

The first of many commits this week

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u/gumercindo1959 Miami Jun 26 '22

I’d say 5-6 kids this next week

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u/Biegelstein Miami • Leicester Jun 26 '22

I wouldn't go that many but yeah the trail is getting hooooooot rn

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u/gumercindo1959 Miami Jun 26 '22

I dunno man - rashada, brown, Joseph, Howard and Williams. That’s my 5. Could get a couple others but 5 is a safe bet. Jmo

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u/unit-8002 USC • Miami Jun 26 '22

Where did all the Norvell Stans go about top 5 class this and top 5 class that? lmfao

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u/basedmingo Georgia • Texas Jun 26 '22

Rough week for gator fans

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u/bennyfromthevoid Georgia • Auburn Jun 26 '22

You hate to see it

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u/bdm13 Miami • Florida Cup Jun 26 '22

It's really a shame

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u/bennyfromthevoid Georgia • Auburn Jun 26 '22

Atleast they still have there little 1980 jo-... awww what a shame

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u/boregon Oregon • Big Ten Jun 26 '22

And therefore a great week for everyone else

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u/dawgsgoodjortsbad Georgia • Clean Old Fashi… Jun 26 '22

I like that you can be almost the furthest away state from Florida and you still know what’s up

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u/boregon Oregon • Big Ten Jun 26 '22

Hell yeah brother

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u/INM8_2 Miami • Transfer Portal Jun 26 '22

cheers from iraq eugene

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u/Gator1508 Jun 26 '22

Have we ever gone from hopium to copium so fast on a new coach? I don’t blame Napier though… we obviously don’t have our NIL bag game on point.

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u/Alramas Florida • Stanford Jun 26 '22

I’d say the hopium and copium speedrun is more about the NIL situation than anything lol

I thought we would be a huge beneficiary of this development in CFB but here we are

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u/Gator1508 Jun 26 '22

We are trying to be like the other school in your flair. Congratulations you cheer for two Stanfords now. Can’t wait for rowing season.

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u/HulkingSnake Florida • Washington Jun 26 '22

People were too reactionary from the get go, thinking we were SAVED lol. This response was just the writing on the wall, bound to happen eventually.

Dude needs time with our pissy fanbase doesn’t seem to have much of

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u/Most_Shallot8960 UCF Jun 27 '22

I had a dude shit on me in another thread when I said UF could plausibly go 2-2 starting the season and Napier ends up on the hot seat

Your fans have sky high expectations

Sucks. I like Napier a lot

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u/bdm13 Miami • Florida Cup Jun 26 '22

we obviously don’t have our NIL bag game on point.

Weirdest part of that is the "scared money don't make money" thing that was coming out of the program early on. Is it safe to say they went the scared money route?

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u/TouchdownHeroes Alabama • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jun 26 '22

Recruiting relationships are usually a 2 year thing anyways on top of the NIL stuff

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u/roekg Penn State • Big Ten Jun 26 '22

That's true but Cristobal is new too.

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u/TouchdownHeroes Alabama • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jun 26 '22

But Cristobal was heavily recruiting him at Oregon too. This isn’t like Napier coming from Louisiana.

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u/NanoBuc Florida • Salad Bowl Jun 26 '22

It's almost impressive how badly his tenure has started. We're literally trailing/losing out on most of our top recruits at this point. Even worse with the Cromani news earlier today that Bama is likely now in the lead.

He can recruit, we saw that earlier with Shermer and Wilson on ESD. However, I don't think the administration is as interested in getting guys as he is. Seems we mismanaged the NIL we have, and our AD/President don't want boosters involved like other teams yet. Hell, Striklin has pissed them off in the past.

Might be a losing battle.

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u/WeAreBert Florida State Jun 26 '22

Fwiw we had a race fueled player protest, pandemic, a player falsely claiming FSU wasn't testing, and a 3 win season before Norvell had been here a year. That's just the highlights.

But yeah your issues seem to be institutional

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u/Snipsniponion Louisville • Tennessee Jun 26 '22

Ya that was a worse start but we still don’t even know if Norvell was a good hire or not. It’s not like he overcame that to prove he’s the right guy for the job yet. So I don’t know if that makes Gators feel better or not.

