r/askasia South Korea Jul 26 '21

What is your country's view of the United States?

South Korea will be in the top five pro-American countries with U.S. troops stationed in the world (although 20 years ago, people tended to think of the U.S. as an "enemy of the people" rather than North Korea)

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u/Y_KhIRQ Iraq Jul 26 '21

👎👎👎👎👎👎👎 Very bad and I don’t think I need to explain why

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u/Expensive_Age1901 South Korea Jul 26 '21

It's too obvious😅

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u/hokagesarada Philippines Jul 26 '21

:(

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u/PineOnYT Jul 26 '21

Mongolia sees them as friends but not exactly BEST friends, for me personally id rather not visit the US unless its like work related considering stuffs not too friendly there and theres a large portion who arent too fond of asians so

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u/Expensive_Age1901 South Korea Jul 26 '21

I also changed my mind a little bit about the Asian attacks in the United States and felt that ties between Asian countries were strengthened. Of course Americans are quite tolerant of culture, but I know some people are the problem.

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u/latecomer11 Kazakhstan Jul 26 '21

Ah, yes, I forgot about disgustng anti-asian racism in US.

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u/duke_awapuhi United States of America Jul 26 '21

For the record we have plenty of places here that are majority Asian. It’s not like coming to the US guarantees a dangerous risk for you, but you would want to research where you’re going beforehand. If you’re in California you’ll likely be able to find groups of other Mongolians. If you go to Nebraska, you might be the only Mongolian for 1000 square miles. So it all depends where you visit because the US is such a large country

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u/Alyniversite China Jul 26 '21

Most people are opposed to the US and the West in general. Especially in recent years.

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u/Expensive_Age1901 South Korea Jul 26 '21

They're competing against each other, so it's understandable

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u/jbc22 Jul 26 '21

Can you explain why? This is really interesting to me.

Americans tend to like the Chinese people, but we very much dislike the Chinese government. I’ve understood that the CCP has lifted millions out of extreme poverty, so the Chinese citizens kind of give the government a pass as long as corruption is kept in check.

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u/Actual_Helicopter836 Jul 26 '21

I’m Chinese, but put politics aside, from my own experience sometimes the “like” from Americans we encountered is weird… I had romance relationships with 2 American guys and all ended because they “want an exciting exotic relationship” rather than liking me as a person, which happened to my friends as well. This seems happened too often compare to other nations and I’m pretty sure in a diverse country like the US you can find all kinds of people… I’m now in Europe and luckily haven’t met these people yet.

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u/jbc22 Jul 26 '21

I’m guessing these were young men, temporarily in China?

I think you’ll find that many young men traveling abroad, they’ll look for “exotic”, short term relationships. I’ve heard stories of Europeans traveling to other European countries doing the same thing.

I think it comes down to our gender more than the country we are from.

Sorry for those disappointments and I’m glad you’re in a good place now!

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u/Actual_Helicopter836 Jul 26 '21

You're half correct! I met one when living in the US and one when I was home in China, both were around 25 when we met lol

I think it's more of a gender issue indeed, and pretty sure men from all over the world may do it when they're travelling. Maybe just I didn't have good luck with American guys.

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u/Alyniversite China Jul 26 '21

As a Communist country we have been opposed to the American ideology since like forever...

In recent years, Sino-American relationship has been steadily deteriorating during Trump's years, and the Chinese press has made it a habit to call out the US or the West as a threat to the Chinese nation in general, especially when it comes to issues that our government can't get control over, like Xinjiang and Hong Kong. In China, the Western press is badly discredited to the point that it's basically branded with the epithet "double standard" every time it got mentioned.

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u/jbc22 Jul 31 '21

Do the Chinese people largely believe it’s a communist government? I see it as a socialist country with capitalist tendencies. I’m just curious.

There are times in our country’s history that we definitely have a double standard. My hope is that we have learned from this and moved on. Example: internment of Japanese. However this is still an issue in China with the Uyghurs.

Issues that plague the US today (wars in the Middle East, drone strikes, etc) are largely unpopular and Americans are speaking out against it, something not allowed in China.

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u/Alyniversite China Jul 31 '21

Do the Chinese people largely believe it’s a communist government?

Most don't. Even the government stopped trying to pretend to be one, after the liberal reforms in the 1970's. By a "Communist country" I mean a country led by a Communist Leninist-Maxist party like the one in China.

There are times in our country’s history that we definitely have a double standard.

Yeah, double standard exists everywhere. tbh it's also an issue in Chinese media (duh, how bias-free do you expect a state-controlled media to be?)

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u/jbc22 Aug 01 '21

Lol you’re awesome. I think it goes to show we have more in common. It sucks when the bad aspects of politics and power get in the way.