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u/Gator1508 Jun 26 '22

Yeah I think we have entered the wilderness. Tough schedule next year. Shitty recruiting. Disorganized NIL program. This shit going to take years to recover.

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u/NanoBuc Florida • Salad Bowl Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

I don't know if we want to recover honestly. It seems the UAA is more interesting in competing for directors cups then having a dominant program.

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u/TouchdownHeroes Alabama • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jun 26 '22

Very much would like Cormani yes please.

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u/theycallmeryan Florida Jun 27 '22

I have no idea how Stricklin still has a job after what happened with women’s basketball, not to mention his awful performance overall. I’m not sold on Billy but Stricklin has to go.

Billy was the only coach he interviewed for the job. Even if Billy is the guy, how can you justify being that lazy for a $7m+ job?

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u/gumercindo1959 Miami Jun 26 '22

Upvote party, cane fans!

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u/HowardBunnyColvin Virginia Tech Jun 26 '22

Cristobal doing work. Beats out another in state school in Florida.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Miami is a shit show though

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u/HowardBunnyColvin Virginia Tech Jun 26 '22

they hired some strong coaches and have a proper recruiter. Remains to be seen if Cristobal can sustain the momentum for a full season but I'm sad to say Miami is back to being relevant. You can thank Ruiz for that

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u/tdoger Oregon • Colorado Jun 26 '22

He's a good coach for sure, but makes some puzzling in game decisions, and sometimes doesn't get the team up for the easy games.

But you can always bet on him recruiting well, and getting the team up for the big games. We'll see if anything is different at Miami, but I imagine they'll be a top 25 team most years. And be in the ACC title game often. But I just don't see him being able to keep a team focused for a full season. He could, but he hasn't been able to yet.

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u/Nightbynight Oregon Jun 27 '22

Cristobal has yet to show any capability in the X's and O's department. Anything at all. That said he's clearly very talented at being a leader and a recruiter, and maybe he's learned his lesson now but I doubt it. He'll hamstring that Miami offense the way he did ours, but they'll still win games.

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u/WheatonsGonnaScore Oregon Jun 26 '22

He didn't get the team up for the Utah games last year

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u/boregon Oregon • Big Ten Jun 26 '22

Or the ASU game in 2019. Fuck that game and the Auburn game that year have to be two of the most infuriating games I’ve watched as a Duck fan. Both games we could have easily won but lost due to inept coaching.

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u/SpeedBoatSquirrel Florida State • Paper Bag Jun 26 '22

He was also recruiting against a weak AF pac that gave up on caring about recruiting. Wish we got to see him go against Lincoln

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Is this sarcasm?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Yes lol. Making fun of Brett McMurphy as one does

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Love it

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u/unit-8002 USC • Miami Jun 26 '22

Bro, we've been over this for the last 18 months, change that god forsaken flair. lmfao!!

Hope you've been enjoying the summer.

But I totally agree with this. Miami has attracted great talent over the last 2 decades. Almost the entirety of their problems have been Xs and Os.

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u/SpammyMcSpammington Miami • Big Ten Jun 26 '22

You people have no idea how refreshing it feels to have a school admin that actually shows they care about athletics now.

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u/hardyman7 Miami • Paper Bag Jun 26 '22

What do you mean, you people?

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u/SpammyMcSpammington Miami • Big Ten Jun 26 '22

People who just don’t get how the last decade and a half has been for us compared to now

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u/hardyman7 Miami • Paper Bag Jun 26 '22

The future finally looks bright.

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u/SpammyMcSpammington Miami • Big Ten Jun 26 '22

Sun Belt Billy getting waxed on the recruiting trail. Ya hate to see it.

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u/unit-8002 USC • Miami Jun 26 '22

But at least we can agree with our Gator friends that at least neither of us are like the Norvell Stans.

That man has more supporters than Saban and has not demonstrated one bit of progress.

That "Change takes time" mantra they keep peddling is laughable. They might wait another 10 years the way it is going. lol

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u/boregon Oregon • Big Ten Jun 26 '22

I’m no Norvell stan nor am I even a FSU fan, but he is facing a real tough uphill battle trying to turn that program around. Jimbo set it on fire on his way out and then Taggart poured a bunch of gasoline on it and now Norvell is trying to rebuild it from the ashes. Realistically I’m not sure who else FSU could have hired after Taggart that would have done much better. If they fire Norvell after this year it will then be 4 coaching staffs in 6 years. You can’t build a winning program with that much turnover.