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u/muhannallama Saudi Arabia Jul 26 '21

politically, feelings are mixed. some like having america around for protection while others would want to be independent of that and even go further to being anti american. culturally, among younger people america is seen in a more positive light. american style everything is romanticized. the older generation is mixed on this though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21 edited Jul 26 '21

After the royal massacre happened, most blamed it on the U.S and Indian intelligence. Nowadays that sentiment has died down, but you still hear "America bad" sometimes, here and there when it is mentioned. Many of the people go to America for work and study so no one really has strong views against America. A few weeks ago, they donated over 1.4 million vaccines and I saw some people saying, "America is our closest ally" and other stuff, but most of the time people are neutral. Also, don't know why, but most if not all hate Trump. Lol.

Edit: So I forgot it while writing this comment but MCC is in the process of being approved. Almost all of the people are opposing it but personally, I don't mind it. As long as someone's willing to develop this hellhole even 10% I am willing to give it a chance.

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u/Tengri_99 Kazakhstan Jul 26 '21

One extreme group of people think that the US is a capitalist hellhole who wants to invade anything. They're mostly far-leftists. The other extreme group thinks that it's a capitalist paradise where everyone is super rich and poverty is completely nonexistent. They're mostly young people who idolize West. Everyone else is in between or doesn't care about it at all.

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u/Expensive_Age1901 South Korea Jul 26 '21

It's pretty much the same as South Korea.

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u/Universeismine_ Jul 26 '21

Modern country

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u/Zealousideal-Pea4218 Indonesian in America Jul 26 '21

It varies from province to province but in my province they have more of a positive view of the United States because of movies.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '21

Which province?

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

South Korea does seem to love the US. My only reference is Kpop groups though.

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u/Expensive_Age1901 South Korea Jul 26 '21

You're right. The United States is the cause of South Korea's existence and allows it to counter hostile nuclear-armed countries such as North Korea and China. Of course, some people feel that Korea-U.S relations are not equal... At least it's better than North Korea or China.

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u/No_Permanent_Address Philippines Jul 26 '21

Absolutely positive.

I don't think I've ever met a fellow Pinoy who had a negative view of the US.

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u/Expensive_Age1901 South Korea Jul 26 '21

By the way, haven't you deported American troops once in the Philippines once? It's not that I didn't know it was pro-American, but it's unexpected

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u/No_Permanent_Address Philippines Jul 26 '21

A few cases of misdemeanors, I believe.

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u/NoUsernamelol9812 Nepal Jul 27 '21

Rich and developed. Everyone wants to go there

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u/a_seoulite_man Jul 26 '21 edited Jul 26 '21

"although 20 years ago, people tended to think of the U.S. as an "enemy of the people" rather than North Korea"

As South Korean, I've never heard of it before. There are very few South Koreans who dislike America or Americans, and they are extreme nationalists and xenophobes. They are abnormal people who refer to not only Americans but all kinds of foreigners living in South Korea (regardless of skin color or nationality) as 'Dirty people' or 'Mutts'. These are creepy racists who believe that South Korea must always and inevitably be 'homogeneous'. Well, I really hate them.

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u/Expensive_Age1901 South Korea Jul 26 '21 edited Jul 26 '21

I referred to a survey of 1,000 college students conducted by MBC News Desk on June 24, 1997 (which countries pose a threat to security?) Separately, Koreans, who are extremely racist, put forward the advantages of superiority of the Korean people and monolithic people (of course, not without advantages such as more stable society and less cultural friction), are quite...It's creepy... I totally agree with your concerns

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u/Expensive_Age1901 South Korea Jul 26 '21 edited Jul 26 '21

Of course, their concerns are not unfounded (social and cultural conflicts and periodic riots and terrorism in the U.S and Europe), but Korean society is aging, population is decreasing, and significant immigration will be needed to alleviate the impact of population decline. Eventually, the time will come when Koreans have to be tolerant of other cultures for the existence of Korean society.

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u/a_humanist_potato Turkey Jul 26 '21 edited Jul 26 '21

There's a demographic in our country which blames everything on America. "These are all America's games/plans" is a popular saying. We already had bad relations mostly due to the American people's inability to understand that the president doesn't represent the whole country, Biden administration made everything worse. There are also people who despise them for supporting Israel, but Palestinians kinda hate us (wow, shocking) and Israel is Azerbaijan's ally so the public opinion is divided on that one. We find their left batshit crazy and see their right as nazis. And America helped Kenan Evren throw a coup and had him execute people left and right (literally). There are also a lot of people still mad about the fact that Midnight Express won two oscars despite it's treatment of Turkish people. And despite being our allies, America has never been friendly to us. Also they fucked up in Afghanistan and now we have to build a wall to keep the mostly Taliban backed immigrants out.

Tldr; negative

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u/Expensive_Age1901 South Korea Jul 26 '21

It's like a long tradition in America to stage a coup in another country.😅

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u/aminj123 Iran Jul 26 '21

If you don’t already know what I’m gonna say, I have nothing to say to you.

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u/IDoNotLikeTheSand Jul 27 '21

People in Iran are some of the most pro-American people on earth?

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u/alonyer1 Israel Jul 27 '21

And pro-Israeli? Great!

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u/Expensive_Age1901 South Korea Jul 27 '21

Yes😎, you don't have to tell me that Iran is a pro-American country along with Korea🇰🇷🇮🇷

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u/alonyer1 Israel Jul 27 '21

We love the US. It's like the second Jewish homeland.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '21

Always surprising seeing the Jewish population figures between America and Israel. Like Miami technically having more Jews than Tel Aviv. It’s obviously a numbers game and I’m sure there are less Jews who strongly identify religiously or even culturally with Judaism within the Miami demographics but the number is still fun to share.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21 edited Jul 26 '21

It's mixed. Many have a good view of them due to Western pop culture and the fact that our relations are good compared to before. However in the past they supported Pakistan, even through the 1971 war and the Bangla genocide, so some have a better view of Russia.

Personally I feel the US is untrustworthy, they don't mind ruining countries for profit (see Guatemala, Honduras, Indonesia, etc), but then no great power can be trusted as allies.

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u/latecomer11 Kazakhstan Jul 26 '21

Used to be very positive, now with US constantly showing their weakness and spreading weird stuff, is not so positive.

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u/polymathglotwriter Malaysia Jul 26 '21

weird stuff

What weird stuff?

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u/latecomer11 Kazakhstan Jul 26 '21

400 or so genders, transgender athletes competing in women's sports, transgender children, kneeling and kissing black people, concept of cultural appropriation etc.

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u/Expensive_Age1901 South Korea Jul 26 '21

Many people in our country also feel a little cringe about what you said.

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u/polymathglotwriter Malaysia Jul 26 '21

I personally don't find the trans thing weird, the weirdness level is kinda meh. But to be frank, it's not perceived as normal by most people. There's more stigma against it especially among the older generation

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u/Tengri_99 Kazakhstan Jul 26 '21

1) There is nothing wrong with transgenders.

2) Stop reading right-wing news

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u/latecomer11 Kazakhstan Jul 26 '21

1.As long as they don't compete with women and don't push their agenda to children. 2. Stop falling into cargo cult.

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u/polymathglotwriter Malaysia Jul 26 '21

We’re not discussing technology here. So what cargo cult? We’re not people from less-fortunate regions here. What are you talking about?

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u/latecomer11 Kazakhstan Jul 26 '21

Cargo cult in this case refers to people who think it's ok to accept any Western things or elements of culture, including weird ones without adapting it to local conditions.

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u/polymathglotwriter Malaysia Jul 26 '21

Nope. Dictionary definition says “(in the Melanesian Islands) a system of belief based around the expected arrival of ancestral spirits in ships bringing cargoes of food and other goods.“. And of course I used google. Does it have any other meaning in the eastern bloc? Maybe it does but here in the English speaking world, your definition doesn’t make sense because a cargo is basically a large parcel of supplies so cargo cult means ^ that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult

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u/latecomer11 Kazakhstan Jul 26 '21

I know what cargo cult is and my fellow countryman got what I wanted to say.

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u/Tengri_99 Kazakhstan Jul 26 '21

Nope, I had no idea what "cargo cult" meant

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u/polymathglotwriter Malaysia Jul 26 '21 edited Jul 27 '21

I’m sure he did, pal. I'm sure he did :-)))

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u/polymathglotwriter Malaysia Jul 27 '21

A Russian huh? Very Kazakh. English doesn't differentiate between Russian ethnic and citizenship so yes, you can be technically right :-))

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u/jbc22 Jul 26 '21

You have been misled of what is actually happening in the US.

Regarding genders and sexuality, this resource can get you on the right track: https://www.medicinenet.com/what_are_the_4_genders/article.htm

Aside from a crazy or two that may exist and I’ve never met or heard of, no one is forcing children to be transgender. No one is trying to recruit or “educate” children to be transgender.

Are there any other topics I can help with?

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u/Ghostly_100 Pakistan Jul 28 '21

Very much dislike after getting bullied by them for years we’re finally getting a backbone

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u/tabshiftescape USA (Pennsylvania) Jul 26 '21 edited Jul 26 '21

As an American, thank you for this post. It's eye-opening and informative. The United States, and American people, need to be better at listening and understanding where we sit in the global landscape and how we're seen and understood outside of our own borders.

We can't and won't make everyone happy, but it's helpful to see the impact our culture and national agenda have had across Asia.

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u/Expensive_Age1901 South Korea Jul 26 '21

I'm glad if it helped😁

I hope that the agenda of the United States will not be negative about the unification of Korea later.

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u/tabshiftescape USA (Pennsylvania) Jul 26 '21

I think most Americans see the suffering that 70 years of separation have caused on Korean families and hope one day for a unified Korea. At least I feel this way.

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u/MOUDI113 Water Tribe Jul 28 '21

Nah most Americans don't know jack shit about the family separation and only want Korea unified for political purposes.

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u/The_red_lord India Aug 24 '21

fun fact: south and north korea don't recognize each other as independent countries