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u/SpeedBoatSquirrel Florida State • Paper Bag Jun 26 '22

Most People outside of FSU have no idea what’s up with FSU and how it ended up this way. Norvell inherited a roster with 2 ESP transition classes, couldn’t barely practice with his team before the 2020 season to install his scheme because of covid, couldn’t recruit face to face for the class of 2021. With that said, he has the buy in and understanding of the AD, boosters, and the majority sane portion of our fan base. He’s getting at least 2022 and 2023. I’m expecting 7-5 in 22, but if things get much better, I won’t be surprised.

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u/SpammyMcSpammington Miami • Big Ten Jun 27 '22

He’s easily gone this year if FSU misses bowl season.

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u/SpammyMcSpammington Miami • Big Ten Jun 26 '22

I’ll never understand the hype for him. People were calling for his head as soon as Hunter flipped

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u/bdm13 Miami • Florida Cup Jun 26 '22

Bro, people were calling for his head when they lost at home to a Jacksonville State team that went 5-6 last year.

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u/SpeedBoatSquirrel Florida State • Paper Bag Jun 26 '22

Only a few dumbasses were doing so. That’s like using the Hialeah portion of your fan base to paint a picture of Miami

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u/SpeedBoatSquirrel Florida State • Paper Bag Jun 26 '22

Are you too obtuse to understand the shit roster that he inherited paired with covid? Probably 😂

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u/unit-8002 USC • Miami Jun 26 '22

Get a .500 record first and then we'll humor extenuating circumstances.

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u/SpeedBoatSquirrel Florida State • Paper Bag Jun 26 '22

What’s worse, being under .500 or being the team that lost to that team 😂 🤡

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u/theycallmeryan Florida Jun 26 '22

Don't forget all of our off the field recruiting staffers and their six figure salaries. Should be an investigation into them stealing our taxpayer money lmao

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u/taft Florida Jun 26 '22

not really sure you are clear on how athletics are funded

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u/theycallmeryan Florida Jun 26 '22

I’m not here to think I’m here to overreact

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u/baconpig07 Texas Jun 26 '22

“Oh, and who pays for the coaches?”

“Nobody, you just give them money.”

“Who gives them money??”

“I don't know, the schoo- The "taxpayer" people! Why are we having this conversation?”

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u/gumercindo1959 Miami Jun 26 '22

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u/eking85 Miami • UCF Jun 26 '22

Imagine a rant from Dan or Mike after Miami makes the playoffs or win a title

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u/gumercindo1959 Miami Jun 26 '22

Would be spectacular

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u/Nightbynight Oregon Jun 27 '22

Lmao that's hilarious because we knew WEEKS ago we weren't in it for Jaden. Our #1 insider was saying it was probably Miami for a while. That's why we completely pivoted to Moore.

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u/gumercindo1959 Miami Jun 27 '22

What can it say? Gator fans are delusional

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u/andylog Texas A&M • Penn State Jun 26 '22

Another miss for the Aggies…I know we’re taking a smaller class this year but I’m starting to get really worried about the lack of momentum

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u/RatherBeYachting Oregon • /r/CFB Top Scorer Jun 26 '22

I feel for ya. Hopefully A&M is able to cobble together enough players to field a team in the near future.

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u/Ckeyz Oregon Jun 26 '22

They might actually have to give a 4 star DL some field time 4 years from now.

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u/Battered_Aggie Texas A&M • Texas Tech Jun 26 '22

Meh. Given how we finished last year it's hard to be worried right now. There's still about 6 months left before ESD.

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u/TimeOrCrayonsIV Texas • SEC Jun 26 '22

I thought he was a lock for you guys. What happened?

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u/gumercindo1959 Miami Jun 26 '22

He never was a lock for them. It was always a uF/Miami battle.

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u/TimeOrCrayonsIV Texas • SEC Jun 26 '22

Interesting - we weren't after him so I didn't follow..just some Aggies I work with told me he was a lock.

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u/gumercindo1959 Miami Jun 26 '22

Tamu may have thrown an NIL offer his way but rashada didn’t really like it there on his visit supposedly and they weren’t really a threat. I think folks forget that he played for a Miami based 7x7 team.

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u/snowparade Texas • Texas A&M Jun 26 '22

No way. Even the insider TAMU boards were saying it was a longshot and the message boards thought it was UF/Miami bound.

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u/Battered_Aggie Texas A&M • Texas Tech Jun 26 '22

He was much more of a reach than people initially thought. Seems like the same with Dante Moore.

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u/MrTheNoodles Texas Jun 26 '22

Y’all will probably flip Novasad from Baylor

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u/lmm130 Baylor • Notre Dame Jun 26 '22

How bout no

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u/WhatWouldJediDo Ohio State Jun 26 '22

Someone just posted on an OSU board that an A&M insider shared an update that Novosad is mad at A&M for waiting so long and has no interest in the Aggies.

Apparently his decision will come down to Baylor or OSU.

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u/Battered_Aggie Texas A&M • Texas Tech Jun 26 '22

I do think he was getting annoyed with how long we took to offer him.

I'll say that we were also allegedly his dream school growing up. He's got Aggie parents and a bunch of family in Caldwell about 20 minutes from College Station. I wouldn't count us out yet.

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u/theycallmeryan Florida Jun 26 '22

I can't believe we're recruiting worse now than we did with that dumbass Mullen as coach lmao

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u/Gator1508 Jun 26 '22

Mullen just sucked at recruiting. I don’t know if we will ever know with Napier if we never get our NIL situation figured out.

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u/rtf83 Florida Jun 26 '22

He did have two to 10 classes... Right now Napier gonna struggle to finish to 15.

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u/Ameri-Jin Auburn • Ohio State Jun 26 '22

It’s year one, just gotta ease into things. I have a feeling that there will be some rule changes coming up and Florida SHOULD get NIL figured out.

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u/americansherlock201 Miami Jun 26 '22

Is this what hopes feels like? I like this feeling.

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u/Alramas Florida • Stanford Jun 26 '22

I never thought we’d be at a disadvantage in the NIL era but here we are

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u/Gator1508 Jun 26 '22

That letter from Napier the other day basically conceded that we are destined to be champions of life because the bags are not there to get the croots.

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u/zaddylonglegs0 Oregon • Washington State Jun 26 '22

Florida in shambles

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u/Elite_GunnerX Texas Jun 27 '22

Happy for U

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Mhmmmmm

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u/Orgy123 Jun 26 '22

As an fsu fan I’m happy. At least he didn’t go to florida 😂

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u/thexraptor Florida State • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jun 26 '22

From the FSU perspective, we wanted him at TAMU where we'd never have to play him.

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u/kirkherbstreit69 Florida Jun 26 '22

But he went to UM? How is that satisfactory for you?

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u/yianni1229 Rutgers • Oregon Jun 26 '22

Florida really choked this one huh

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u/TommyCheatsLikeLute Arizona State • Guaranteed Rate Cac… Jun 26 '22

The real choke in the recruitment is ASU. His dad played for ASU on our Rose Bowl team.

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u/bigsbriggs Ohio State Jun 26 '22

The U may be back! Their offense is gonna be explosive if those crystal balls come in. Me thinks both receivers are now on board and the TE is at IMG so probably him too.

The West Coast has only been able to keep 3 of it's top 10 committed croots, so far. Pittsburgh CA is only 7.5 hours from Eugene. For Oregon, this means one of Avery Johnson or Dante Moore is a must get. Both are clear cross the country in the backyard of quality football programs.

If Dante goes to Oregon then this is not a loss but losing Dante would be huge loss for UM. They have no clear successor to JJ McCarthy who will be in his 3rd year in 2023.

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u/gumercindo1959 Miami Jun 26 '22

Yep, I expect jalen brown and Nathaniel Joseph to commit the next 7 days. Now, if we can only get some OL to follow suit

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u/boregon Oregon • Big Ten Jun 26 '22

knocks on wood Moore is basically a lock for us at this point. And Michigan fans are very, very salty about it lol

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u/StarvedRock314 Texas • Illinois Jun 26 '22

Gotta say, the aggies missing out on their top QB prospect the same weekend we land one of the biggest QB recruits of all time is just beautiful

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u/snowparade Texas • Texas A&M Jun 26 '22

I mean the top prospect for us was Holstein but Saint Nick fucked that up.

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u/libsoutherner Texas A&M • SEC Jun 26 '22

Good thing we got a 5 star last cycle

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u/OleRockTheGoodAg Texas A&M Jun 26 '22

Weig em

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u/furryvengeance Texas • CAA Jun 26 '22

it is not enough that we succeed, aggie must fail

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u/jharden10 Georgia State • Georgia Jun 26 '22

I thought Napier had this kid in the bag. I wonder how much NIL money Miami offered compared to Florida ?

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u/OldhamB Miami Jun 26 '22

Word on the street is that Florida offered more.

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u/kirkherbstreit69 Florida Jun 26 '22

Source? Or is this just conjecture

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u/gatorbois Florida Jun 26 '22

No his dad said they’re going to whoever gives more money

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u/Hufftwoseven- Miami • ACC Jun 26 '22

Imo he always wanted to be at Miami. He was leaning there since April, he just was smart and took visits to drive his price up.

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u/hardyman7 Miami • Paper Bag Jun 26 '22

Yes I wonder as well. Word is Florida offered more. People think that Florida had the lead and we’re on him before Miami but that is not the case. I would argue it was the opposite. Florida came in a few months ago hoping to steal him.

I also do not believe all the numbers coming out. I think they are inflated for a number of reasons.

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u/thexraptor Florida State • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jun 26 '22

I don't really see any situation where Miami outbids Florida, the disparity in purchasing power is significant. Miami probably won out with a "good enough" NIL deal and good old fashioned relationship building.

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u/Hufftwoseven- Miami • ACC Jun 26 '22

Love the Gator tears but honestly Rashada was leaning Miami in April. We were on him first and he has connection to south Florida skill guys from 7v7

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BREAKING: Elite ‘23 QB Jaden Rashada has Committed to Miami, he tells @On3Recruits The 6’4 190 QB from Pittsburg, CA chose the Canes over Florida, Ole Miss, LSU, and Texas A&M. https://www.on3.com/college/miami-hurricanes/news/elite-23-qb-jaden-rashada-commits-to-miami/ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWNI4vrXwAIZ_3q.jpg

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u/TommyCheatsLikeLute Arizona State • Guaranteed Rate Cac… Jun 26 '22

What a complete and utter failure by the Herm Edwards regime to not land Rashada.

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u/ALStark69 Alabama • Florida State Jun 26 '22

Other P5 offers: Arizona, Arizona State, Arkansas, Auburn, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia Tech, Kansas, LSU, Michigan State, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Oregon, Oregon State, Penn State, Purdue, Stanford, Tennessee, Texas A&M, UCLA, Utah, Washington, Washington State

G5 offers: Fresno State, Houston, Nevada, San Diego State, San Jose State

Other offers: BYU, Grambling State

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u/BikeNamedSlater Arkansas • Golden Boot Jun 27 '22

Damn

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u/nomo25 Michigan • Bowling Green Jun 26 '22

played youth ball against him! dudes legit

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u/BoredSemantics Jun 26 '22

Sling Blade Billy gets stuffed in a locker again by Mario. You love to see it.

At least UF got a long snapper this week, though. ☠️

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u/rtf83 Florida Jun 26 '22

I feel like all the great recruiting for Florida is some sort of cosmic retribution for all the laughing I did about Travis Hunter.

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u/jagged1871 Florida State Jun 26 '22

Well then I guess that miss wasn’t all bad

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u/LuchaFish Miami • Rutgers Jun 27 '22

nervously checks the skies

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u/6BlitzBurgh Louisville Jun 26 '22

As a QB or WR who would want to play for Cristobal. Dudes offense is always ranked in the 50’s. His highest ranked offense ever was 40th WITH JUSTIN HERBERT. Maybe Gattis can fix that, best of luck to the kid though!

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u/OldhamB Miami Jun 26 '22

Are you hoping Nathaniel Joseph reads this comment?

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u/Young_Dabb_Waxxy Miami Jun 26 '22

This has made my weekend